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17:00:48 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing and roll call
17:00:53 <colindixon> TSC members please #info in
17:00:56 <colindixon> #info colindixon
17:01:46 <gkaempfer> #info gkaempfer
17:01:47 <adetalhouet> #info adetalhouet
17:02:10 <colindixon> #Link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=51341#Agenda the agenda
17:02:15 <colindixon> #Link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-10-20-17.00.html
17:02:19 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
17:02:25 <colindixon> #link phrobb to got the OPNFV plugfest on our events page https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events
17:02:30 <colindixon> #link ChrisPriceAB opened a mailing list thread on release@ and tsc@ to talk about how to help projects that cross ODL/OPNFV deliver on promises in both places at the same time
17:02:44 <colindixon> #link colindixon started a thread on networking ODL in Ocata on the neutron-dev list: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/neutron-dev/2016-October/001040.html
17:02:51 <colindixon> #info phrobb sent mail to all people who are eligible to run that they are eligible as well as asking for self-nomination
17:02:57 <colindixon> #link skitt updated the wiki with odlparent being mature: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Category:Mature_Projects
17:03:05 <colindixon> #action colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way
17:03:24 <colindixon> #action colindixon and zxiiro to work on trying to build tools to help with what's failing on failures in our jenkins jobs
17:03:24 <colindixon> #action dfarrell07 colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion
17:03:24 <colindixon> #action colindixon to change the project facts template to include a type field and then auto-populate lists based on that information
17:03:38 <ChrisPriceAB> Oops sorry guys, not on the call.
17:03:39 <colindixon> #action phrobb to work on getting us better control of the events page to make his life less painful
17:03:48 <colindixon> #action phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better
17:04:21 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell
17:04:37 <colindixon> #info anipbu has changed it so that the wiki of project types points to the tracking spreadsheet showing project types
17:04:40 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke
17:05:31 <colindixon> #topic mailing list discussions
17:05:41 <rovarga> #info rovarga for jmedved
17:05:46 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/neutron-dev/2016-October/001040.html thread on networking-odl in ocata
17:07:02 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-October/006188.html thread on syncing ODL/OPNFV in Danube/Carbon
17:07:03 <ChrisPriceAB> @colindixon Brady will stand in for me today.
17:07:10 <colindixon> thanks ChrisPriceAB
17:07:12 <colindixon> ebrjohn: welcome
17:07:16 <colindixon> #Info ebrjohn for ChrisPriceAB
17:07:18 <ChrisPriceAB> :)
17:07:19 <ebrjohn> #info Brady Johnson
17:07:26 <colindixon> #topic events
17:07:37 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events
17:08:06 <colindixon> #info OpenStack summit is going on in Barcelona right now, anything that has to do with NFV or SFC gets lots of mentioning of ODL
17:08:13 * ebrjohn nice presentation by Phil!!
17:08:23 <colindixon> #info presentations on ODL in the marketplace have been packed, booth is active
17:08:36 <colindixon> #info panels with ODL/OPNFV folks was well-received
17:09:38 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/events/2016-11-16-000000-2016-11-17-000000/opendaylight-forum-india  the India forum is coming up soon on 11/16
17:10:09 <colindixon> #topic boron
17:10:10 <colindixon> #chair anipbu phrobb
17:10:10 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: anipbu colindixon phrobb
17:10:23 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Boron/SR1/Status   <--- We initially targeted Boron SR1 Release on 10/27, but our latest build has blocker bugs in NETVIRT/SFC, CENTINEL, OPENFLOWPLUGIN, YANGTOOLS
17:11:20 <colindixon> #info I think the lesson learned is that having a release during the the OpenStack summit
17:11:50 * ebrjohn good point colindixon!
17:15:22 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks and it turns out that the blocking bugs above appear to all not be regressions from Boron release, but rather regressions either from intended behavior or from Beryllium release
17:15:45 <colindixon> #info it is still the case that these are all significant bugs that we'd like to get fixed
17:17:20 <colindixon> #agreed we will wait until next week to try to release Boron-SR1
17:17:44 <colindixon> #info at some point, we will have to draw a line in the sand and be pretty strict about what's a blocker and not
17:19:11 <colindixon> #topic carbon
17:19:23 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Carbon_Release_Plan#M1:_Draft_Plan   <--- Carbon M1 Offset 1 Status is due on today 10/27
17:19:30 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Weather#Fix_of_mandatory_nodes_augmentation_to_target_in_another_module   <--- Mandatory nodes cannot be added to node from another module via augmentation
17:20:00 <anipbu> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-October/008601.html   <--- There are Carbon Autorelease Build Failures in sal-clustering-commons.
17:21:33 <anipbu> Atrium: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/47141/
17:22:12 <rovarga> #info the weather item has already been merged, no complaints so far
17:22:14 <anipbu> Centinel: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/47630/
17:23:26 <anipbu> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/atrium-dev/2016-October/000029.html
17:23:29 <adetalhouet> I think this is us getting back to the issue where committer lists aren't well maintained, hence lack of active committers
17:25:53 <ebrjohn> You would think when the last commiter steps down, they would say let people know there are no more committers
17:26:28 <colindixon> #Info colindixon asks if we can try to reach out to the other two committers and drop atrium from autorelease to unblock things in the meantime
17:28:49 <tykeal> anipbu: the following people have committer rights in atrium still: Subhash Singh& Harsh Awasthi
17:29:52 <colindixon> #action anipbu to reach out to the two committers on atrium to tell them Barathi Subrahmaniyam <barathi.subrahmaniyam@wipro.com>, Subhash Singh <subhash_singh@criterionnetworks.com>
17:30:39 <colindixon> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/47630/ centinel reported the bug as blocking in Boron-SR1, it was merged on master, but not stable/boron
17:30:40 <tykeal> colindixon: not Barthi, but Suhash Singh <subhash_singh@criterionnetworks.com>
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17:31:25 <colindixon> #action anipbu to reach out to the two committers on atrium to tell them Harsh Awasthi <harsh.52@wipro.com>, Subhash Singh <subhash_singh@criterionnetworks.com>
17:31:30 <colindixon> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/47630/ centinel reported the bug as blocking in Boron-SR1, it was merged on master, but not stable/boron
17:31:54 <colindixon> #info colindixon says that if centinel hasn't bothered to report the bug or merge the patch, he's tempted to ship it broken in Boron-SR1
17:35:37 <ebrjohn> yet another good point colindixon
17:36:01 <colindixon> #action anipbu will continue to attempt to contact centinel, warning them that we relaly need it merged
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17:36:25 <colindixon> #action anipbu will continue to attempt to contact centinel, warning them that we relaly need it merged, if we get to a boron respin without that patch, maybe ask the question again on the tsc list
17:36:40 <rovarga> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/46265/
17:37:06 <colindixon> #info the above patch will fix an issue with an sdninterface app that is the same as the centinel patch
17:37:34 <colindixon> #action anipbu to follow up with sdninferfaceapp w.r.t. 46265
17:38:18 <colindixon> #topic system integration and test
17:38:36 <colindixon> #info a system test library broke a couple projects for the distribution test jobs, it should be fixed now
17:39:04 <jamoluhrsen> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/47558/  <--- system test library fix/workaround
17:39:39 <colindixon> #topic infra
17:39:39 <colindixon> #info last Saturday we upgraded nexus and jenkins sandbox
17:39:39 <colindixon> #info this past week on Tuesday and yesterday, we had security updates rolled out because of the dirty cow CVE
17:40:08 <colindixon> #info the only issue that came out was that the CSIT jobs had issues as things came back up because of a huge swatch of jobs, but it resolve itself over 90 minutes
17:40:31 <colindixon> #Info tykeal has info about upgrading F5 devices with 10G NICs, but hasn't had a chance to look at it yet
17:41:04 <colindixon> #topic Federation Service Creation Review
17:41:07 <colindixon> gkaempfer: you there?
17:41:14 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Federation_Service
17:41:46 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-October/000537.html Proposed on 10/5/2016
17:44:41 <colindixon> #info the federation service is a set of utilities to allow for two different OpenDaylight clusters to share information with eachother to allow for cross-cluster functionality
17:48:02 <colindixon> #info this is different is from existing mechanims that are mostly about syncing state, not sharing state
17:49:01 <colindixon> dmalachovsky: you're going to be up next
17:49:03 <colindixon> how long will it take?
17:49:47 <dmalachovsky> colindixon: 5-10 mins from my side, then questions
17:50:36 <colindixon> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:DluxApps
17:50:41 <colindixon> if people want to pre-read at all
17:51:49 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke asks why offset 1 and kernel vs. offset 0, gkaempfer basically says it's not quite so basic as offset 0 projcts, but still important
17:52:34 <colindixon> #info rovarga says that having this be offset 0 woudl help having staged releases of kernel vs. plugin
17:53:12 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC move the federation project to an incubation project? -1,0,+1
17:53:12 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC move the federation project to an incubation project? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
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17:53:21 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:53:23 <adetalhouet> #vote +1
17:53:28 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:53:29 <ebrjohn> #vote +1
17:53:31 <rovarga> #vote +1
17:53:51 <colindixon> dfarrell07:
17:53:53 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
17:53:55 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
17:53:59 <colindixon> #endvote
17:53:59 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC move the federation project to an incubation project?" Results are
17:53:59 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): ebrjohn, rovarga, adetalhouet, edwarnicke, dfarrell07, colindixon, abhijitkumbhare
17:54:17 <colindixon> #agreed the federation project is now an incubation project in ODL
17:54:19 <colindixon> congrats!
17:54:23 <colindixon> #topic Dlux Apps Creation review
17:54:23 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:DluxApps
17:54:25 <colindixon> #link proposed on https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-October/000544.html proposed 10/13/2016
17:55:45 <colindixon> for what it's worth, I did review the nitty gritty of the federation service to make sure that things seemed good with scope, committers, names, etc.
17:56:30 <colindixon> #info basically this is a split of Dlux into the core of dlux that people know how to maintain and apps that are harder to get things fixed for and getting patches merged for apps
17:57:20 <colindixon> #info the goal is to have an apps repo with more committers to allow apps to updated with fewer blocking times, while keeping the integrity of the dlux core and committers on that project
17:59:23 <colindixon> #Info the plan is to have this bee offset 1 and ideally share mailing lists with dlux because they are so close
18:00:06 <colindixon> #info colindixon asked over e-mail if this really solves the problem since we'll still likely have a bunch of committers who don't know all the apps in the single apps repo, but the hope is that a broader set of committers will keep things better than before
18:00:39 <colindixon> #info abhijitkumbhare asks if dlux is offset 1, how can dlux apps also be offset 1?
18:00:48 <colindixon> #Info dmalachovsky says that they feel the can manage it
18:01:10 <rovarga> #info the same way yangtools and netconf can be in offset-0 :)
18:02:05 <colindixon> #Info colindixon notes that there are only 3 offsets and the dependency tree for ODL is somewhre in the the 9-12 range, so there must be projects that depend on each other in the same offset
18:02:31 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC move DluxApps to being an incubation project? -1,0,+1
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18:02:34 <dfarrell07> #vote +1
18:02:34 <rovarga> #vote +1
18:02:37 <adetalhouet> #vote 1
18:02:37 <odl_meetbot> adetalhouet: 1 is not a valid option. Valid options are -1, 0, +1.
18:02:39 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
18:02:43 <ebrjohn> #vote +1
18:02:43 <adetalhouet> #vote +1
18:02:46 <colindixon> #vote +1
18:02:46 <edwarnicke> #vote +1
18:02:49 <colindixon> #endvote
18:02:49 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC move DluxApps to being an incubation project?" Results are
18:02:49 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): ebrjohn, rovarga, adetalhouet, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, colindixon, abhijitkumbhare
18:03:11 <colindixon> #agreed DluxApps is now an incubation proejct
18:03:41 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if it should be dlux/apps or dluxapps?
18:04:07 <colindixon> #Info edwarnicke points out that will result in a directory called apps, which could be confusing
18:04:13 <colindixon> #info it sounds like dluxapps is a better move
18:04:22 * edwarnicke notes he is easily confused
18:04:28 <colindixon> #topic cookies
18:05:40 <colindixon> #info there was  meeting on networking-odl in ocata in Barcelona and there will more details on the public thread to follow
18:05:53 <colindixon> #endmeeting