17:00:30 <colindixon> #startmeeting tsc 17:00:30 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 13 17:00:30 2017 UTC. The chair is colindixon. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:00:30 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:30 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:00:35 <colindixon> #topic agenda bashing and roll call 17:00:38 <skitt> #info skitt 17:00:39 <colindixon> TSC members please #info in 17:00:41 <colindixon> #Info colindixon 17:00:47 <vrpolak> #info Vratko Polak proxying for Luis Gomez 17:00:47 <dfarrell07> #info Daniel Farrell for Jamo 17:00:55 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-07-06-17.04.html last week's meeting minutes 17:01:09 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=58746#Agenda the agenda 17:01:24 <hideyuki> #info Hideyuki 17:01:28 <rovarga> #info rovarga 17:01:29 <anipbu> #info anipbu 17:01:30 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi 17:01:30 <colindixon> #action colindixon, zxiiro and phrobb to come up with a proposal for tracking project activity in a positive way 17:01:30 <colindixon> #action phrobb and tykeal to look into an ODL infra micro-datacenter in a box to make things work better at tutorials 17:01:32 <colindixon> #action colindixon to look to see if any current security response team members would like to voluntarily step down for any reason 17:01:33 <colindixon> #action rovarga to reach out to the projects that use liblldp and ask if they can take it over or stop using it to get it out of controller 17:01:33 <colindixon> #action CaseyODL and/or colindixon to work on getting more DDF poll responses and starting to summarize them 17:02:43 <colindixon> #action CaseyODL to send mail to controller-dev about the DDF poll too 17:03:21 <shague> #info shague 17:03:21 <colindixon> #info the issue of carbon support lifetime was resovled last TSC call 17:03:38 <colindixon> #info I don't think we are in depserate need of a Karaf 4 expert/consultant anymore 17:04:00 <colindixon> #action CaseyODL to add this release manager position be made a priority for the next board meeting 17:04:16 <colindixon> skitt: did you update the security wiki? 17:04:23 <skitt> colindixon, urgh no 17:04:45 <colindixon> #info CaseyODL says that there is a member company entertaining providing a release manager, but it hasn't gone to the board yet 17:05:35 <colindixon> #action phrobb to bring the need for a security manager to the board and figure out if we can get a response 17:06:01 <skitt> #info the security wiki page has been updated 17:07:05 <colindixon> #topic security response team 17:08:44 <edwarnicke> #info edwarnicke 17:09:40 <CaseyODL> The events page has been updated with the CableLabs event. 17:09:41 <CaseyODL> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events#Upcoming_Events 17:10:13 <colindixon> #info skitt asks how changes in the security team are things that are done by current members or the TSC, colindixon says basically the TSC has all the power there, but in practice the team's opinions (and votes) are taken seriously 17:10:59 <colindixon> #topic mailing list discussions and votes 17:11:18 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007505.html release manager job description 17:11:30 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007506.html future dveloper design forums 17:11:43 <colindixon> #Link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-July/007626.html survey 17:11:50 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-July/007628.html survey accessilble in China 17:12:18 <colindixon> #topic event 17:12:20 <colindixon> #undo 17:12:20 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2e47250> 17:12:24 <colindixon> #topic events 17:12:28 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events 17:12:32 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main 17:13:13 <colindixon> #info CableLabs Summer Conference in Keystone, CO on August 6-9th 17:13:41 <colindixon> #info Open Source Summit North America is 9/11 in Los Angeles 17:14:16 <colindixon> #info SDN/NFV World Congress in Europe will have ODL presence will be followed by an ODL road tour 17:14:29 <colindixon> #topic carbon 17:14:34 <colindixon> anipbu: take it away 17:14:39 <colindixon> #chair anipbu CaseyODL phrobb 17:14:39 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL anipbu colindixon phrobb 17:14:48 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release/Carbon/SR1/Status <--- We would like to present the final build for Carbon SR1. There are no pending blocking bugs. All test issues found have been signed off as "OKAY" to release. 17:15:58 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Carbon_Release_Plan#SR1_Download <--- Carbon SR1 Build 20170712 17:16:15 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Carbon_Release_Plan#Schedule <--- Carbon SR2 is scheduled for 8/17/2017. The stable/carbon branches will be unlocked for only 3 weeks for development. 17:16:40 <anipbu> #undo 17:16:40 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x2c00a50> 17:16:47 <anipbu> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Carbon_Release_Plan#Schedule <--- Carbon SR2 is scheduled for 8/17/2017. The stable/carbon branches will be unlocked for only 4 weeks for development. 17:16:48 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC approve the release of Carbon SR1 as summarized by anipbu above? -1,0,+1 17:16:48 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC approve the release of Carbon SR1 as summarized by anipbu above? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:16:48 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:16:56 <rovarga> #vote +1 17:16:58 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 17:16:59 <colindixon> #vote +1 17:17:00 <anipbu> #vote +1 17:17:12 <skitt> #vote +1 17:17:14 <dfarrell07> #vote +1 17:17:15 <hideyuki> #vote +1 17:17:37 <colindixon> vrpolak: 17:17:48 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 17:17:50 <shague> #vote +1 17:17:58 <vrpolak> #vote +1 17:17:58 <colindixon> #endvote 17:17:58 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve the release of Carbon SR1 as summarized by anipbu above?" Results are 17:17:58 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): vrpolak, rovarga, skitt, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, anipbu, vishnoianil 17:18:11 <CaseyODL> Yay! 17:18:13 <CaseyODL> :) 17:18:16 <colindixon> #agreed Carbon-SR1 is released 17:18:35 <rovarga> woo-hoo... now to get that branch unlocked... :) 17:18:36 <dfarrell07> w00t, now bump-and-tag quickly so I can downstream ;) 17:18:41 <anipbu> Did i lose my audio? 17:18:51 <skitt> anipbu, we can't hear you 17:18:57 <colindixon> anipbu: we can't hear you if you're talking 17:20:37 <dfarrell07> abelur: I guess you'll ping the lists as soon as bump-tag is done? /me has tight timeline to consume this downstream 17:20:57 <colindixon> #info given that Nitrogen ships on 9/7 (planned), it seems like 8/17 or 9/21 are the two valid dates to target for Carbon-SR2 that don't directly conflict with Nitrogen 17:21:02 <rovarga> abelur: same here, I have a slew of patches that need to land in carbon asap 17:21:42 <zxiiro> sorry I missed the vote 17:21:44 <zxiiro> #vote +1 17:21:44 <zxiiro> :) 17:22:07 <colindixon> #startvote shall week keep the target of 8/17 given that it's only 4 weeks for SR2 or move it to 9/21 to be 2 weeks after the planned nitrogen release? 8/17, 9/21, 0 17:22:07 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall week keep the target of 8/17 given that it's only 4 weeks for SR2 or move it to 9/21 to be 2 weeks after the planned nitrogen release? Valid vote options are 8, 17, 9, 21, 0. 17:22:07 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:22:11 <skitt> zxiiro, no reaction from odl_meetbot, that's surprising 17:22:14 <colindixon> #endvote 17:22:14 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall week keep the target of 8/17 given that it's only 4 weeks for SR2 or move it to 9/21 to be 2 weeks after the planned nitrogen release?" Results are 17:22:24 <colindixon> #startvote shall week keep the target of 8/17 given that it's only 4 weeks for SR2 or move it to 9/21 to be 2 weeks after the planned nitrogen release? Aug17, Sep21, 0 17:22:24 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall week keep the target of 8/17 given that it's only 4 weeks for SR2 or move it to 9/21 to be 2 weeks after the planned nitrogen release? Valid vote options are Aug17, Sep21, 0. 17:22:24 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:22:33 <skitt> #vote Aug17 17:22:34 <anipbu> #vote Aug17 17:22:35 <colindixon> #vote Aug17 17:22:38 <edwarnicke> #vote Aug17 17:22:45 <shague> #vote Aug17 17:22:48 <vrpolak> #vote Aug17 17:22:53 <vishnoianil> #vote Aug17 17:22:53 <hideyuki> #vote Aug17 17:22:55 <zxiiro> #vote Aug17 17:23:06 <colindixon> #endvote 17:23:06 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall week keep the target of 8/17 given that it's only 4 weeks for SR2 or move it to 9/21 to be 2 weeks after the planned nitrogen release?" Results are 17:23:06 <odl_meetbot> Aug17 (9): vrpolak, zxiiro, edwarnicke, vishnoianil, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, anipbu, skitt 17:23:18 <colindixon> #agreed we will keep Carbon-SR2 at 2017-08-17 17:23:26 <colindixon> #topic Nitrogen 17:23:38 <anipbu> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-July/011587.html <--- SFT was hanging for over 3 hrs in Clustered Netconf Topology :: Netconf Connector 17:23:42 <anipbu> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/release/2017-July/011590.html <--- SFT was hanging for over 3 hrs in neutron :: integration-test 17:23:52 <CaseyODL> https://xkcd.com/1179/ 17:23:58 <CaseyODL> :) 17:24:19 <edwarnicke> CaseyODL: I'm a big ISO 8601 proponent 17:24:19 <rovarga> CaseyODL: +1 :) 17:25:27 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks skitt and rovarga what's going on, rovarga says he's responded on the thread that it seems to be something to do with AAA 17:26:00 <colindixon> #Info there's also an issue ith threadpool in controller, that we need to go mess with 17:26:18 <colindixon> #info rovarga says that a thread-dump would still be useful, if zxiiro could produce it, that would help a lot 17:27:21 <colindixon> #action colindixon, CaseyODL, and/or anipbu to find somebody to look at the controller threadpool issue, maybe ping TomP 17:27:44 <colindixon> #topic system integration and testing 17:28:05 <colindixon> #info the SFT hangs we already talked about, otherwise nothing 17:28:18 <colindixon> #topic infra 17:28:22 <colindixon> #info no updates this week 17:28:39 <colindixon> #topic Amoury archive review 17:28:47 <colindixon> #Link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Archive_Proposals/Armoury 17:29:35 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007621.html process started 2 weesk ago on 2017-06-29 17:30:23 <colindixon> #info colindixon notes that the above thread has Alexis who is the PTL saying we should archive it 17:31:09 <colindixon> #info rovarga asks is there something similar in ODL, edwarnicke says no, but APPC in ONAP does a very similar thing and is based on ODL 17:31:16 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC archive Amoury? -1,0,+1 17:31:16 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC archive Amoury? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:31:16 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:31:19 <skitt> #vote +1 17:31:21 <dfarrell07> #vote +1 17:31:21 <rovarga> #vote +1 17:31:22 <colindixon> #vote +1 17:31:29 <vrpolak> #vote +1 17:31:31 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 17:31:32 <zxiiro> #vote +1 17:31:34 <hideyuki> #vote +1 17:31:36 <anipbu> #vote +1 17:31:36 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 17:31:40 <shague> #vote +1 17:31:44 <colindixon> #endvote 17:31:44 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC archive Amoury?" Results are 17:31:44 <odl_meetbot> +1 (11): rovarga, skitt, zxiiro, dfarrell07, edwarnicke, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, anipbu, vrpolak, vishnoianil 17:31:47 * dfarrell07 loves archiving projects:) 17:31:51 <colindixon> #agreed Amoury has been archived 17:32:09 <colindixon> #action colindixon to add the note about APPC in ONAP doing similar things to the Armoury Archive Proposal 17:32:16 <vishnoianil> dfarrell07, yeah because the wait time is around 18 months ;) 17:32:34 <colindixon> #topic Discovery Project Archive Review 17:32:37 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Archive_Proposals/Discovery 17:32:58 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-June/007613.html archival proposed on 2017-06-29 17:33:58 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC archive the Discovery project? -1,0,+1 17:33:58 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC archive the Discovery project? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:33:58 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:34:00 <rovarga> #vote +1 17:34:01 <hideyuki> #vote +1 17:34:02 <colindixon> #vote +1 17:34:04 <anipbu> #vote +1 17:34:05 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 17:34:06 <dfarrell07> #vote +1 17:34:07 <vrpolak> #vote +1 17:34:14 <skitt> #vote +1 17:34:15 <shague> #vote +1 17:34:27 <colindixon> #endvote 17:34:27 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC archive the Discovery project?" Results are 17:34:27 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): rovarga, vrpolak, skitt, dfarrell07, shague, hideyuki, colindixon, anipbu, vishnoianil 17:34:36 <colindixon> #agreed the Discovery project has been archived 17:35:27 <CaseyODL> What!? Two TSC calls in a row that end early?! 17:35:40 <colindixon> #topic cookies 17:35:43 <colindixon> #endmeeting