17:00:12 <colindixon> #startmeeting tsc 17:00:12 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 16 17:00:12 2017 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:00:12 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:12 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:00:18 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing and roll call 17:00:21 <colindixon> #info colindixon 17:00:26 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=53276#Agenda 17:00:33 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare 17:00:41 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-03-09-17.59.html last week's meeting mintues 17:00:48 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi 17:00:50 <anipbu> #info anipbu 17:00:53 <zxiiro> #info Thanh Ha 17:01:34 <colindixon> #info vishnoianil, anipbu will followed-up wtih LACP project to clean up the committer list, it looks like it's been done 17:01:47 <colindixon> #action colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way 17:01:53 <colindixon> #action phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials 17:01:56 <hideyuki> #info Hideyuki 17:03:14 <colindixon> #info vrpolak says that the basic features for a karaf4 distribution is there, but it's missing things as basic as restconf, once that's in more project features are coming, the ETA for th RESTCONF feature is Monday 17:03:37 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez 17:03:37 <colindixon> #action colindixon will add Karaf 4 tracking as part of the weekly carbon readout 17:03:51 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen 17:04:07 <colindixon> #action phrobb to start a thread on how to have the best DDF-like developer event that works for everyone, e.g., colocated with OPNFV summit in Beijing? 17:04:49 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen, abhijitkumbhare, edwarnicke_, vishnoianil, colindixon, anipbu, zxiiro started to look into a 6 month timeframe for our release 17:05:05 <katie> carbon release tracking sheet 17:05:07 <katie> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sNscMkUl1uehVF9YF_MDs2p1tWX0is0Q_hgHiHtcQHI/edit#gid=1544647361 17:05:22 <colindixon> #action colindixon to send notes from the 6-month cadence meetings to the TSC maiing list 17:05:56 <colindixon> #topic TSC mailing list votes and discussions 17:06:06 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006577.html Nitrogen planning 17:06:27 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006581.html Namespace management 17:07:08 <rovarga> #info rovarga 17:07:17 <colindixon> #action zxiiro to write up what he understands about namespace management and commit it to docs someplace 17:07:28 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-February/006578.html projects with few/no active committers 17:07:43 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-January/009034.html flagship features in Carbon 17:07:53 <colindixon> #ink https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006695.html stricter enforcement of release requirements 17:08:02 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006696.html semantic versioning (or something like it) in Nitrogen 17:08:55 <shague> #info shague 17:09:51 <colindixon> #topic events 17:10:03 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006756.html ODL meeting at ONS 17:10:17 <colindixon> #ink https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events public events page 17:10:24 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main wiki events page 17:10:35 <colindixon> #action colindixon to add wiki events page to TSC agenda 17:11:50 <colindixon> #startvote TSC members, are you attending ONS? yes, no 17:11:50 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: TSC members, are you attending ONS? Valid vote options are yes, no. 17:11:50 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:11:53 <colindixon> #vote yes 17:11:54 <zxiiro> #vote yes 17:11:56 <hideyuki> #vote no 17:11:57 <rovarga> #vote no 17:11:59 <edwarnicke> #vote yes 17:12:01 <anipbu> #vote yes 17:12:01 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote no 17:12:02 <vishnoianil> #vote yes 17:12:02 <LuisGomez> #vote not sure yet 17:12:02 <odl_meetbot> LuisGomez: not sure yet is not a valid option. Valid options are yes, no. 17:12:04 <rovarga> (most likely no) 17:12:07 <jamoluhrsen> #vote i could 17:12:07 <odl_meetbot> jamoluhrsen: i could is not a valid option. Valid options are yes, no. 17:12:30 <edwarnicke> There will be so much attending you will be sick of attending! ;) 17:12:38 <jamoluhrsen> #vote yes 17:12:45 <LuisGomez> #vote yes 17:12:52 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote yes 17:12:54 <shague> #vote no 17:13:00 <colindixon> #endvote 17:13:00 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "TSC members, are you attending ONS?" Results are 17:13:00 <odl_meetbot> yes (8): zxiiro, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, colindixon, jamoluhrsen, anipbu, vishnoianil, abhijitkumbhare 17:13:00 <odl_meetbot> no (3): shague, hideyuki, rovarga 17:13:22 <colindixon> #info note that LuisGomez, abhijitkumbhare, jamoluhrsen are not attending ONS, but could attend a breakfast TSC meeting 17:14:04 <anipbu> +1 to moving to hawaii 17:14:42 <jamoluhrsen> 9-10? 17:14:53 <jamoluhrsen> k 17:16:54 <colindixon> #startvote should we move the Thursday 4/6 TSC call to be a breakfast meeting at ONS at 7:30-8:15 or cancel ut? breakfast, cancel 17:16:54 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: should we move the Thursday 4/6 TSC call to be a breakfast meeting at ONS at 7:30-8:15 or cancel ut? Valid vote options are breakfast, cancel. 17:16:54 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:17:15 <colindixon> #endvote 17:17:15 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "should we move the Thursday 4/6 TSC call to be a breakfast meeting at ONS at 7:30-8:15 or cancel ut?" Results are 17:18:18 <colindixon> #startvote should we move the Thursday 4/6 TSC call to be a breakfast meeting at ONS at 7:30-8:15, evening 5-6p, or cancel it? breakfast, cancel, evening 17:18:18 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: should we move the Thursday 4/6 TSC call to be a breakfast meeting at ONS at 7:30-8:15, evening 5-6p, or cancel it? Valid vote options are breakfast, cancel, evening. 17:18:18 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:18:22 <colindixon> #vote breakfast 17:18:51 <jamoluhrsen> #vote breakfast 17:18:54 <edwarnicke> #vote cancel 17:19:02 <anipbu> #vote cancel 17:19:04 <zxiiro> #vote cancel 17:19:07 <LuisGomez> #vote cancel 17:19:20 <hideyuki> #vote cancel 17:19:22 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote either way :) 17:19:22 <odl_meetbot> abhijitkumbhare: either way :) is not a valid option. Valid options are breakfast, cancel, evening. 17:19:26 <shague> is there a "fine with any option" vote 17:19:49 <colindixon> #endvote 17:19:49 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "should we move the Thursday 4/6 TSC call to be a breakfast meeting at ONS at 7:30-8:15, evening 5-6p, or cancel it?" Results are 17:19:49 <odl_meetbot> cancel (5): hideyuki, zxiiro, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, anipbu 17:19:49 <odl_meetbot> breakfast (2): colindixon, jamoluhrsen 17:20:06 <colindixon> #agreed we will cancel the Thurdsay, 4/6 TSC call because of ONS 17:22:06 <colindixon> #Info colindixon asks phrobb and CaseyODL when we wanted to have some kind of OpenDaylight group gathering to chat about interesting topics? 17:22:51 <colindixon> #info the answers as to when it might happen seems to be Tuesday or Thursday evening 17:23:07 <colindixon> #action phrobb, CaseyODL and colindixon to follow up with some kind of planning formal or informal 17:24:09 <colindixon> #Info lunch also might be an option, some uncoference time might be possible too 17:25:25 <colindixon> #info there is a DDF coming up 5/30 and 6/1, we're looking to get topics by the end of april to put up some agenda so people (mostly semi-outsiders) can decide whether to attend 17:26:20 <colindixon> #info the OPNFV summit's CFP is open until 3/27 17:26:22 <colindixon> #undo 17:26:22 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x19199d0> 17:26:31 <colindixon> #info the OPNFV summit's (Beijing in late June) CFP is open until 3/27 17:27:24 <abhijitkumbhare> whom are they conning? :) 17:27:26 <colindixon> #info the CFP for LinuxCon/ContainerCon/CloudOpen in China closes 3/18, there is a networking track there (it's the week after the OPNFV summit in Beijing) 17:28:05 <colindixon> #topic Boron 17:28:26 <colindixon> #info the cutoff for SR3 is 3/19, and the relased date is looking at 3/23 17:28:32 <colindixon> #info there are 46 open patches 17:28:43 <katie> Total 46 netvirt 16 " snmp4sdn" 2 netconf 3 dlux 3 openflowplugin 7 l2switch 1 usc 1 iotdm 2 topoprocessing 1 genius 3 sfc 1 vtc 1 ovsdb 2 docs 1 tsdr 1 aaa 1 17:29:01 <colindixon> #info from kate: "Total 46 netvirt 16 " snmp4sdn" 2 netconf 3 dlux 3 openflowplugin 7 l2switch 1 usc 1 iotdm 2 topoprocessing 1 genius 3 sfc 1 vtc 1 ovsdb 2 docs 1 tsdr 1 aaa 1" 17:29:09 <edwarnicke> This is really really good data :) 17:29:15 <edwarnicke> katie: Many thanks :) 17:29:52 <zxiiro> #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/207/ Current Boron build attempt 17:31:13 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that Boron-SR3 is the first RFC-compatible version of RESTCONF, we might want to make a bigger splash about that 17:31:19 <gzhao> katie: good work 17:31:37 <hideyuki> katie: Good work! 17:32:04 <abhijitkumbhare> +1 on good work katie 17:32:15 <colindixon> #action rovarga, phrobb, CaseyODL, and colindixon to work with marketing about maybe commenting Boron-SR3's RFC-compatible RESTCONF 17:32:24 <katie> thanks everybody :) 17:32:49 <colindixon> #info rovarga asks about if there are any blocking Boron-SR3 bugs, people say no, but we should probably ask 17:33:36 <colindixon> #info vishnoianil say that there are blocking bugs in OFP, but there are patches that will get in by sunday for it 17:34:07 <colindixon> #action katie to email the release list to ask if there are other blocking bugs and start to track them 17:34:56 <colindixon> #action colindixon, anipbu, zxiiro, and anipbu to work to generate a possible list of blocking bugs for Boron-SR3 17:35:04 <colindixon> #undo 17:35:04 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x1aeced0> 17:35:08 <colindixon> #action colindixon, katie, zxiiro, and anipbu to work to generate a possible list of blocking bugs for Boron-SR3 17:35:18 <anipbu> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=WAITING_FOR_REVIEW&f1=cf_target_milestone&f2=cf_target_milestone&j_top=OR&list_id=67733&o1=substring&o2=substring&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=Boron&v2=--- <--- Eight blocker bugs in openflowplugin, 17:35:18 <anipbu> odlparent, netvirt 17:35:32 <colindixon> #undo 17:35:32 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x1aeced0> 17:35:33 <colindixon> #undo 17:35:33 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x192f6d0> 17:35:46 <colindixon> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=WAITING_FOR_REVIEW&f1=cf_target_milestone&f2=cf_target_milestone&j_top=OR&list_id=67733&o1=substring&o2=substring&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=Boron&v2=--- <--- Eight blocker bugs in openflowplugin, odlparent, netvirt 17:36:06 <colindixon> #topic carbon 17:37:04 <colindixon> #info M3 and M4 missign reports down from 27 and 26 to 9 for each 17:37:32 <katie> snmp no resource to go on 17:37:37 <colindixon> #Info we still haven't gotten a response from SNMP except that there are no resources to work on 17:38:40 <colindixon> #info the following projets in ODL rely on SNMP: eman, tsdr, and didm, so removing it would actively hurt those projects 17:38:51 <colindixon> #info phrobb further points out that people might be using outside OpenDaylight 17:38:56 <colindixon> #undo 17:38:56 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1a001d0> 17:39:05 <colindixon> #info phrobb further points out that people might be using it outside OpenDaylight 17:39:17 <katie> vpnservice 2 inactive Merge to Netvirt sdninterfaceapp, LACP, didm 2 no change since M2 natapp 2 Not paticipate Carbon snbi 2 Not paticipate Carbon usecplugin 2 Not paticipate Carbon yangide 2 Not paticipate Carbon No response 17:39:24 <katie> other projects changes 17:41:08 <katie> "atrium capwap cardinal centinel eman next of-config opflex yang-push" 17:41:39 <zxiiro> so if they are not participating that means "natapp" and "snbi" need to be removed from autorelease/distribution? 17:41:41 <colindixon> #info vpnservice is not participating in Carbon (Merge to Netvirt) 17:41:42 <colindixon> #info sdninterfaceapp, LACP, didm have no change since M2 17:41:43 <colindixon> #info natapp, snbi, usecplugin, and yangide are not participating Carbon 17:42:18 <colindixon> #action zxiiro to remove natapp, snbi, usecplugin, vpnservice and yangide from autorelease if they aren't already 17:42:35 <colindixon> #action colindixon to remove natapp, snbi, usecplugin, vpnservice and yangide from docs if they aren't already 17:42:52 <colindixon> #action colindixon to ping ryan about aaa M4 readout 17:42:53 <katie> M4 status missing: 17:42:54 <katie> "alto atrium capwap cardinal centinel docs eman integration/distribution next of-config opflex packetcable ttp yang-push" 17:42:56 <colindixon> #undo 17:42:56 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x1aecc90> 17:43:18 <colindixon> #action colindixon to ping ryan about aaa M4 and M5 readout 17:44:00 <colindixon> #info missing M4 status from: alto atrium capwap cardinal centinel docs eman integration/distribution next of-config opflex packetcable ttp yang-push 17:44:15 <colindixon> katie: I know that ttp and docs are now in, so that may be a bit out of date 17:44:44 <anipbu> #action katiezhang to follow up with validation of M4 Status per project 17:44:54 <colindixon> #info katie validated that M4 status had correct informatin and is working to ping projects where information is pining those projects to update 17:45:07 <colindixon> #Info colindixon asks about M5 offset 0, katie says everyone but aaa is in 17:45:17 <colindixon> #info M4 offset 1 is due today 17:45:51 <katie> NetVirt Intent to seek functionality freeze waiver 17:46:15 <katie> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-March/009587.html 17:46:33 <katie> "Requesting a waiver to add a new feature to netvirt - odl-netvirt-federation [1]. It enables neutron networks to expand beyond a single OpenStack instance to allow L2 switching and L3 routing between remote sites using the federation service [2]. This feature does not introduce any API change and only add new API that is currently not consumed by any other ODL project. Complete description of the netvirt federation plugin 17:46:48 <katie> [INTENT TO CHANGE SEEK API FREEZE WAIVER] SFC MAC Chaining 17:46:56 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-March/009587.html NetVirt request to add a user facing feature to add more user-control over how things are activated, the functionality was already there 17:47:09 <katie> "Note: This email is an advisement of intent to seek a waiver of '''API FREEZE'''. The patch for this would be going to: SFC https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/52901/ The following projects have been determined to be impacted: Netvirt - Consumer GBP - Consumer No API changing code will be committed until these projects have agreed to wave API FREEZE, but Gerrits may be pushed. The following bugzilla has already 17:47:26 <colindixon> #link "Note: This email is an advisement of intent to seek a waiver of '''API FREEZE'''. The patch for this would be going to: SFC https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/52901/ The following projects have been determined to be impacted: Netvirt - Consumer GBP - Consumer No API changing code will be committed until these projects have agreed to wave API FREEZE, but Gerrits may be pushed. The following bugzilla h 17:47:27 <colindixon> already 17:48:05 <katie> "Integration/Distribution is now [0] building Karaf 4 based distribution (new URL [1], Karaf 3 is still on the old URL [2]). At the moment, the Karaf 4 distribution does not contain Restconf, and there are no csit jobs. {project}-distribution-check-carbon jobs now can access Karaf 4 features, so any open contribution got a ""recheck"" post, just to lower the small probability of breaking. Projects are welcome to add the 17:49:24 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen notes that the integration team sees migrating to Karaf 4 as a risk to the release, not critical yet, but real 17:51:20 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that sdninterfaceapp has not made any progress on getting off of their fork of bgpcep despite it being the only listed deliverable for Carbon 17:52:12 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that, in essence, the TSC has two (maybe 3 options), drop them from Carbon, leave them in Carbon, lastly maybe label them as experimental 17:53:36 <colindixon> #info rovarga notes that it's not just about copying code, but really because the promised to do this both as part of the boron release review and the carbon release plan 17:55:17 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that he's not sure what the precedent would be of saying that you can't copy properly licensed code into your repo, rovarga notes (as he put above) it's less aobut that and more about not meeting promised deliverables 17:58:05 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke asks if there are mechanically, problems with having sdninterface in the project, colindixon says no, edwarnicke asks about stoping over the same model, using the same ports, using the same models, etc. 17:59:01 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that even if the stomped on the same models, or same ports, if they said that they weren't compatible, we would still have allowed them to be here 18:01:20 <colindixon> #action colindixon to start a thread on the TSC list about what to do with sdninterfaceapp given what has happened 18:02:51 <LuisGomez> as a minimum i would like to hear from sdninterfaceapp people before voting or deciding on removing them from release. 18:02:55 <colindixon> #topic TSC membership 18:03:15 <colindixon> #info phrobb says that Lori will take Alexis's seat on the TSC 18:03:17 <anipbu> congrats lori! 18:03:30 <anipbu> thanks alexis! 18:03:36 <colindixon> congrats lori 18:03:47 <colindixon> #action colindixon to send out the mail about Lorin being the newest TSC member 18:03:47 <vina_ermagan> congrats Lori! 18:03:59 <LuisGomez> congrats lori :) 18:04:06 <vina_ermagan> congrats lori! 18:04:22 <colindixon> #undo 18:04:22 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x1ad6810> 18:04:26 <jamoluhrsen> cool lori! 18:04:27 <colindixon> #action colindixon to send out the mail about Lori being the newest TSC member 18:04:31 <lori> thanks everyone! 18:04:38 <lori> I missed the meeting 18:04:44 <colindixon> #topic cookies 18:04:44 <lori> aaargh 18:04:46 <vishnoianil> congrates lori :) 18:04:46 <jamoluhrsen> lori, now you have to be on these calls every week 18:04:49 <lori> timezone changes 18:04:54 <lori> right 18:04:56 <CaseyODL> lori: Please send me your headshot and Bio so that I can update the webpage. 18:05:10 <colindixon> #endmeeting