=========================================== #opendaylight-meeting: MD-SAL Interest Call =========================================== Meeting started by Sai_ at 15:58:21 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/md_sal_interest_call/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_interest_call.2016-09-20-15.58.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * - last-meeting-minutes (Sai_, 15:58:50) * LINK: - https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/md_sal_interest_call/opendaylight-meeting-md_sal_interest_call.2016-09-13-15.56.html (Sai_, 15:59:09) * - Agenda (Sai_, 16:00:51) * - Call for any topics to be added (Sai_, 16:02:37) * - Review Action items (Sai_, 16:02:47) * - Review the code change dashboards (Sai_, 16:02:56) * - Call for any topics to be added (Sai_, 16:03:16) * - AnHo adds topic " Branding MD-SAL call as kernel utils call " (Sai_, 16:04:02) * - colindixon / ryan / stephen +1 (Sai_, 16:05:06) * - Sai / Igor +1 (Sai_, 16:05:37) * AGREED: we will change the name to the kernel projects weekly call (colindixon, 16:05:50) * ACTION: - Ryan / colindixon / Sai_ to move wiki space for the new meeting "kernel projects weekly call" from existing MD_SAL weekly call (current link - https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/md_sal_interest_call) (Sai_, 16:07:18) * - Review Action items (Sai_, 16:07:31) * ACTION: - Stephen to update bugs 5955 / 5966 with information discussed ert or.json licensing (Sai_, 16:07:58) * ACTION: - TomP to release note "rapidly swapping candidate stuff" (Sai_, 16:08:08) * - Review dashboards (Sai_, 16:08:28) * - Alexis moving netconf to blueprint (Sai_, 16:10:17) * rgoulding asks if there's a plan to support YANG 1.1 in Carbon (colindixon, 16:12:05) * igor says there are plans to support part of YANG 1.1, but probably not all (colindixon, 16:12:30) * - Ryan offers support for yang 1.1 (Sai_, 16:12:51) * ACTION: martin to start a meeting arond YANG 1.1 and invite whoever else, there's also a topic for the DDF at the summit (colindixon, 16:13:57) * - unit test failures in ayngtools is quite often (Sai_, 16:14:51) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-September/008334.html (anipbu, 16:15:15) * - An says release note has these points noted. (Sai_, 16:15:29) * LINK: - https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-September/008334.html (Sai_, 16:15:38) * adetalhouet says that thre are sal-rest-docgen failing unit tests too (colindixon, 16:16:04) * does xsql work anymore? should we get rid of it? (colindixon, 16:17:01) * - Sharon isn't responding for Alexis, TomP suggests to comment the part of code and move forward. (Sai_, 16:18:04) * ACTION: adetalhouet to deprecate xsql so that we can kill it later (colindixon, 16:18:46) * - carbon_dev_forum (Sai_, 16:19:59) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Carbon_Dev_Forum look through the topics, add your name and/or new topics if you need them (colindixon, 16:20:10) * adetalhouet asks about fast and/or phased, colindixon says that unless rovarga or edwarnicke (or somebody new) starts to drive it again, he suspects it will peter out (colindixon, 16:22:02) * skitt says that he was never a strong believer in fast and/or phased (colindixon, 16:24:17) * there's something else, namely semantic versioning, that he is, but it's not clear how far we can get in carbon (colindixon, 16:24:38) * - colindixon says moving it to fixed version range would be an improvement. (Sai_, 16:25:44) * colindixon says that moving from a fixed version for everything to a fixed version range, and then make merges produce a new micro every time so that we *could* decouple merge from release (or not) as we see (colindixon, 16:27:47) * skitt adds that's closer to what he'd do, he'd also like to use the mvn release:release plugin to automate what we current do with autorelease, but one project at a time (colindixon, 16:28:35) * colindixon notes that we did it with hydrogen and we had issues, rovarga notes that it didn't work well with properties (colindixon, 16:29:49) * - colindixon points do we intend to do in carbon ? Move to version ranges / build releasing other than workflow may be componeents of it (Sai_, 16:31:24) * moving to karaf 4 would be part of this (colindixon, 16:32:52) * skitt notes the problem is mostly in process and people, which requires that things coalesce and you need pretty big sticks or carrots (colindixon, 16:35:30) * skitt is doubtful, given that, that it could be done in carbon (colindixon, 16:35:40) * ACTION: colindixon to send out a mail about what we might be able to experiment with in Carbon w.r.t. phased releases, e.g., semantic version (colindixon, 16:36:44) * - participants (Sai_, 16:37:25) * - Sai / Phil / Colin / Alexis / An / Igor / Martin / Ryan / Stephen / TomP / TOmas / Vaclav / Vratko (Sai_, 16:37:57) Meeting ended at 16:38:05 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * adetalhouet * adetalhouet to deprecate xsql so that we can kill it later * colindixon * - Ryan / colindixon / Sai_ to move wiki space for the new meeting "kernel projects weekly call" from existing MD_SAL weekly call (current link - https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/md_sal_interest_call) * colindixon to send out a mail about what we might be able to experiment with in Carbon w.r.t. phased releases, e.g., semantic version * Sai_ * - Ryan / colindixon / Sai_ to move wiki space for the new meeting "kernel projects weekly call" from existing MD_SAL weekly call (current link - https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/md_sal_interest_call) * **UNASSIGNED** * - Stephen to update bugs 5955 / 5966 with information discussed ert or.json licensing * - TomP to release note "rapidly swapping candidate stuff" * martin to start a meeting arond YANG 1.1 and invite whoever else, there's also a topic for the DDF at the summit People present (lines said) --------------------------- * Sai_ (37) * colindixon (24) * odl_meetbot (9) * rovarga (6) * adetalhouet (3) * anipbu (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4