========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by colindixon at 18:04:48 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-01-05-18.04.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 18:04:49) * edwarnicke (edwarnicke, 18:04:52) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=52461#Agenda (colindixon, 18:04:53) * Vratko Polak proxying for Luis Gomez (vrpolak, 18:04:54) * skitt (skitt, 18:04:54) * Thanh (zxiiro, 18:04:54) * colindixon (colindixon, 18:04:55) * jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 18:04:56) * anipbu (anipbu, 18:04:57) * Hideyuki (hideyuki, 18:04:57) * abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 18:04:57) * shague (shague, 18:04:58) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-12-23-04.30.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 18:05:16) * ACTION: phrobb to follow up with LF folks about a TSC mixer at the Leadership Summit (colindixon, 18:05:55) * ACTION: colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way (colindixon, 18:06:08) * ACTION: colindixon and zxiiro to work on trying to build tools to help with what's failing on failures in our jenkins jobs (colindixon, 18:06:08) * ACTION: colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion (colindixon, 18:06:10) * ACTION: phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better (colindixon, 18:06:11) * ACTION: colindixon, vishnoianil, gzhao, anipbu and others to work to advertise APAC-friendly TSC calls to the India and China communities, as well as projects/PTLs in Asia (colindixon, 18:06:11) * TSC mailing list votes and discssions (colindixon, 18:06:43) * rovarga (rovarga, 18:06:45) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-November/006368.html projects with few/no active committers (colindixon, 18:06:54) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-November/006298.html Delivering to consumer project off-cadence (ODP & OPNFV collaboration) (colindixon, 18:07:11) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009034.html flagship features in Carbon (colindixon, 18:07:42) * ACTION: colindixon to try to close the loop with OPNFV on what they need for their next release to figure out what they actually need from us for that (colindixon, 18:09:13) * dfarrell07 notes that there was a poll about what version of OpenStack OPNFV was going to use and so that might be useful input for how ODL/OPNFV interact (colindixon, 18:11:39) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-December/006485.html Carbon hackfest date/location (colindixon, 18:13:34) * unless something else happens, the plan is to have no big, formal mid-cycle hackfest, there is a resonable chance that a member organziation will host one (colindixon, 18:14:09) * events (colindixon, 18:14:28) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main <-- link to updated events wiki page where info will be posted ongoing (phrobb, 18:14:32) * LINK: https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 18:14:37) * the wiki page above is the more TSC and ODL-internal useful calendar, with lots of events listed and where it's easy to edit (colindixon, 18:16:35) * open source leadership summit at lake tahoe Feb 14-16 (colindixon, 18:17:06) * possible ODL carbon hackfest being planned (colindixon, 18:17:15) * ONS 2017 CF closes 1/21, please submit, lots of work being done to make this more truly about open networking in general and not all ON.lab all the time (colindixon, 18:17:44) * NFV world congress, OpenStack summit, OPNFV summit, Containercon/Linuxcon/cloudopen, all listed there with more details (colindixon, 18:18:37) * boron (colindixon, 18:19:21) * nothing this week (colindixon, 18:19:26) * carbon (colindixon, 18:19:29) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-December/009011.html <--- Autorelease issues with VTN has beenn resolved. (anipbu, 18:20:02) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009023.html <--- Autorelease issues with BIER has beenn resolved. (anipbu, 18:20:08) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009032.html <--- Autorelease Build Job currently failing on OF-CONFIG. Currently waiting on folks from ZTE to identify a fix. (anipbu, 18:20:14) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2016-December/008994.html <--- Still waiting on M3 Status from 4 Projects: aaa, controller, mdsal, netconf (anipbu, 18:20:31) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009022.html <--- Periodic Jobs Removed (anipbu, 18:20:50) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-January/006498.html <--- Long Job Queues (anipbu, 18:20:55) * Mostly impact netvirt. Waiting to see if other projects have been affected and if any impact on release. (anipbu, 18:21:09) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009024.html <--- Karaf 4 Migration Effort. (anipbu, 18:21:21) * Karaf 4 migration effort will be a critical endeaver in Carbon. Need to identify if Karaf 4 is a REQUIREMENT to remain in the Carbon Simultaneous Release Plan. (anipbu, 18:22:00) * If Karaf 4 is a requirement, we need to identify the timeline (M4/M5/RC0?), support documentation (step-by-step wiki page), and TWS recording (anipbu, 18:22:21) * Two Migration: migration to singlefeaturetest, migration to karaf 4 (anipbu, 18:22:32) * We need to poll projects on available resources. If no resources available, what are the options? 2 distributions, drop from release, communnity generates patches? (anipbu, 18:22:39) * colindixon says that we really have to get away from Karaf 3 and onto Karaf 4 for, at the very least, security reasons (colindixon, 18:25:29) * this would also get us on the current Karaf timeline, which means we get features faster from them (colindixon, 18:26:42) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC move that we will produce _only_ a Karaf 4 distribution for Carbon and deal with how to get us across that line?" Results are, +1: 10 (colindixon, 18:32:50) * AGREED: the Carbon release of OpenDaylight will ship with Karaf 4 only, mostly for security reasons, the TSC takes ownership for getting us across that line (colindixon, 18:33:18) * ACTION: skitt and others to create a step-by-step guide and minimum required steps on th wiki (colindixon, 18:34:42) * LINK: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/49550 <-- yangtools patch (skitt, 18:35:11) * vishnoianil asks if it has to be done all at once (colindixon, 18:36:39) * as skitt explained in the e-mail, the only requirment is that we move in dependency order and nobody should have to be broken ever, we have a wave of karaf3+4 patches cascade through and then remove karaf3 as a wave going backward if we want (colindixon, 18:37:50) * skitt notes that Karaf 4.0.9, which is the starting point is supposed to be released this weekend (colindixon, 18:39:49) * skitt notes that if 4.0.9 doesn't ship this weekend, we'll start working against our own pre-release version of Karaf 4.0.9 (colindixon, 18:40:40) * Nitrogen DDF timing (colindixon, 18:42:14) * our current release plan has 5/11 as a target, and there are other events coming around that time with OpenStack and memorial day (colindixon, 18:43:36) * phrobb earlier in the week of the 22nd (which is tight against our current release epsecially given that we current release during the OpenStack summit) and around May 31st/June 1st would be OK as well, but then it comes up against the OPNFV summit pretty quickly (colindixon, 18:44:53) * ACTION: phrobb to send mail about Nitrogen DDF timing (colindixon, 18:45:22) * jenkins queue issues (colindixon, 18:45:47) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-January/006498.html shague bring up current issues (colindixon, 18:46:39) * zxiiro is looking at using OpenStack Heat instead of JClouds, which might help (colindixon, 18:47:03) * tykeal notes that it's really just CSIT jobs that are the problem, so projects that gate on CSIT jobs are being hit hard (colindixon, 18:47:52) * a lot of discussion about CSIT jobs and how we might help to fix this (colindixon, 18:54:42) * Container Orchestration Proposal (colindixon, 18:55:40) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:COE_integration (colindixon, 18:55:52) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2016-December/000563.html proposed on 12/15 (colindixon, 18:56:01) * Prem_ presents the project for providing interfaces for OpenDaylight to be able to provide networking features for container orchestration systems, e.g., Kubernetes (colindixon, 18:59:42) * the approach is to integrate with Kubernetes CNI directly and also via Kuryr (colindixon, 19:01:49) * developers from ericsson, redhat, intel, cienna, HPE and inocybe committed (colindixon, 19:02:57) * Prem_ notes that the intent is to map everythning onto existing networking virtualization components, not create new ones, it will use existing Neutron implementations as the base (colindixon, 19:05:35) * colindixon asks if the project really needs 15 committers? Prem_ says he'll update that with something more reasable (colindixon, 19:05:58) * vishnoianil asks if it it will be in Carbon? Prem_ says they would like to be, but that's up to the TSC (colindixon, 19:06:53) * Prem_ adds that the simple integration with Kuryr is probably pretty easy to get done in Carbon (colindixon, 19:07:41) * colindixon and edwarnicke ask Prem_ if this is the right committer list? (colindixon, 19:10:18) * Prem_ notes that the large committer list is mostly because this is moving a lot of different parts and integrating them (colindixon, 19:12:02) * VOTE: Voted on "shall the TSC approve the COE project as an incubation project?" Results are, 0: 2, +1: 10 (colindixon, 19:13:19) * AGREED: CoE is an incubtion project (colindixon, 19:13:30) * cookies (colindixon, 19:13:33) Meeting ended at 19:13:35 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * anipbu * colindixon, vishnoianil, gzhao, anipbu and others to work to advertise APAC-friendly TSC calls to the India and China communities, as well as projects/PTLs in Asia * colindixon * colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way * colindixon and zxiiro to work on trying to build tools to help with what's failing on failures in our jenkins jobs * colindixon to try to drive some/all of the ongoing TSC discussions to completion * colindixon, vishnoianil, gzhao, anipbu and others to work to advertise APAC-friendly TSC calls to the India and China communities, as well as projects/PTLs in Asia * colindixon to try to close the loop with OPNFV on what they need for their next release to figure out what they actually need from us for that * phrobb * phrobb to follow up with LF folks about a TSC mixer at the Leadership Summit * colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way * phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better * phrobb to send mail about Nitrogen DDF timing * skitt * skitt and others to create a step-by-step guide and minimum required steps on th wiki * tykeal * phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better * vishnoianil * colindixon, vishnoianil, gzhao, anipbu and others to work to advertise APAC-friendly TSC calls to the India and China communities, as well as projects/PTLs in Asia * zxiiro * colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way * colindixon and zxiiro to work on trying to build tools to help with what's failing on failures in our jenkins jobs People present (lines said) --------------------------- * colindixon (87) * anipbu (16) * odl_meetbot (15) * jamoluhrsen (8) * rovarga (7) * tykeal (7) * abhijitkumbhare (6) * shague (5) * vrpolak (4) * zxiiro (4) * skitt (4) * hideyuki (3) * Prem_ (3) * edwarnicke (2) * phrobb (1) * vishnoianil (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4