========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by colindixon at 17:00:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-08-04-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 17:00:32) * gkaempfer (gkaempfer, 17:00:38) * colindixon (colindixon, 17:00:40) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-07-28-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes part 1 (colindixon, 17:00:50) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-07-28-17.40.html last week's meeting minutes part 2 (colindixon, 17:00:59) * adetalhouet (adetalhouet, 17:01:13) * ACTION: anipbu to track the removal of ancient dependencies and readout next time how far we get (colindixon, 17:01:26) * abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 17:01:35) * ACTION: colindixon to get CaseyODL to replay about nofollow on the TSC list so we get an actual ruling (colindixon, 17:01:38) * ACTION: anipu to follow up with relevant projects about distribution size: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007250.html (colindixon, 17:01:49) * ACTION: colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion (colindixon, 17:02:10) * Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 17:02:23) * Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 17:02:48) * Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 17:03:02) * ACTION: edwarnicke to send out his analysis ouf how to remove nodejs servers from people pulling in dlux to see if that helps (colindixon, 17:03:17) * Mohnish Anumala (mohnish__, 17:03:23) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-August/005725.html features that are currently labeled as experimental, comment there if you disagree or things have changed (colindixon, 17:04:15) * ACTION: colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon? (colindixon, 17:04:25) * ACTION: phrobb to work on having a policy for how attendance to design forums works going forward with community involvement (colindixon, 17:04:32) * ACTION: colindixon and phrobb to set up a poll of committers, PTLs and TSC members to see if there's a desire to have one TSC meeting a month at an APAC-friendly time (colindixon, 17:04:37) * ACTION: phrobb to add linuxcon europe to the events list (colindixon, 17:05:02) * ACTION: colindixon to add TSC elections to the agenda for next week (colindixon, 17:05:13) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=48214#Agenda the agenda in it's usual place (colindixon, 17:06:13) * edwarnicke says that he's been trying to help get projects into the distribution, it's been bumpy for a variety of reasons,b ut making progress (colindixon, 17:07:06) * rovarga for jmedved (rovarga, 17:07:27) * TSC mail list discussions and votes (colindixon, 17:07:46) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005695.html vote to set tentaive dates for a tradition carbon release plan passed (colindixon, 17:08:13) * next step it hammer out what we need to get done and plan it for this release so that we can credibly take a stab at fast and/or phased if we want to for Nitrogen (colindixon, 17:08:44) * ACTION: colindixon to start an e-mail thread trying to start a fast and/or phased experience during Carbon (pull in skitt, rovarga, and edwarnicke) (colindixon, 17:10:06) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005539.html escalation process we have in OpenDaylight (colindixon, 17:10:17) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-June/005377.html Additional questions in the Project Proposal Template (colindixon, 17:10:31) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-June/005407.html Asking the Board to Remove the Singularity Principle (colindixon, 17:10:35) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-July/005594.html Categorizing projects, both on the wiki and for new projects to browse (colindixon, 17:10:45) * edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 17:11:10) * event (colindixon, 17:11:26) * LINK: https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 17:11:32) * openstack sillicon valley and openstack east coming up wtih OpenDaylight involvement (colindixon, 17:12:39) * opendalyight summit is coming up at the end of september (colindixon, 17:12:47) * linuxcon Europe has a talk on ODL performance (from dfarrell07) (colindixon, 17:13:13) * CFP for the OpenDaylight forum in India, CFP closes next week (colindixon, 17:13:53) * boron (colindixon, 17:15:53) * There are plans to change the yang model leaf name of tcp_flag in OpenFlowPlugin. Fix patches are pushed to all the impacted project: netvirt, genius, sfc, nic, vtn, didm (colindixon, 17:16:05) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Boron/Waiver/API/Records#OpenFlow_plugin_Tcp_Flags_API_Change_Waiver <--- Link to API Change (colindixon, 17:16:23) * Kindly remind projects to submit API Change Waiver if submitting any changes to the API such as yang files after M4 (colindixon, 17:16:42) * LINK: https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/203/ <--- Successful build of Boron Autorelease. (colindixon, 17:16:51) * that also means we'll be doing branch cutting today (colindixon, 17:17:31) * dfarrell07 and zxiiro say that there have been some conversations about delaying the release and/or M5 if we're having issues (colindixon, 17:20:40) * jamoluhrsen says that if we weren't able to fix the distribution size limit, we might have to delay the final release, but seemingly not M5 (colindixon, 17:21:08) * LuisGomez says we need to fix the distribution size issue in 1-2 days or we really will need to consider letting the release slip (colindixon, 17:22:05) * colindixon asks if there's a reason we couldn't temporarily increase the nexus size limit to avoid slipping Boron while we fix it? (colindixon, 17:24:02) * LINK: https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6341 <--- blocker bug for distro size (jamoluhrsen, 17:24:12) * , discussion ensues on the sanity of the huge distro. (phrobb, 17:24:44) * the plan proposed is for Andy to increase the size allowed in Nexus so that other progress can be made. At the same time a blocking bug will be posted on the distro size and a condition of bug fix is to revert the max size limit to 500MB (phrobb, 17:27:18) * ACTION: tykeal to increase the file limit from 512MB to 600MB to get us pas tthis hump (colindixon, 17:27:26) * Andy to increase the size by 100MB to 600MB while this issue persists and the blocking bug is open (phrobb, 17:28:10) * ACTION: jamoluhrsen should add to the bug that we need to have the nexus file size limit set to 512 MB again (colindixon, 17:28:36) * quote: [8/4/16 16:13:51] zxiiro: any idea if we are going to relax the m5 deadline today? infra has been painful during this crucial time (rovarga, 17:29:53) * colindixon says that projects should please raise their issues on the release and/or tsc list so we can figure out how to deal with it up-to and/or including a delay (colindixon, 17:30:41) * colindixon says that if it's one project and a leaf project (which I think netvirt is) that this shoudl be handled for the one project instead of delaying the entire release over it (colindixon, 17:32:43) * jamoluhrsen says VTN likely has simlar issues (colindixon, 17:32:50) * colindixon says, obviously we'll dealy the release if we have to at the end if we'll have regressions (colindixon, 17:33:06) * that being said (and edwarnicke and dfarrell07 agree) that we should wait until we get to the point we feel we have to dealy the final relese (colindixon, 17:33:33) * obviously, if the approach seems fatally flawed, please speak up, the TSC exists to help projects get stuff done (colindixon, 17:34:14) * stable/beryllum (colindixon, 17:34:26) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-August/005710.html Beryllium-SR3 release status: Ready to go (colindixon, 17:34:57) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the Beryllium-SR release as linked to in the above mail?" Results are, +1: 10 (colindixon, 17:37:04) * AGREED: by consenus, the TSC approves the Beryllium-SR3 release (colindixon, 17:37:21) * singlularity discussions (colindixon, 17:39:03) * this was a topic at the board 2 meetings ago, and a small group of people was going to try to explain the intent of those principles and it would maybe help the discussion (colindixon, 17:39:38) * phrobb says he expects that to come back at the beginning of september (colindixon, 17:40:08) * TSC elections (colindixon, 17:40:30) * there was TWS on Monday on the TSC elections and our progress (colindixon, 17:40:41) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tws/opendaylight-meeting-tws.2016-08-01-17.00.html meeting minutes (colindixon, 17:40:56) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Tech_Work_Stream:Main there's a WebEx recording that should be posted here (colindixon, 17:41:19) * the results of the meeting were that we needed to do 3 things: (1) pick represented groups, (2) pick election cadence, (3) make sure we work out corner cases of using the tools we have (colindixon, 17:42:17) * ACTION: colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections (colindixon, 17:43:24) * ACTION: dfarrell07 to upate the wiki about what happens when a person is a PTL for more than one project in the same represented group (colindixon, 17:44:01) * LINK: https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/url/R2WM4rG0u4td9xj_n_xbKIKyWrZp7hZvOlvPnsnQYhG00000 <-- Link to Webex Recording of the TWS meeting on the Elections Process (colindixon, 17:44:08) * the other corner case is how to do weighted elections after the fact, e.g., scaled-popularity (colindixon, 17:44:32) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Election_Proposal the wiki page on this (colindixon, 17:44:52) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Election_Proposal#All_Types.2C_Mature_Lifecycle_States in particular dfarrell07 says this one seems to have had the most support so far (colindixon, 17:45:39) * ACTION: dfarrell07 to try to get us to the point that we coudl vote on (1) and (2) above (colindixon, 17:46:05) * cookies (colindixon, 17:46:39) Meeting ended at 17:46:45 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * colindixon * colindixon to get CaseyODL to replay about nofollow on the TSC list so we get an actual ruling * colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion * colindixon to try to find somebody to help with documenting the general procedure for the platform upgrade to Boron/Carbon? * colindixon and phrobb to set up a poll of committers, PTLs and TSC members to see if there's a desire to have one TSC meeting a month at an APAC-friendly time * colindixon to add TSC elections to the agenda for next week * colindixon to start an e-mail thread trying to start a fast and/or phased experience during Carbon (pull in skitt, rovarga, and edwarnicke) * colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections * dfarrell07 * dfarrell07 to upate the wiki about what happens when a person is a PTL for more than one project in the same represented group * dfarrell07 to try to get us to the point that we coudl vote on (1) and (2) above * edwarnicke * edwarnicke to send out his analysis ouf how to remove nodejs servers from people pulling in dlux to see if that helps * colindixon to start an e-mail thread trying to start a fast and/or phased experience during Carbon (pull in skitt, rovarga, and edwarnicke) * colindixon and edwarnicke to try to work through the corner cases and process of the TSC elections * jamoluhrsen * jamoluhrsen should add to the bug that we need to have the nexus file size limit set to 512 MB again * phrobb * phrobb to work on having a policy for how attendance to design forums works going forward with community involvement * colindixon and phrobb to set up a poll of committers, PTLs and TSC members to see if there's a desire to have one TSC meeting a month at an APAC-friendly time * phrobb to add linuxcon europe to the events list * rovarga * colindixon to start an e-mail thread trying to start a fast and/or phased experience during Carbon (pull in skitt, rovarga, and edwarnicke) * tykeal * tykeal to increase the file limit from 512MB to 600MB to get us pas tthis hump * **UNASSIGNED** * anipbu to track the removal of ancient dependencies and readout next time how far we get * anipu to follow up with relevant projects about distribution size: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-July/007250.html People present (lines said) --------------------------- * colindixon (91) * odl_meetbot (8) * jamoluhrsen (7) * ChrisPriceAB (5) * abhijitkumbhare (5) * rovarga (4) * phrobb (4) * vishnoianil (4) * mohnish__ (2) * gkaempfer (2) * adetalhouet (2) * dfarrell07 (2) * edwarnicke (2) * vrpolak (1) * tykeal (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4