17:03:14 <vishnoianil> #startmeeting tsc
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17:03:23 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
17:03:23 <vishnoianil> #info vishnoianil
17:03:25 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
17:03:26 <mohnish__> #info mohnish anumala
17:03:29 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
17:04:37 <ttkacik> #info ttkacik
17:04:49 <mohnish__> abhijit: where are you now?
17:04:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price
17:05:22 <rovarga> #info rovarga for jmedved
17:05:31 <abhijitkumbhare> I am in Pune mohnish__
17:05:50 <gkaempfer> #info gkaempfer
17:06:09 <vishnoianil> #topic agenda
17:06:11 <vishnoianil> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main
17:07:36 <vishnoianil> #info vishnoianil to talk about the additional questions in project creation template
17:08:05 <vishnoianil> #topic additional questions in project creation template
17:09:33 <abhijitkumbhare> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-June/005361.html
17:09:51 <rgoulding> #info rgoulding proxying for Colin Dixon
17:10:28 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 thinks adding the questions to clarify overlap in creation template is good, thinks vishnoianil's suggested questions are broadly good, suggests adding "we don't reject projects for overlap" reassurance
17:11:46 * ChrisPriceAB tries not to agree with Ed, but can't on this occasion... ;-)
17:12:38 <abhijitkumbhare> ChrisPriceAB: that sounds contradictory :)
17:13:36 <abhijitkumbhare> I guess you mean “but can't NOT AGREE on this occasion.” :)
17:13:39 <dfarrell07> #info edwarnicke, dfarrell07, vishnoianil and others don't think overlap would prevent project approval, vishnoianil clarifies that these questions are to document overlap, make that more clear, basically help describe the project
17:14:16 <rgoulding> vishnoianil: you are breaking up pretty badly
17:14:55 <dfarrell07> #info phrobb points suggests this may be more relevant to a release plan, overlap of projects in a release (conflicting ports and such), maybe not as much relevant to project creation
17:15:45 <dfarrell07> #info abhijitkumbhare points out that this could also help projects decide if they want to work with existing projects, at least have them look at that as an option, edwarnicke, dfarrell07, phrobb and others agree
17:16:37 <dfarrell07> #info edwarnicke points out that questions like ports, as phrobb pointed out, would be good to ID during releases (disjoint from this TODO I think)
17:16:52 <vishnoianil> joining from phone
17:17:46 <tykeal> heh
17:18:49 <mohnish__> anil: streaming starts again!
17:18:53 <tykeal> different 4k video
17:18:53 <LuisGomez> breaking again
17:19:05 <vishnoianil> finally joining from phone
17:20:35 <dfarrell07> #info timeboxing this, moving to mailing list
17:21:29 <dfarrell07> #action vishnoianil to bring these points to mailing list, drive discussion there
17:23:21 <vishnoianil> #action phrobb and dfarrell07 to drive forward tooling and planning for the next TSC election
17:23:44 <vishnoianil> #info daniel and phil has a meeting schedule tomorrow to start discussion on it
17:23:55 * tykeal plugs his ears
17:24:30 <tykeal> it's not been 10 years!
17:24:38 <edwarnicke> tykeal: LOL
17:24:48 <dfarrell07> #info phrobb and dfarrell07 have meeting for TSC elections planning tomorrow, dfarrell07 has started on simple, user-facing version of election docs, dfarrell07 has a bit of tooling code POC
17:25:11 <vishnoianil> #action phrobb to start the mail thread to discuss fast and phased approach and carbon release planning
17:25:25 <vishnoianil> #action vishnoianil to add short versions of those questions here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Main#Instructions_for_Submitting_Creation_Review and/or the template here: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:ABC_Plugin
17:25:37 <vishnoianil> #action vishnoianil, phrobb and abhijitkumbhare Need to think of better approach on how projects can be categorize in a better way, so that it can be
17:25:46 <vishnoianil> helpful for users who wants to propose a project proposal and looking for all the relevant projects in that scope. This will be useful in broadly categorizing the projects, that can be used as a reference for next TSC elections.
17:26:14 <dfarrell07> #action (2/2) helpful for users who wants to propose a project proposal and looking for all the relevant projects in that scope. This will be useful in broadly categorizing the projects, that can be used as a reference for next TSC elections.
17:26:25 <vishnoianil> #action vishnoianil to schedule a meeting to discussion the project categorization
17:26:31 <vishnoianil> #action anipbu / thanh to track the weather events and their dependent project to make sure projects are acting on these weather events. We probably need to maintain google sheet for tracking some of these weather events that has impact on higher number of downstream project.
17:26:45 <vishnoianil> #undo
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17:27:06 <anipbu> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=1529202298
17:27:13 <vishnoianil> #action colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron?
17:27:25 <vishnoianil> #action colindixon to send e-mail about possibly moving our documentation toolchain to ReStructured Text => Sphinx => Read The Docs, as opposed to using AsciiDoc => Asciidoctor, which has caused us some pain
17:28:29 <vishnoianil> #topic Events (Phil)
17:28:38 <vishnoianil> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events
17:29:35 <ChrisPriceAB> ChrisPriceAB has to drop off the call. Prem will stand in for the remainder. Apologies..
17:29:53 <anipbu> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/events/opendaylight-june-hackfest-2016   <--- Hackfest
17:29:55 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Prem__ will stand in for ChrisPriceAB for the remainder of the call.
17:31:18 <vishnoianil> #info ODL Summit CFP acceptance notification will be start from next week
17:31:50 <vishnoianil> #topic Boron (An/Thanh)
17:32:15 <anipbu> #info distribution-karaf which provides the karaf distribution for ODL releases will be changed to inherit from karaf-parent.  Possible breakages limited to CSIT tests and downstream usage of .zip files.
17:32:19 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#distribution-karaf_to_inherit_from_karaf-parent   <--- Weather item for distribution-karaf
17:33:07 <anipbu> #info The VPNService project will migrate some code out to NetVirt and Genius. Because NetVirt and VPNService have some overlap in functionality we will adopt the VPNService code as the new NetVirt re-architecture.
17:33:11 <anipbu> #info We are in the progress of planning a TWS Session to discuss the NetVirt/VPNService Migration in more details.
17:33:16 <anipbu> #info https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:NetVirt_VPNService_Migration   <--- Wiki page for NetVirt VPNService Migration
17:33:22 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/CrossProject:NetVirt_VPNService_Migration   <--- Wiki page for NetVirt VPNService Migration
17:34:17 <anipbu> #info Boron Autorelease is building successfully (job #147).  Many thanks to Vratko Polak, Releng, and various projects for the effort.
17:34:20 <anipbu> #info Atrium and didm are still removed from boron autorelease and eman and vbd have not yet been added to boron autorelease.
17:34:49 <anipbu> #info There are test failures in boron autorelease job related to bgpcep, mdsal, netconf, openflowjava, openflowplugin.
17:35:01 <anipbu> #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/147/testReport/   <--- Boron Autorelease Test Failures
17:35:28 <anipbu> #info Thanh has updated autorelease such that every autorelease nightly build will become a Release Candidate build.
17:35:30 <anipbu> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-June/006771.html   <--- Email thread discussion the autorelease job changes
17:37:30 <vina_ermagan> awesome!
17:37:48 <rovarga> zxiiro: no more frozen branches, thanks!!!
17:39:17 <vishnoianil> #topic Stable/Beryllium (An/Thanh)
17:39:32 <vishnoianil> #topic System Integration and Testing (Jamo)
17:40:17 <vishnoianil> #topic Infrastructure (Andrew/Thanh)
17:40:36 <vishnoianil> #info testing on sandbox and resolving the issues
17:40:58 <vishnoianil> #info final migration of release engineering migration on June 25
17:41:24 <vishnoianil> #Committer Promotions
17:42:12 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Committer Promotions
17:42:18 <vishnoianil> #topic Sai MarapaReddy as committer on L2Switch project
17:42:25 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/l2switch-dev/2016-May/001191.html
17:42:37 <vishnoianil> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/owner:%22Sai+MarapaReddy+%253Csai.marapareddy%2540gmail.com%253E%22+status:merged+project:l2switch
17:43:55 <vishnoianil> #startvote shall the TSC approve Sai MarapaReddy as a committer on l2switch? -1,0,+1
17:43:55 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC approve Sai MarapaReddy as a committer on l2switch? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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17:44:04 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:44:05 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:44:05 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:44:05 <rgoulding> #vote +1
17:44:06 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:44:07 <mohnish__> #vote +1
17:44:07 <Prem__> #vote +1
17:44:08 <rovarga> #vote +1
17:44:08 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
17:44:17 <vishnoianil> #endvote
17:44:17 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve Sai MarapaReddy as a committer on l2switch?" Results are
17:44:17 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): Prem__, mohnish__, rovarga, rgoulding, edwarnicke, dfarrell07, gkaempfer, abhijitkumbhare, vishnoianil
17:44:25 <vishnoianil> #agreed Sai MarapaReddy in now a committer on l2switch
17:45:04 <vishnoianil> #topic Subhash Sing as a committer on DIDM project
17:45:11 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-June/005359.html
17:45:25 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/didm-dev/2016-June/000412.html
17:45:36 <vishnoianil> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/project:didm+owner:%22subhash+kumar+singh+%253Csubh.singh007%2540gmail.com%253E%22
17:45:45 <vishnoianil> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/project:didm+reviewer:%22subhash+kumar+singh+%253Csubh.singh007%2540gmail.com%253E%22
17:50:42 <hideyuki> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/DIDM:Main
17:52:40 <dfarrell07> #info concerns about only having 1/4 votes, about PTL not being committer, tabled and taking to list
17:53:35 * dfarrell07 is looking at clock and 3 remaining votes
17:54:08 <vishnoianil> #topic Donald Hunter as a committer on Unimgr project
17:54:14 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-June/005358.html
17:54:20 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/unimgr-dev/2016-June/000148.html
17:54:28 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/unimgr-dev/2016-June/000150.html
17:54:36 <vishnoianil> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/owner:%22Donald+Hunter%22+project:unimgr
17:55:01 <vishnoianil> #startvote shall the TSC approve Donald Hunter as a committer on unimgr? -1,0,+1
17:55:01 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC approve Donald Hunter as a committer on unimgr? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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17:55:05 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:55:06 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:55:06 <rgoulding> #vote +1
17:55:07 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
17:55:09 <Prem__> #vote +1
17:55:10 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:55:10 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:55:11 <rovarga> #vote +1
17:55:12 <mohnish__> #vote +1
17:55:12 <ttkacik> #vote +1
17:55:25 <vishnoianil> #endvote
17:55:25 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve Donald Hunter as a committer on unimgr?" Results are
17:55:25 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): Prem__, mohnish__, gkaempfer, rgoulding, edwarnicke, dfarrell07, rovarga, ttkacik, abhijitkumbhare, vishnoianil
17:55:27 <vishnoianil> #agreed Donald Hunte in now a committer on unimgr
17:57:05 <vishnoianil> #topic David Goldberg as a committer on Unimgr project
17:57:33 <gkaempfer> David is a commiter on other projects. The requirement for a PTL is just to be a commiter
17:57:59 <gkaempfer> but not necessarily a committer on the actual project
17:59:23 <vishnoianil> #action phrobb add documentation for the process of project PTL election
17:59:41 <vishnoianil> #topic Bartosz Michalik as a committer on Unimgr project
18:00:25 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/unimgr-dev/2016-June/000148.html
18:00:34 <dfarrell07> #info "The project lead is a Committer selected by vote from the Committers in the project."  <- the relevant line in governance docs about these PTL as committer questions. I think it implies "committer to same project", but it doesn't say that explicitly.
18:00:35 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/unimgr-dev/2016-June/000150.html
18:00:57 <dfarrell07> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/tsc-charter PTL as committer docs, see bottom
18:01:27 <dfarrell07> gkaempfer see those notes above wrt your point
18:02:31 <dfarrell07> #info this committer nominee doesn't have public Gerrits, need to reach out and ask for more contribution history
18:02:38 <vishnoianil> #action vishnoianil notify Bartosz and David about the tsc comments
18:02:51 <gkaempfer> thanks dfarrell07. This situation happened since there were only two candidates for PTL and one wasn't a committer at all and David was...
18:03:01 <vishnoianil> #topic Archive Reviews:
18:03:09 <vishnoianil> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Archive_Proposals/Affinity_Metadata_Service
18:03:20 <vishnoianil> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/project:affinity+status:merged
18:03:27 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/affinity-dev/2016-May/000157.html
18:03:34 <vishnoianil> #startvote shall the TSC move the Affinity Metadata project to archived? -1,0,+1
18:03:34 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC move the Affinity Metadata project to archived? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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18:03:40 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
18:03:41 <rgoulding> #vote +1
18:03:41 <mohnish__> #vote +1
18:03:42 <Prem__> #vote +1
18:03:42 <rovarga> #vote +1
18:03:44 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
18:03:47 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
18:03:55 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
18:03:55 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
18:04:00 <vishnoianil> #endvote
18:04:00 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC move the Affinity Metadata project to archived?" Results are
18:04:00 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): Prem__, mohnish__, rovarga, rgoulding, edwarnicke, dfarrell07, gkaempfer, abhijitkumbhare, vishnoianil
18:04:20 <vishnoianil> #agreed the Affinity Metadata project is now archived
18:04:45 <tykeal> and delete the outstanding jenkins silo :)
18:05:21 <abhijitkumbhare> About tooling & PTL: I meant we can have the PTL info here: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/admin/projects/<projectname> ? That way its immediately flagged thru some automated process whenever the PTL is updated.
18:05:29 <vishnoianil> #topic Defense4Aall Archive Proposal (Posted 5/26/2016)
18:05:39 <vishnoianil> #link Defense4Aall Archive Proposal (Posted 5/26/2016)
18:06:00 <vishnoianil> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/project:defense4all+status:merged
18:06:12 <vishnoianil> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/defense4all-dev/2016-May/000156.html
18:06:25 <vishnoianil> #startvote shall the TSC move the Defense4Aall project to archived? -1,0,+1
18:06:25 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC move the Defense4Aall project to archived? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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18:06:27 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
18:06:27 <rgoulding> #vote +1
18:06:28 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
18:06:29 <Prem__> #vote +1
18:06:32 <mohnish__> #vote +1
18:06:32 <gkaempfer> #vote +1
18:06:33 <rovarga> #vote +1
18:06:33 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
18:06:33 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
18:06:37 <vishnoianil> #endvote
18:06:37 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC move the Defense4Aall project to archived?" Results are
18:06:37 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): Prem__, mohnish__, gkaempfer, rgoulding, edwarnicke, dfarrell07, rovarga, abhijitkumbhare, vishnoianil
18:06:45 <vishnoianil> #agreed the Defense4Aall project is now archived
18:07:15 <vishnoianil> #topic cookies and beer
18:07:20 <vishnoianil> #endmeeting