17:04:40 <CaseyODL> #startmeeting tsc 17:04:40 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 6 17:04:40 2017 UTC. The chair is CaseyODL. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:04:40 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:04:40 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:04:40 <odl_meetbot> skitt: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 17:04:57 <CaseyODL> #chair phrobb anipbu 17:04:57 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL anipbu phrobb 17:05:58 <CaseyODL> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda TSC Agenda 17:06:07 <CaseyODL> #topic Agenda bashing 17:06:36 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez 17:06:42 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen 17:06:46 <skitt> #info skitt 17:06:54 <anipbu> #info anipbu 17:06:56 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez for Abhijit too 17:06:58 <jamoluhrsen> LuisGomez, wait, the meeting isn't started 17:07:14 <LuisGomez> it has 17:07:24 <zxiiro> #info Thanh 17:07:27 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke 17:07:37 <rovarga> #vote rovarga 17:07:43 <rovarga> #info rovarga 17:07:44 <rovarga> :) 17:07:46 <huan> #info huan 17:07:48 <jamoluhrsen> :) 17:09:39 <jamoluhrsen> #topic release manager 17:09:46 <CaseyODL> #chair jamoluhrsen 17:09:46 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL anipbu jamoluhrsen phrobb 17:09:58 <skitt> jamoluhrsen, you need to do that again 17:10:07 <CaseyODL> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007505.html Release manager discussion 17:10:07 <jamoluhrsen> #topic release manager 17:10:09 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi 17:10:19 <skitt> the minutes are going to be interesting ;-) 17:10:23 <vishnoianil> is colin not joining today? I thought he was planning to stay around for some more time :-) 17:10:37 <jamoluhrsen> #info we need to find a new release manager, but no volunteers as of yet 17:10:39 <LuisGomez> he is in pto 17:11:24 <vishnoianil> oh okay. 17:11:56 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen asks if there is a way to dedicate a resource from the LF. release manager is a vital position that would be tough to live without 17:12:07 <edwarnicke> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/IRC 17:13:18 <jamoluhrsen> #info this topic has been escalated to the board, but not all companies are represented on the board 17:14:53 <jamoluhrsen> #info it could be best if the board itself could reach out to all the member companies asking for a dedicated release manager 17:15:49 <jamoluhrsen> #action CaseyODL to add this release manager position be made a priority for the next board meeting 17:17:11 <jamoluhrsen> #topic future DDF 17:17:14 <CaseyODL> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007506.html Discussion regarding the Future DDFs. 17:18:22 <jamoluhrsen> #info a poll was created to try to determine the reasons people do or do not come to DDF in order to better plan future DDFs. only 24 responses so far, so we'll wait another week 17:19:17 <CaseyODL> #link https://goo.gl/forms/1aho8rZy8WAqVNyN2 Link to DDF Poll. 17:20:43 <jamoluhrsen> #info rovarga suggests the poll go to other dev lists (e.g. controller) and wait until the end of the month before looking at results 17:21:48 <jamoluhrsen> #topic carbon support status 17:22:02 <CaseyODL> #link http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_b61348bdd2b0c06d Vote results for Carbon Support 17:23:01 <jamoluhrsen> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-July/007638.html <-- email vote from LuisGomez anipbu skitt 17:23:59 <LuisGomez> jamoluhrsen, i voted in the tool 17:24:14 <jamoluhrsen> LuisGomez, what tool? 17:24:37 <zxiiro> huan: Do you have an opinion on https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-July/007638.html 17:24:39 <LuisGomez> the CIVS 17:24:48 <jamoluhrsen> LuisGomez, that is for the ddf 17:24:59 <jamoluhrsen> this is for carbon support 17:25:05 <huan> i will vote for 12/15 17:25:13 <jamoluhrsen> LuisGomez, ignore me. 17:25:15 <jamoluhrsen> :) 17:25:36 <jamoluhrsen> #info huan has voted 12/15 for carbon support 17:25:44 <skitt> which is actually 9/15 17:25:44 <CaseyODL> #info huan votes for Release-based skipping Nitrogen, have Carbon get 9 months of bug fixes (until Oxygen is released on or about March 7th, 2018) and 15 months of security fixes (until Fluorine is release on or about September 7th, 2018) 17:25:53 <skitt> it's all Colin's fault 17:26:01 <rovarga> as usual :-D 17:26:04 <skitt> heh 17:26:14 <skitt> the two rules of TSC are 17:26:17 <skitt> vote for rovarga 17:26:22 <CaseyODL> #agree The TSC shall support Carbon for 9 months of bug fixes and 15 months of security fixes. 17:26:22 <skitt> and it's all colindixon's fault 17:26:24 <rovarga> skitt: :-D 17:26:43 <jamoluhrsen> #topic events 17:27:30 <jamoluhrsen> i missed the date/name of this cablelabs event if someone can put it in the notes 17:27:53 <jamoluhrsen> #info opensource summit NA and europe all coming soon 17:28:22 <jamoluhrsen> #action CaseyODL to send an email about cablelabs event, or at least get it on the wiki 17:28:31 <CaseyODL> #link http://www.cablelabs.com/event/summer-conference-2017/ CableLabs Event 17:28:54 <jamoluhrsen> #topic carbon 17:28:59 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Carbon/SR1/Status <— We initially targeted Carbon SR1 Release on 7/6, but we had to respin a new build to incorporate fixes in for blocker bugs in NETVIRT. 17:29:14 <anipbu> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8793 <— Blocker Bug in Carbon SR1 in NETVIRT: Many Null Pointer Exceptions for NAT and ACL Services seen on Carbon CSIT runs 17:29:28 <jamoluhrsen> third rule of tsc. netvirt always blocks the release 17:29:30 <anipbu> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8805 <— Cluster member gets in bad state if 2 instances disconnect just after the 3rd is recovered 17:29:50 <huan> haha 17:29:56 <jamoluhrsen> #topic nitrogen 17:30:05 <anipbu> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/59718/ <- Plans to release ODLPARENT 2.0.2 17:30:17 <anipbu> #info Not all projects have to migrate to ODLPARENT 2.0.2. 17:30:50 <anipbu> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MYyGLFWN2RzUkJl8XMzXQ-3zWuOrUCQpIS6ORbmf4_U/edit#gid=188095956 <- We have successfully add all Kernel projects to Nitrogen Autorelease and Kernel projects have successfully migrated to Karaf 4 17:30:56 <rovarga> skitt: are you sure the above is true? 17:31:19 <skitt> rovarga, pretty sure, we only need aaa and netconf on 2.0.1 for bouncycastle, and int/dist on 2.0.2 for the karaf scripts stuff 17:31:21 <rovarga> features have versions -- will it not conflict? 17:31:32 <anipbu> #info We are only one week behind in Karaf 4 Migration 17:31:57 <skitt> rovarga, they shouldn't since odlparent versions are still within the same major 17:32:15 <skitt> rovarga, I'll test that in detail tomorrow 17:32:19 <rovarga> but they are referenced in downstream features, won't they reinstall things? 17:33:09 <rovarga> notebly odl-netty-4 17:36:07 <jamoluhrsen> #info we still need to confirm if all projects need to be on odlparent 2.0.2 or if we can have a mix of versions 2.0.x 17:36:11 <skitt> rovarga, the refreshes are actually decided at the bundle level, not the feature level 17:36:28 <skitt> rovarga, so since all the feature versions contain the same bundles currently, apart from bouncycastle... 17:36:51 <skitt> rovarga, we should be OK 17:37:36 <rovarga> skitt: right, but if netconf's feature requires odl-netty-4-2.0.2 and bgpcep's requires odl-netty-4-2.0.1, will concurrent feature:install work ? 17:37:42 <jamoluhrsen> #info if all projects must be on 2.0.2, we can ask projects to opt-in for an auto version bump 17:38:02 <jamoluhrsen> #info projects not in int/dist by m5 (1 month from now) will not be in the nitrogen release 17:38:08 <rovarga> I mean feature:install odl-restconf odl-bgpcep-bgp-all (or whatever the names are) 17:38:14 <jamoluhrsen> #topic infrastructure 17:38:16 <skitt> rovarga, that's what I need to check tomorrow 17:38:19 <jamoluhrsen> #info no updates 17:38:25 <skitt> rovarga, it should be OK because all the features will resolve to the same bundles 17:38:28 <jamoluhrsen> #topic int/test 17:38:32 <jamoluhrsen> #info no updates 17:40:06 <jamoluhrsen> #topic security mailing list 17:41:31 <skitt> #link security wiki https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Security:Main 17:41:40 <skitt> #action skitt to update the security wiki 17:41:58 <skitt> that's the page that says "on ... the TSC added ..." 17:43:13 <anipbu> #startvote shall the TSC add skitt as a member of the security response team? -1,0,+1 17:43:13 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC add skitt as a member of the security response team? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:43:13 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:43:57 <rovarga> #note +1 17:43:59 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 17:44:01 <zxiiro> #vote +1 17:44:01 <anipbu> #vote +1 17:44:04 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 17:44:06 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1 17:44:06 <rovarga> #vote +1 17:44:08 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 17:44:29 <skitt> #vote +1 17:44:32 <skitt> ;-) 17:44:35 <rovarga> :-D 17:44:39 <CaseyODL> huan: Can you vote please? 17:44:42 <anipbu> ping huan 17:44:48 <skitt> and we can add an item to the next TSC agenda to clarify this whole voting thing 17:45:03 <huan> #vote +1 17:45:09 <anipbu> #endvote 17:45:09 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC add skitt as a member of the security response team?" Results are 17:45:09 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): rovarga, skitt, zxiiro, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, jamoluhrsen, anipbu, huan, vishnoianil 17:45:18 <anipbu> #agreed skitt is a member of the security release team unanimously 17:45:29 <vishnoianil> Congrates! skitt ;) 17:45:40 <LuisGomez> congrats skitt 17:45:48 <anipbu> congrats skitt 17:45:50 <jamoluhrsen> sorry skitt 17:45:52 * edwarnicke feels more secure already 17:46:12 <skitt> does helpdesk deal with the subscription, or does the security team handle it internally? 17:46:24 <rovarga> skitt: helpdesk 17:46:33 <skitt> rovarga, same for the private bugzilla I guess 17:46:53 <rovarga> yup, it's a group membership thing 17:54:17 <CaseyODL> #topic cookies 17:54:24 <jamoluhrsen> #endmeeting