03:30:54 #startmeeting tsc 03:30:54 Meeting started Fri Apr 28 03:30:54 2017 UTC. The chair is dfarrell07. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 03:30:54 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 03:30:54 The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 03:30:59 #chair colindixon 03:30:59 Current chairs: colindixon dfarrell07 03:31:33 #chair phrobb anipbu CaseyODL jamoluhrsen LuisGomez 03:31:33 Current chairs: CaseyODL LuisGomez anipbu colindixon dfarrell07 jamoluhrsen phrobb 03:31:43 hey 03:31:44 #info jamoluhrsen 03:31:45 #topic agenda bashing and roll call 03:31:46 TSC members please #info in 03:31:46 #info colindixon 03:31:48 #info Andrew Grimberg proxy for Thanh Ha 03:31:57 #info Daniel Farrell for Sam Hague 03:32:38 #info lori 03:32:48 #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-01-05-18.04.html last week's meetin minutes 03:32:59 #info LuisGomez 03:33:05 #Link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=54302#Agenda agnda for this week 03:33:18 #action colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way 03:33:19 #action phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials 03:33:20 #action colindixon to try to either find people to document how to be compatible with an OpenDaylight release with participating in the OpenDaylight simultaneous release 03:33:21 #action colindixon to work with zxiiro, anipbu, and others to try to help work with projects to generate the patches to populate karaf 4 features 03:33:29 #link colindixon created postmortem topics for Carbon and added the clustering breakage to it https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Carbon_Release_Plan#Lessons_learned_during_the_Carbon_release 03:33:30 #info we will remember to question SNMP when/if it seeks to participate in Nitrogen 03:33:31 #info colindixon has made sure people have been told that their release reviews will start once we have some RCs to have tested 03:33:32 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8265 it appears as though autorelease-carbon failing to create staging repositories was due to either (1) something very strange about tsdr or cardinal or (2) something about our current tests 03:33:33 #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-01-05-18.04.html see 5.p for where the TSC agreed to make Karaf 4 a requirement for Carbon on 1/5/17 03:35:01 so colindixon's voice sounds much different in zoom. not sure if I like it better or worse 03:35:11 :) 03:35:29 colindixon: you're going to need to start the recording... 03:35:38 o/ 03:35:48 katiezhang to follow up with validation of M4 and M5 Status per project 03:36:23 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sNscMkUl1uehVF9YF_MDs2p1tWX0is0Q_hgHiHtcQHI/edit#gid=1793320165 03:37:58 #info abhijitkumbhare 03:37:58 #action katiezhang to follow up with validation of M4 and M5 Status per project here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sNscMkUl1uehVF9YF_MDs2p1tWX0is0Q_hgHiHtcQHI/edit#gid=1793320165 03:38:12 #info we do have the security team on the agend for today 03:39:42 #info jamoluhrsen ran one AAA CSIT against the artifacts that came out of the sandbox job, and that worked 2 of 3 times 03:40:27 do we have quorum? 03:40:41 #info Anil Vishnoi 03:40:43 7 03:40:44 8 03:41:05 #topic events 03:41:08 #Link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events 03:41:08 #Link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main 03:41:15 #info hopefully we'll be done releasing carbon by the DDF on 5/31 03:41:26 glass half empty ? 03:41:36 fully empty :) 03:41:41 lol 03:42:05 #topic boron 03:42:12 #info nothing this week 03:42:30 #topic infrastructure 03:43:09 #link we will have a maintainance window on Saturday https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-April/010435.html critical security fixes 03:43:23 #Info tykeal says that he hopes it should be fast, but it's 3-hours 03:43:42 #topic Carbon 03:44:02 #Link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VcB12FBiFV4GAEHZSspHBNxKI_9XugJp-6Qbbw20Omk/edit#gid=921315511 this is the blocking bugs part of the one big spreadsheet 03:44:16 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VcB12FBiFV4GAEHZSspHBNxKI_9XugJp-6Qbbw20Omk/edit#gid=31712896 karaf 4 progress in the same spreadsheet 03:44:44 #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-carbon/ last succsessful autoreleas was last week (7d7h ago) 03:45:33 #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/sandbox/job/autorelease-release-notests-carbon/ we have a skiptest autorelease job in the sandbox, that hopefully abelur will move to regular autorelese, that does produce artifacts 03:46:08 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8322 this bug is tracking our woes with autorelease 03:47:06 jamoluhrsen: that hand raised in the participants window is funny 03:47:27 tykeal, i dont see it 03:47:54 jamoluhrsen: probably because you raised your hand? I see the icon just went away 03:51:43 #info colindixon goes on a long tirade about how to progress from here, which boils down to BUGs 8322 to 8325 03:51:55 that is something we don't know. 03:52:03 are projects ignoring their own UT failures? 03:52:20 jamoluhrsen: we've had a few projects that were doing manual Verify +1 03:52:23 not many 03:54:01 #info colindixon and LuisGomez say that ignoring unit tests failures in autorelease, is probably relatively safe since most (hopefully all) projecst will be checking for their own unit test failures 03:54:32 https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/Merge-Carbon/ 03:54:39 #Link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/Merge-Carbon/ this is a good link to see if unit tests are failing in projects 03:55:36 well that means autorelease alone is where this stuff is failing :( 03:55:52 #Info we can see there that merge jobs are not failing, so it's special about autorelease that things are failing 03:58:24 #Info abelur says he's noticed high memory usage, now including sar files in artifacts so we can look at it 03:58:44 #info colindixon notes that expeting projects to look there won't happen, we will need to find particular culprits 03:59:30 #topic (really a subtopic of carbon) karaf distributino testing and CSIT stuff 04:00:04 #info we removed all features from the karaf4 distribution because the distribution-check job was taking way too long 04:00:32 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7900 bug 7900 fixed that, so we should be able to add features back 04:01:03 #info vrpolak notes that for most projects that now means we can make progress, but some projects being added will break things again 04:01:20 #action vrpolak can you please mark the bugs against projects as blockers 04:02:10 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7891 <-- Things to fix in Netconf. 04:03:26 #Info the lifecycle management in karaf 4 is different from karaf 3 and that is causing us issues 04:03:55 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/56147 <-- An example of Karaf 4 feature fix. 04:03:57 #info LuisGomez, vrpolak, and jamoluhrsen note that we might need to have some pretty wide-ranging changes across projects to fix things related to that 04:04:40 lol 04:04:45 #info colindixon would like to note that vrpolak actually knows what he's talking about here, unlike jamoluhrsen and colindixon 04:07:06 #info abhijitkumbhare asks if there's light at the end of the tunnel, colindixon says it's basically that things seem to actually work once you get a distribution, so things are likely much better than it appears and most things are false positives 04:08:51 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/56100 <-- Opt-in way to test Carbon Karaf 4 once a feature repo is in distribution (before abandoning Carbon Karaf 3 test). 04:10:04 #info colindixon notes that if things were really all on fire all over the place, we wouldn't see projects able to test with local distributions and we'd see merge failures and CSIT was also broken 04:10:41 #info abelur notes that he's already on BUG-8323 (with -DskipTests) and BUG-8324 (with -fn) 04:12:12 jamoluhrsen: I see your raised hand again - and as tykeal noted it does look funny :) 04:14:17 #info abelur notes that -fn might not be as useful as we hope, colindixon agrees, but maybe hopes it will flush out some of our failures 04:15:04 #topic (really a sub-topic of carbon) karaf 4 features into int/dist 04:15:27 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-April/010444.html 04:16:05 #info it seems as though the integration team, e.g., jamoluhrsen, vrpolak, LuisGomez and others are going to be adding karaf 4 features to integration/distribution rather than relying on projects 04:16:14 The next big thing we need to make work in Karaf 4 is netconf-connector. Many projects use that to reconfigure ODL in CSIT. 04:16:32 #info this will start tomorrow, probably hopefully 04:16:40 #info vrpolak_ notes that The next big thing we need to make work in Karaf 4 is netconf-connector. Many projects use that to reconfigure ODL in CSIT 04:17:23 #Link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/56036/ colindixon thinks we can merge this now 04:17:58 abhijitkumbhare, dint realize we need to raise hands before interrupting :) 04:18:20 #topic security team 04:18:27 Yes - other teacher colindixon will be mad :) 04:18:40 s/other/otherwise 04:19:36 #info we'll cover this again next week because rovarga is the biggest person who wants this covered 04:20:21 do a “lower hand” jamoluhrsen 04:21:04 #info basically, we don't have enough spare cycles from people on the security team, which is basically edwarnicke, cdub, rovarga, rgoulding, and a few people who only basically file CVEs now (David Jorm, Kurt Seifreid, and Summer Long) 04:22:19 #info if there are people who would like to help, we are currently deeply in need of extra cycles handing security-related things and vulnerability reports 04:22:39 #info we are handling things, but help would be good 04:24:13 #topic cookies 04:24:19 thanks colindixon ! 04:24:25 #endmeeting