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#opendaylight-meeting: carbon release sync
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Meeting started by colindixon at 15:06:43 UTC.  The full logs are
available at
http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/carbon_release_sync/opendaylight-meeting-carbon_release_sync.2017-05-08-15.06.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* recap  (colindixon, 15:06:52)
  * the biggest issue with Carbon was that Karaf 4 seemed to have wildly
    changed bundle/feature lifecycle managment from Karaf 3 and that
    would cause all kinds of problems  (colindixon, 15:07:26)
  * in particular, it reloads bundles and features in ways that Karaf 3
    didn't, many (really, almost all) ODL bundles and features dont'
    handle being reloaded correctly, so pretty regularly a bundle will
    not come back and result in things just hanging  (colindixon,
    15:08:34)
  * this happens with Karaf 4 SingelFeatureTests pretty regularly
    causing the autorelease to fail almost every time on those
    (colindixon, 15:08:52)
  * this has more dire implications when doing normal things with CSIT
    and installing feautre  (colindixon, 15:09:09)
  * LINK:
    https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-May/010746.html
    the result is that combined with a statement from Jamie that Karaf 3
    will have security support for the duration of Carbon, people are
    thinking of shipping Carbon on Karaf 3 and moving to Karaf 4 as a
    major effort in Nitrogen  (colindixon, 15:10:15)
  * it looks like there are 7 +1s from TSC members to move Carbon to
    Karaf 3  (colindixon, 15:10:37)
  * LINK:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VcB12FBiFV4GAEHZSspHBNxKI_9XugJp-6Qbbw20Omk/edit#gid=1455372448
    colindixon has been tracking autorelease failures here  (colindixon,
    15:21:14)

* where we are  (colindixon, 15:30:07)
  * we have 3 autorelease jobs for carbon now: normal, failnever, and
    notest  (colindixon, 15:30:31)
  * ACTION: zxiiro-away will work on consolidating those into one job
    that runs with -Dskip.karaf.featureTest=true for now and maybe a
    better way to disable Karaf 4 in the future  (colindixon, 15:44:57)
  * ACTION: colindixon will close the thread with 7 +1s from TSC members
    on shipping Carbon on Karaf 3 asking for any critical feedback on
    the decisions  (colindixon, 15:45:24)
  * ACTION: colindixon will follow up with a mail to relaese and TSC
    basically saying we should take the last succsessful staging
    repository and use it as RC0 and lock the stable/carbon branches to
    start making progress on testing and releasing Carbon  (colindixon,
    15:46:17)



Meeting ended at 15:46:18 UTC.



Action items, by person
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* colindixon
  * colindixon will close the thread with 7 +1s from TSC members on
    shipping Carbon on Karaf 3 asking for any critical feedback on the
    decisions
  * colindixon will follow up with a mail to relaese and TSC basically
    saying we should take the last succsessful staging repository and
    use it as RC0 and lock the stable/carbon branches to start making
    progress on testing and releasing Carbon



People present (lines said)
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* colindixon (15)
* odl_meetbot (3)



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