17:00:47 #startmeeting tsc 17:00:47 Meeting started Thu Jun 15 17:00:47 2017 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:00:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:47 The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:00:52 #topic roll call and agenda bashing 17:01:17 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=57619#Agenda agenda 17:01:38 #info rovarga 17:01:39 #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-06-08-17.00.html last week's meeting minutes 17:01:41 #info anipbu 17:01:43 #info colindixon 17:01:47 TSC members please #info in 17:02:07 #action phrobb to bring the need for a security manager to the board 17:02:08 #action phrobb to float the idea of hiring a Karaf consultant to the board 17:02:09 #action colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way 17:02:10 #action phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials 17:02:11 #action colindixon to look to see if any current security response team members would like to voluntarily step down for any reason 17:02:27 #info Hideyuki 17:02:29 #info lori 17:02:48 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007505.html release manager job description from anipbu and colindixon 17:02:50 #info edwarnicke 17:02:57 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8698 is a bug to track off-cycle release tools and docs 17:03:12 #info it seems like the TSC meeting invites are correct now 17:03:32 #info the board has asked for us to bering the TSC replacement language to the board again after some of the harmonization efforts have progressed 17:04:55 #info shague 17:05:28 #info LuisGomez 17:06:05 #info we will add a TCP-MD5 termination review 17:06:16 #info jamoluhrsen 17:06:20 #topic TSC mailing list votes and discussions 17:06:23 #info Thanh 17:06:34 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007485.html Dhruv Bhardwaj and Cedric Ollivier are now commiters on transport PCE 17:06:50 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007487.html Michal Rehak is now an ODL SXP commiter 17:07:02 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007505.html release manager job description 17:07:20 #info for the above, we need volunteers to take that on, so please chim in if you're interested 17:07:55 and it's fun! =) 17:08:15 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007507.html meetings at constant UTC offset vs. shifting with DST? 17:09:18 https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007509.html 17:11:14 #link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country a surprising number of countries do not care about DST 17:11:24 rovarga: I believe you :) 17:11:30 #starvote shall we make the APAC-time zone TSC call on the Fourth Thursday of each month at 0330 UTC time (7:30p or 8:30p pacfic) instead fo varying with US DST because it appears India, China and Japan don't have DST? -1,0,+1 17:11:35 rovarga: I personally don't like DST 17:11:35 #startvote shall we make the APAC-time zone TSC call on the Fourth Thursday of each month at 0330 UTC time (7:30p or 8:30p pacfic) instead fo varying with US DST because it appears India, China and Japan don't have DST? -1,0,+1 17:11:35 Begin voting on: shall we make the APAC-time zone TSC call on the Fourth Thursday of each month at 0330 UTC time (7:30p or 8:30p pacfic) instead fo varying with US DST because it appears India, China and Japan don't have DST? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:11:35 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:11:39 #vote +1 17:11:40 #vote +1 17:11:43 #vote +1 17:11:44 #vote +1 17:11:45 #vote +1 17:11:46 #vote +1 17:11:46 #vote +1 17:11:47 #vote +1 17:11:51 #vote +1 17:12:12 #endvote 17:12:12 Voted on "shall we make the APAC-time zone TSC call on the Fourth Thursday of each month at 0330 UTC time (7:30p or 8:30p pacfic) instead fo varying with US DST because it appears India, China and Japan don't have DST?" Results are 17:12:12 +1 (9): rovarga, zxiiro, edwarnicke, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, lori, jamoluhrsen, anipbu 17:12:21 edwarnicke: yeah, I can't wait for an EU directive terminating this anachronism in this neck of the woods :) 17:12:33 rovarga: :) 17:12:40 #agreed the APAC-time zone TSC call wiill be on the Fourth Thursday of each month at 0330 UTC time (7:30p or 8:30p pacfic) instead fo varying with US DST because it appears India, China and Japan don't have DST 17:12:46 rovarga: +1 17:13:29 #topic events 17:13:50 #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events 17:13:51 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main 17:14:09 #Info OPFNV summit is going on as we speak in Beijing (or just closing down as it's 1a on Friday morning) 17:14:28 #info linuxcon china is next week also there 17:14:52 #topic boron 17:15:10 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Boron/SR4/Status <--- We initially targeted Boron SR4 Release on 6/15, but our latest build has blocker bugs in NETVIRT and we are waiting to finish respinning Boron SR4. 17:15:24 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8696 <--- NETVIRT Blocker Bug 17:15:30 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/59002/ <--- Patch Fixing NETVIRT Blocker Bug 17:15:37 #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/autorelease/job/autorelease-release-boron/306/ <--- We are respinning Boron SR4. 17:17:41 #topic carbon 17:17:46 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Carbon_Release_Plan#Schedule <--- We are three weeks away from Carbon SR1 on July 6. 17:18:01 it's better to say 2 weeks 17:18:05 for carbon sr1 17:18:09 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-June/011238.html <--- Autorelease carbon failed to build sal-distributed-datastore from controller 17:18:31 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VcB12FBiFV4GAEHZSspHBNxKI_9XugJp-6Qbbw20Omk/edit#gid=1746681968 <--- We are waiting on 3 projects to revise or submit Carbon Release Notes: packetable, next, dlux. 17:18:58 #info We kindly inform projects we are not running SFT in Carbon build. We plan to disable the Karaf 4 SFT in Carbon ODLPARENT. 17:22:39 #topic nitrogen 17:22:44 #chair CaseyODL phrobb anipbu 17:22:44 Current chairs: CaseyODL anipbu colindixon phrobb 17:22:49 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/topic:odlparent-1.9.0 <--- We are bumping all Nitrogen projects to ODLPARENT version 1.9.0. Pending: sdninterfaceapp, bier, snmp4sdn, nic, bgpcep, netv 17:23:12 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-June/011237.html <--- We are removing Karaf 3 from the Nitrogen Integration Distribution. 17:23:24 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/58820/ <--- We have removed all nonoffset0 projects from the Nitrogen Integration Distribution. 17:23:39 #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/58992/ <--- We have added infrautils back into autorelease. 17:23:46 #info We plan on adding Nitrogen Integration Distribution back into autorelease this week to generate a test build. 17:23:58 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Nitrogen/Karaf <--- Nitrogen Karaf 4 Status 17:24:03 #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MYyGLFWN2RzUkJl8XMzXQ-3zWuOrUCQpIS6ORbmf4_U/edit#gid=1274532933 <--- Nitrogen Karaf 4 Tracking 17:24:10 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/File:TWS-2017-06-12.mp4 <--- TWS Session on Monday 6/12/2017 to discuss Nitrogen Karaf 4 Project Action Items 17:24:27 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-June/011221.html <--- Karaf 4 Schedule 17:24:36 #info Plan of Action This Week: all projects build and test local karaf 4 distribution and identify blocker bugs 17:25:01 #info Plan of Action Next Week: release odlparent version 2.0.0, all projects migrate to odlparent version 2.0.0, all projects add karat 4 features to integration distribution 17:25:34 #info Anil Vishnoi 17:25:58 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Nitrogen/Karaf#Nitrogen_Project_Requirements <--- 3 Nitrogen Project Requirements for Karaf 4 17:26:29 #info NOTICE: Expected breakages expected in the next two weeks 17:26:50 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8638 <--- Karaf 4 Related Blocker Bugs (NETVIRT): Karaf4 specific problems seen on boot and during manual & CSIT testing of netvirt distribution 17:27:05 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8694 <--- Karaf 4 Related Blocker Bugs (OPENFLOWPLUGIN): Karaf 4 openflowplugin "not working" (title to be refined as more is found out) 17:27:14 #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8571 <--- Karaf 4 Related Blocker Bugs (ODLPARENT): karaf4-parent does not include files from src/main/assembly. This is critical for 3 nodes system test. 17:27:32 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-June/011222.html <--- Need to make a decision on featuresBoot or not featuresBoot 17:35:33 #info there is a long disussion about whether we can use feature:install or featuresBoot only and not both 17:35:49 #Info they use different code paths in Karaf to load them 17:36:51 #Info thus they may expose different sharp corners and possibly different bugs between ODL and Karaf 17:37:54 #info if we that to choose one to eliminate in the meantime to try to reduce testing overhead, it would be feautresBoot today 17:38:06 #info in the long run, we would really like both to work 17:39:55 #info edwarnicke says that it might make sense to take a confd-style appaoch in Karaf that would help us, maybe we should consider putting a direcotry with files that say what feautres to load as a plug-in to Karaf 17:40:16 #Info then if we did this since it would be new, we could then have it use the same code path as feaure:install at the CLI 17:41:08 stephen is pto 17:41:49 #action colindixon to file an upstream bug with Karaf around featureBoot install not working if we don't have one yet 17:43:59 #topic system integration and test 17:44:03 #info nothing this week other than than what's above 17:44:07 #topic infrastructure 17:44:32 #info this past weekend we had jenkins outage because of a batter issue, it came back up 17:45:07 #info we had an SSL cert expiring on monday, but we have a temporary fix, we're are enabling auto-renewal for let's encrypt so it won't happen in the future 17:47:11 #topic TCP-MD4 termination review 17:47:30 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2016-August/005894.html 17:47:36 8/4/2016 17:47:49 #info a million years ago, we had a termination review for TCP-MD5 in which we put it off until Carbon was released and Beryllium was thus truly EoLed becuase TCP-MD5 was in Beryllium 17:47:53 #Info we're now there 17:48:41 #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TCPMD5:Termination_Proposal the proposal itself 17:49:50 https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2016/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2016-09-08-17.00.html 17:50:02 #startvote shall the TSC archive TCP-MD5 project? -1,0,+1 17:50:02 Begin voting on: shall the TSC archive TCP-MD5 project? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:50:02 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:50:04 #vote +1 17:50:05 #vote +1 17:50:07 #vote +1 17:50:08 #vote +1 17:50:09 #vote +1 17:50:11 #vote +1 17:50:14 #vote +1 17:50:23 #vote +1 17:50:25 #vote +1 17:50:27 #vote +12 17:50:27 lori: +12 is not a valid option. Valid options are -1, 0, +1. 17:50:30 #vote +1 17:50:34 #endvote 17:50:34 Voted on "shall the TSC archive TCP-MD5 project?" Results are 17:50:34 +1 (10): rovarga, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, lori, jamoluhrsen, anipbu, vishnoianil 17:50:44 #agreed the TCP-MD5 project has been archived 17:50:44 #vote +1 17:50:53 #topic other project archives 17:51:21 #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007493.html we should follow up with these archivals as well 17:52:01 #action colindixon should reach out to projects and see if we can't archive some of them 17:52:28 #topic liblldp 17:52:51 #Info this is currently housed in the controller, but something like 4 other projects are using the jar directly 17:53:19 #Info rovarga woudl like to take it out of the controller and put it into another project and/or make it it's own project 17:53:40 #info currently used by openflowplugin, genius, l2switch and something else 17:53:41 #info genius, netvirt and ofp each spell it out in their features. 17:54:24 #Link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/netconf-dev/2017-June/001179.html 17:55:00 #action rovarga to reach out to the project that use it and ask 17:56:02 #topic merging patches on inactive proejcts 17:56:12 #info shague asking if we can auto-merge patches for things like federation 17:56:40 #action colindixon to reach out to gidi to try to get them merged and maybe mint new committers 17:58:57 #topic cookies 17:59:02 #endmeeting