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17:00:20 <colindixon> #topic roll call and agenda bashing
17:00:36 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/index.php?title=TSC:Main&oldid=65957#Agenda
17:00:43 <colindixon> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-09-21-17.01.html
17:00:46 <skitt> #info skitt
17:00:48 <lori> #info lori
17:00:50 <colindixon> TSC member please #info in
17:00:52 <anipbu> #info anipbu
17:00:52 <colindixon> #info colindixon
17:00:54 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen
17:01:14 <gilesheron> #info gilesheron (proxy for edwarnicke)
17:01:29 <colindixon> #info we will send out release notes about what's wrong with Carbon and SR1 in SR2 unless shague, skitt and/or rovarga deeply disagree
17:01:54 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
17:02:17 <shague> #info shague
17:02:18 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi
17:02:36 <colindixon> #action CaseyODL to pursue the opportunity and keep the TSC up to speed around the December cross-project meet-up at the OPNFV summit in portland, specifically figure out how many ODLers plan to go
17:02:49 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi
17:03:08 <colindixon> #action phrobb and/or CaseyODL to figure out if there's a way to find a security manager for ODL (via the board)
17:03:22 <colindixon> #info CaseyODL did advertise the OPNFV plug-fest in Portland
17:03:48 <colindixon> #Info there are only 3 projects that haven't responed about Oxygen M0
17:05:22 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez
17:06:00 <colindixon> #action CaseyODL to coordinate rovarga to add a session to the TWS page about the lessons learned from nitrogen
17:08:22 <colindixon> #action vrpolak to open a bug against releng/builder to run all -jobs weekly, and -only jobs daily until M4
17:08:43 <vrpolak> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9197  <-- Run -all- CSIT jobs weekly and -only- jobs daily.
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17:09:00 <colindixon> #link https://bugs.opendaylight.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9197  <-- Run -all- CSIT jobs weekly and -only- jobs daily.
17:09:18 <colindixon> #topic TSC mailing list topics and votes
17:09:44 <phrobb> #info Job Description provided to Board for Security Coordinator.  phrobb will circle back with Board members to see if any resources identified during the November Board meeting
17:10:59 <colindixon> #info we are cutting over from ODLIDs to LFIDs, the wiki already supports LFID, we are then going to start to deprecate and eventually remove ODLID as a way to auth to our stuff
17:11:53 <colindixon> #info ODLID won't work for the wiki starting next week, are we could to cause problems with the DDF by doing that
17:12:51 <colindixon> #Info shague is asking if we could do the switch just after the DDF, CaseyODL says it's happening after the DDF already
17:14:25 <colindixon> #Info colindixon asks what will happen with IDs that change, will there be two people who have the same name for a short period of time
17:14:55 <colindixon> #link NeXt project not building in Carbon https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-September/008080.html
17:15:45 <colindixon> #Info the conclusion was that we will link to the last builds for Carbon, but need not be the same SR
17:15:59 <colindixon> #link JIRA is finally happening https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-September/008036.html
17:17:51 <colindixon> #Info for the above tykeal says that it's only for the wiki that we can have both ODLID and LFID on at the same time, and that will mean in that time, there are potentially two people who can auth to each account (on the wiki only)
17:18:35 <colindixon> #Info for gerrit, we will be reaching out all active developers to figure out their LFID and then we'll rename their old ODLID account to the LFID
17:18:45 <colindixon> #Info they will help to merge accounts
17:18:58 <colindixon> #Info for JIRA, there's nothing we can do if we don't figure out what LFIDs are before the migration
17:20:11 <colindixon> #info for other things like Sonar, there's no history, just rights and those can be regranted
17:22:02 <colindixon> #link ongoing GNT Creation Review https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/project-proposals/2017-August/000661.html
17:23:21 <colindixon> #Info colindixon says go look at at the thread (recently bumped) and we can start the vote over the mailing list
17:24:04 <colindixon> #info anipbu points out that they have been slow to respond, so maybe we wait
17:24:27 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-September/007932.html TrieMap project proposal
17:24:45 <colindixon> #Info the above seems simlar to LLDP, where it might not make snese to have a new project
17:25:22 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-September/007937.html Inter-project dependencies and features
17:26:02 <colindixon> #topic events
17:26:09 <colindixon> #link https://www.opendaylight.org/global-events
17:26:15 <colindixon> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Events:Main
17:27:02 <colindixon> #link Oxygen DDF registration (happening on Monday) https://www.regonline.com/registration/Checkin.aspx?EventID=2028931
17:27:23 <colindixon> #info abhijitkumbhare asks if we have an agenda for Ericsson people, CaseyODL says he'll have it out by EoD today
17:27:49 <colindixon> #topic Oxygen
17:28:07 <colindixon> #Link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-October/008123.html we have formally approved the Oxygen release plan
17:28:27 <colindixon> #Link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Oxygen_Release_Plan
17:28:40 <colindixon> #action klou to take the disclaimer off the top of the oxygen release plan
17:30:01 <colindixon> #info abhijitkumbhare asked if we could move the M1 date the M2 date for Oxygen, given that offset 0 M1 (final release plan) is in two days
17:31:36 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks if we can just get what we can in by 10/7 and then beg forgiveness where we're not ready?
17:32:33 <colindixon> #info anipbu says we should just track requests to delay on a per-project basis
17:34:15 <colindixon> #info three projects that havne't declared participation in Oxygen, but did in Nitrogen: cardinal, ttp, mdsal
17:34:32 <colindixon> #info mdsal is worrying, the others will likely not participate
17:35:10 <colindixon> #action klou to get rovarga to say mdsal is participating in oxygen
17:36:15 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1
17:36:25 <jamoluhrsen> sorry
17:36:53 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC make it clear that the default assumption is that the 6-month release plans are automatically approved without a needed vote with only the dates being changed; other revisions or changes will take a vote? +1,0,-1
17:36:53 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC make it clear that the default assumption is that the 6-month release plans are automatically approved without a needed vote with only the dates being changed; other revisions or changes will take a vote? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1.
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17:37:00 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1
17:37:01 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:37:01 <anipbu> #vote +1
17:37:03 <skitt> #vote +1
17:37:04 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:37:04 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:37:09 <shague> #vote +1
17:37:10 <lori> #vote +1
17:37:12 <zxiiro> #vote +1
17:37:31 <colindixon> #endvote
17:37:31 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC make it clear that the default assumption is that the 6-month release plans are automatically approved without a needed vote with only the dates being changed; other revisions or changes will take a vote?" Results are
17:37:31 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): skitt, zxiiro, shague, colindixon, lori, jamoluhrsen, anipbu, vishnoianil, abhijitkumbhare
17:37:43 <colindixon> #agreed the default assumption is that the 6-month release plans are automatically approved without a needed vote with only the dates being changed; other revisions or changes will take a vote
17:39:42 <colindixon> #info klou asks if we should make the 2 business day response required in the release plan longer, colindixon and anipbu say no
17:41:29 <colindixon> #info if there are other conserns, let's add them to future TSC agendas or get them on the mailing list
17:42:18 <colindixon> #info Nitrogen/Oxygen bumping issues? there was something with yangtools, but it's either all or almost all resolved at this point
17:42:48 <colindixon> #info vrpolak says it seems like oxygen and nitrogen seem to be fine for most projects with the one exception (mdsal)
17:43:07 <colindixon> #info shague says we could really use better heads up about these, weather event?
17:43:22 <colindixon> #info zxiiro says that we really need releng to be involved in these bumps
17:44:57 <colindixon> #action zxiiro to work with skitt and colindixon to see if we can get projects to opt-in (or opt-out) of having releng being empowered to merge any/all version bumps that relate to releases, not just after SRs
17:45:18 <colindixon> #info skitt has been working to make version ranges work where they can
17:46:17 <colindixon> #Info something about snapshot repositories and excluding them somehow
17:46:35 <colindixon> #info apparently that might be some non-trivial amoutn of work for the LF and thus hard
17:47:55 <colindixon> #info for milestone readouts, we should we really do it as git patches to the docs repo so that it can be reviewed, klou and zxiiro would like to do this
17:49:03 <colindixon> #info vrpolak asks what about branches, zxiiro says master is oxygen
17:49:46 <colindixon> http://docs.opendaylight.org/en/stable-nitrogen/
17:49:56 <colindixon> http://docs.opendaylight.org/en/latest/ <= Oxygen
17:50:46 <zxiiro> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/63996 Rename docs master to Oxygen
17:51:15 <colindixon> #agree we will move to using rst files committed for project milestone readouts
17:51:35 <colindixon> #info vrpolak says we should move the full release plan to rst as well
17:51:46 <colindixon> #action colindixon to work with klou  to try to migrate the oxygen release plan to rst in the docs repo
17:52:05 <colindixon> #topic martin dindoffer on SXP as a committer
17:52:10 <colindixon> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-October/008114.html
17:52:28 <colindixon> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/q/owner:%22Martin+Dindoffer+%253Cmartin.dindoffer%2540pantheon.tech%253E%22+project:sxp+status:merged 8 commits to SXP
17:52:50 <colindixon> #starvote shall the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as a committer? -1,0,+1
17:52:52 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:52:53 <skitt> #vote +1
17:52:54 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1
17:52:54 <anipbu> #vote +1
17:52:55 <colindixon> #startvote shall the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as a committer? -1,0,+1
17:52:55 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: shall the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as a committer? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
17:52:55 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
17:52:57 <shague> #vote +1
17:52:58 <zxiiro> #vote +1
17:52:58 <colindixon> #vote +1
17:53:00 <skitt> #vote +1
17:53:03 <gilesheron> #vote +1
17:53:06 <anipbu> #vote +1
17:53:06 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
17:53:08 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
17:53:09 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1
17:53:11 <vishnoianil> #vote +1
17:53:19 <colindixon> #endvote
17:53:19 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "shall the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as a committer?" Results are
17:53:19 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): gilesheron, skitt, zxiiro, LuisGomez, shague, colindixon, abhijitkumbhare, anipbu, vishnoianil, jamoluhrsen
17:53:30 <colindixon> #agreed Martin Dindoffer is a committer on SXP
17:53:48 <colindixon> #topic Nitrogen-SR1 and Carbon-SR2
17:53:54 <colindixon> #info when are they going to be?
17:54:32 <colindixon> #info jamoluhrsen says that Carbon-SR2 should be ready now we just have 1 or 2 patches to merge
17:55:26 <colindixon> #info zxiiro can the build can be kicked off by tonight assume we can get that merge done
17:55:56 <colindixon> #agreed Carbon-SR2 will go out ASAP, maybe even early next week
17:56:00 <shague> The https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/62775/ patch needs herry-pick to carbon - it is merged on nitrogen
17:56:25 <colindixon> #info shage says "The https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/62775/ patch needs herry-pick to carbon - it is merged on nitrogen"
17:56:26 <dfarrell07> There are two patches to merge for SR2, 63866 and a cherry pick of 62775
17:57:35 <colindixon> #info NItrogen SR1 was supposed to be on 10/7, SR2 is supposed to be on 12/7
17:58:07 <colindixon> #info ideally we'd leave SR2 alone, unless anyone objects
17:59:07 <colindixon> #info we shipped nitrogen on 9/26, we'll make SR1 on 10/26 because it's a month later as planned, but leave later SRs alone?
17:59:37 <colindixon> #agree we shipped nitrogen on 9/26, we'll make SR1 on 10/26 because it's a month later as planned, but leave later SRs alone?
17:59:46 <colindixon> #action klou will update Nitrogen SR1 to have a 10/26 release date and move the dates for branch locking and thigns as well
17:59:59 <dfarrell07> file:///home/daniel/Downloads/OPNFV%20Release%20-Euphrates-%20r11.pdf
18:00:29 <colindixon> #info daniel says the OPNFV release is on 10/20, so moving earlier might help
18:00:31 <dfarrell07> https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/8689511/OPNFV%20Release%20%2522Euphrates%2522%20r11.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1507140580000&api=v2
18:00:46 <zxiiro> I clicked it and it said I have to send 0.2 btc to some address
18:00:54 <dfarrell07> zxiiro: ;)
18:02:34 <colindixon> #action dfarrell07 to ask OPNFV when they would need an SR1 and is there anything that would actually be helpful that we coudl get in that
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18:02:50 <colindixon> #action dfarrell07 to ask OPNFV when they would need an SR1 and is there anything that would actually be helpful that we coudl get in that, if not we'll leave it at 10/26
18:03:27 <colindixon> #topic cookies
18:03:34 <colindixon> #endmeeting