========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by colindixon at 03:30:45 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-03-24-03.30.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda bashing and roll call (colindixon, 03:30:50) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=53341#Agenda (colindixon, 03:30:53) * LINK: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-03-16-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes (colindixon, 03:31:05) * colindixon (colindixon, 03:31:17) * Hideyuki (hideyuki, 03:31:38) * Thanh Ha (zxiiro, 03:31:54) * Daniel Farrell (dfarrell07, 03:31:55) * jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 03:33:08) * LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 03:33:47) * Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 03:33:50) * anipbu (anipbu, 03:34:35) * ACTION: colindixon to try to find a time for an infromal meeting of ODL folks at ONS (colindixon, 03:35:12) * lori (lori, 03:36:05) * abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 03:36:21) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/sdninterfaceapp-dev/2017-March/000230.html <--- SDNINTERFACEAPP responding to concerns (anipbu, 03:37:13) * LINK: https://meetings.webex.com/collabs/meetings/join?uuid=M8U23SHB6WH2X6FIJ6CR6G8G8N-9VIB (CaseyODL, 03:37:13) * ACTION: colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way (colindixon, 03:37:41) * ACTION: phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials (colindixon, 03:37:46) * ACTION: phrobb to start a thread on how to have the best DDF-like developer event that works for everyone, e.g., colocated with OPNFV summit in Beijing? (colindixon, 03:37:56) * ACTION: katiezhang to follow up with validation of M4 Status per project (colindixon, 03:41:22) * ACTION: rovarga, phrobb, CaseyODL, and colindixon to work with marketing about maybe commenting Boron-SR3's RFC-compatible RESTCONF (colindixon, 03:41:42) * TSC mailing list votes and discussions (colindixon, 03:42:57) * see the agenda, but most of this stuff is either old, or come to conclusion (colindixon, 03:43:07) * events (colindixon, 03:43:11) * LINK: https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events (colindixon, 03:43:20) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main (colindixon, 03:43:31) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006756.html possible get together for ODL folks at ONS (colindixon, 03:43:51) * LINK: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/PGXT5PX open source community reception on Monday @ 6p RSVP (colindixon, 03:44:51) * jamoluhrsen asks about trying cross-project relaase syncing, colindixon says ChrisPriceAB is trying to set something up, if you want to participate, let him know (colindixon, 03:45:54) * OpenStack Boston is 2nd week of May (colindixon, 03:46:40) * we will have a booth there, looking for demos (colindixon, 03:46:53) * LINK: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/opnfv-summit/program/cfp CFP OPNFV (dfarrell07, 03:47:30) * boron (colindixon, 03:48:44) * Boron-SR3 is supposed to go out today, that's not going to happen (colindixon, 03:48:56) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zImtd764e-hOgJAxoJKl85fxHCPu2agLfqsBtf13zQY/edit#gid=1776065453 tracking spreadsheet (colindixon, 03:49:06) * LINK: https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/219/ this is the respin which literally just finished (colindixon, 03:49:46) * distribution test job should start now-ish and take 8-9 hours, we should have better data tomorrow morning (colindixon, 03:50:41) * it's worht noting that since we've moved a lot more tests into distribution test jobs, resulting in 113 failures vs. 11 for SR2 (colindixon, 03:51:47) * shague notes that we really want to keep anipbu's basic release strategy of tracking test failures, votes on go-nogo (traditionally for major release only, SRs is only test failures), tracking blocking bugs, respins, etc. (colindixon, 03:52:59) * shague wants to make sure we continue to get dist test results on the spreadsheet, actually track down projects and get them to sign-off/fix (dfarrell07, 03:54:52) * jamoluhrsen says that all system tests are run as part of distribution test now vs. only opt-in before (colindixon, 03:55:23) * shague wants to make sure we track bockers that will require respin, trigger re-spins quickly when needed (dfarrell07, 03:56:08) * ACTION: jamoluhrsen to add a new status type for jobs that integration opted-in without project effort, so we know which ones might have no response because of that (colindixon, 03:57:01) * colindixon hopes we'll have something we could release for Boron-SR3 by monday sometime, people should be ready to vote over e-mail on Monday (colindixon, 03:58:29) * carbon (colindixon, 03:58:48) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VcB12FBiFV4GAEHZSspHBNxKI_9XugJp-6Qbbw20Omk/edit#gid=31712896 Karaf 4 progress (colindixon, 04:00:12) * 28 projects have finished karaf 4, 7 projects have pending patches, and 16 projeects with no patches (colindixon, 04:00:50) * that's a bit over half or projects done (colindixon, 04:01:00) * anipbu notes that this puts karaf 4 migration in an unhealthy state (colindixon, 04:01:12) * colindixon notes that, in his mind and others, this means we're either likely to kick a large number offset 2 projects out of carbon, or have people volunteer to help (colindixon, 04:02:18) * jamoluhrsen notes that doing patches for people, might further enable bad behavior (colindixon, 04:02:44) * ACTION: colindixon or katie to send out nastygrams about being removed from the release (colindixon, 04:03:57) * jamoluhrsen and dfarrell07 say that one idea is to have true leaves participate in the release as a privilege, not a right, basically then show them how to do releases, repo:add, feature:install (colindixon, 04:06:07) * ACTION: colindixon to try to either find people to document how to be compatible with an OpenDaylight release with participating in the OpenDaylight simultaneous release (colindixon, 04:11:18) * phrobb asks if we'll host these artifacts and instructions, colindixon says for things hosted in ODL infra we should host them, for others, it's a good question, phrobb notes that if it's a wiki page there's nothing to stop others from also adding it (colindixon, 04:13:23) * LuisGomez notes that some things change with testing too, and offers to help some (colindixon, 04:14:07) * vishnoianil notes that he worries a bit that this may result in nobody participating in the simultaneous release (colindixon, 04:15:36) * LINK: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/53664/2 carbon autorelease is failing because of sal-netconf-connector, colindixon isn't sure why (colindixon, 04:17:28) * system integration and test (colindixon, 04:17:42) * vrpolak noteed that Karaf 4 for distribiton now has restconf, so he's working on the distribution test for that (colindixon, 04:18:09) * there was a recent controller regression as far as clustering goes, there's a new patch merged which seems to have gotten things back to normal (colindixon, 04:18:38) * jamoluhrsen notes that it took 2 days to get a response and it hurt our jenkins queue (colindixon, 04:19:18) * ACTION: colindixon to create postmortem topics for Carbon and add the clustering breakage to it (colindixon, 04:19:34) * infrastructure (colindixon, 04:19:53) * nothing this week (colindixon, 04:20:02) * abelur is on the call because this call is at a time that works for him (colindixon, 04:20:34) * TSC membership (colindixon, 04:21:41) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006813.html language for filling vacancies (colindixon, 04:21:54) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006822.html 8 +1s or more (colindixon, 04:22:03) * phrobb and/or colindixon will take this to the board either over e-mail or at the next meeting (colindixon, 04:22:20) * the next board meeting is 4/12 (colindixon, 04:22:51) * Nitrogen planning (colindixon, 04:22:53) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006779.html Preliminary notes on 6-month release cadence (colindixon, 04:23:08) * LINK: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-March/006849.html proposal for month-based release schedule (colindixon, 04:23:20) * jamoluhrsen says he likes this, he wants to stress lining up, jamoluhrsen also asks about lining up with all or (almost all) other LF networking projects (colindixon, 04:27:33) * dfarrell07 notes that OPNFV tries to line up with OpenStack, colindixon notes OpenStack has moved away from April and October (for the last 5 years), to releasing in Feb this last time and planning on Setpebmer (colindixon, 04:28:53) * colindixon worries if that means they're nota good reliable clock (colindixon, 04:29:02) * phrobb says lining up inside the LF seems like good goal (colindixon, 04:29:23) * colindixon says the best way forward is probably to produce a clump and try to get others to join (colindixon, 04:30:04) * maybe start FD.io, ODL, and OPNFV, then hope ONAP choose to align, that would be a big center of mass (colindixon, 04:30:33) * cookies (colindixon, 04:30:53) Meeting ended at 04:31:02 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * CaseyODL * rovarga, phrobb, CaseyODL, and colindixon to work with marketing about maybe commenting Boron-SR3's RFC-compatible RESTCONF * colindixon * colindixon to try to find a time for an infromal meeting of ODL folks at ONS * colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way * rovarga, phrobb, CaseyODL, and colindixon to work with marketing about maybe commenting Boron-SR3's RFC-compatible RESTCONF * colindixon or katie to send out nastygrams about being removed from the release * colindixon to try to either find people to document how to be compatible with an OpenDaylight release with participating in the OpenDaylight simultaneous release * colindixon to create postmortem topics for Carbon and add the clustering breakage to it * jamoluhrsen * jamoluhrsen to add a new status type for jobs that integration opted-in without project effort, so we know which ones might have no response because of that * zxiiro * colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way * **UNASSIGNED** * phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials * phrobb to start a thread on how to have the best DDF-like developer event that works for everyone, e.g., colocated with OPNFV summit in Beijing? * katiezhang to follow up with validation of M4 Status per project People present (lines said) --------------------------- * colindixon (84) * lori (13) * jamoluhrsen (10) * dfarrell07 (8) * CaseyODL (5) * odl_meetbot (4) * anipbu (3) * abhijitkumbhare (3) * LuisGomez (2) * zxiiro (2) * vrpolak (1) * hideyuki (1) * abelur (1) * vishnoianil (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4