17:04:43 <CaseyODL> #startmeeting tsc 17:04:43 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 2 17:04:43 2017 UTC. The chair is CaseyODL. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 17:04:43 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:04:43 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 17:05:02 <CaseyODL> #chair zxiiro skitt 17:05:02 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL skitt zxiiro 17:05:04 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare 17:05:22 <zxiiro> #info Thanh 17:05:27 <skitt> #info TSC members please #info in 17:05:30 <skitt> #info skitt 17:05:31 <rovarga_> #info rovarga_ 17:05:40 <skitt> #link Last week's minutes: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-10-26-03.32.html 17:06:47 <skitt> #info Lessons learned from Nitrogen scheduled for Monday 13's TWS 17:07:08 <skitt> #action colindixon to send out an e-mail asking if we want to have a vote of ordered options for what would happen with triemap (and figure out what the options are) 17:07:28 <skitt> #action rovarga to add a session to the TWS page about the lessons learned from nitrogen 17:08:09 <lhinds> forgot to info.. 17:08:14 <lhinds> #info lhinds 17:08:32 <skitt> lhinds, only TSC members are asked to info in ;-) 17:08:43 <lhinds> ah ok, thanks skitt 17:08:46 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen 17:08:46 <skitt> #chair dfarrell07 17:08:46 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL dfarrell07 skitt zxiiro 17:08:51 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi 17:09:04 <skitt> #topic JIRA migration 17:09:19 <skitt> #info a few hiccups, mostly for people who hadn't provided their initial account info 17:09:41 <skitt> #info issues with watches, they're working for tykeal but not for shague and various others 17:10:19 <skitt> #info could be an issue with the mail path between the LF and users, the SMTP servers aren't the same 17:10:51 <skitt> #info rovarga_ gets email from JIRA, so it could just be Red Hat 17:12:38 <dfarrell07> sorry, my laptop battery died as I started talking 17:12:45 <dfarrell07> I did update the agenda 17:12:46 <dfarrell07> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda 17:14:05 <skitt> #info question about adding the ability for anyone to add watchers 17:14:17 <skitt> #info enough voting on the mailing list, this will be enabled 17:15:58 <zxiiro> I'd also like to raise an issue that Jira is not publicly viewable by an anonymous user. 17:16:03 <abhijitkumbhare> My internet seems to be flaky today - voices breaking 17:16:14 <skitt> #link JIRA workflow email discussion: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-October/008193.html 17:16:53 <skitt> #info the current workflow is in bad shape, we need to either agree on a common workflow for every one or tell projects to choose 17:17:38 <skitt> #info rovarga_ suggests porting over the Bugzilla workflow, tykeal says that's not trivial 17:18:46 <skitt> #info zxiiro raises the issue that JIRA isn't publicly viewable for anonymous users (not logged in) 17:19:09 <skitt> #action tykeal to allow non-logged-in users to view JIRA 17:19:13 <zxiiro> #link Proposal to allow releng team to merge all version bump patches https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-October/008218.html 17:19:32 <skitt> #topic RelEng Team to perform all version bumping activities 17:19:39 <skitt> #info decided on the mailing list 17:19:46 <skitt> #topic GNT creation review 17:20:27 <skitt> #action anipbu to revive the GNT creation discussion 17:20:33 <skitt> #topic TrieMap creation review 17:20:41 <skitt> #action rovarga_ to revive the TrieMap creation review 17:20:58 <skitt> #topic liblldp project proposal 17:21:19 <skitt> #action shague to revive the liblldp project discussion if appropriate 17:21:29 <skitt> #topic RelEng Team to perform all version bumping activities, take two 17:21:55 <shague> #info I believe openflowplugin took lldp so no need to revive the discussion 17:22:00 <dfarrell07> "The Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first." 17:22:08 <skitt> shague, yeah that's why I added the "if appropriate" ;-) 17:22:29 <abhijitkumbhare> Yes - openflowplugin will add lldp 17:22:59 <dfarrell07> #startvote Shall the Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first -1,0,+1 17:22:59 <odl_meetbot> Unable to parse vote topic and options. 17:23:22 <CaseyODL> #startvote The Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first. +1,0,-1 17:23:22 <odl_meetbot> Unable to parse vote topic and options. 17:23:31 <edwarnicke> You need a question mark 17:23:35 <skitt> #startvote The Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first? -1, 0, +1 17:23:35 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: The Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:23:35 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:23:49 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1 17:23:50 <anipbu> #vote +1 17:23:51 <skitt> #vote +1 17:23:51 <zxiiro> #vote +1 17:23:52 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 17:23:54 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1 17:23:55 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 17:23:55 <rovarga_> #vote +1 17:23:59 <shague> #vote +1 17:24:02 <vishnoianil> #vote +1 17:24:14 <skitt> that carries 17:24:20 <CaseyODL> #endvote 17:24:20 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "The Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first?" Results are 17:24:20 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): skitt, anipbu, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, shague, abhijitkumbhare, zxiiro, rovarga_, vishnoianil, jamoluhrsen 17:24:32 <skitt> #agreed The Releng Team will merge trivial version bump changes for projects participating in autorelease. More complex version bumps that require code changes can also be merged IF the project +2s the patches first. 17:25:17 <skitt> #topic Inter-project dependencies 17:25:24 <skitt> #action skitt or rovarga_ to revive the discussion 17:26:01 <CaseyODL> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-September/007937.html Disscussion on Inter-project dependencies. 17:26:04 <skitt> #info Vratko has been working on a verification tool 17:26:29 <skitt> #info some of rovarga_'s patches have been merged so the situation has improved 17:26:55 <skitt> #topic Events 17:27:08 <skitt> #topic Releases/distributions refactoring discussions 17:27:13 <dfarrell07> #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18BF5I4WIGgYXr1-oPAyxgtPKFtkKnDz77c05cYLBllY/ Sam 17:27:16 <dfarrell07> #undo 17:27:16 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x14de350> 17:27:24 <dfarrell07> #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18BF5I4WIGgYXr1-oPAyxgtPKFtkKnDz77c05cYLBllY/ Sam's slide summery 17:28:06 <skitt> #info TWS on the topic next Monday 17:28:31 <skitt> #info the poll has been sent out, no responses yet 17:29:03 <skitt> #topic Events 17:29:30 <skitt> #info OPNFV plug-fest in December, register soon 17:29:41 <skitt> #info Open Source Leadership Summit in March 17:29:48 <skitt> #info ONS in March with co-located ODL DDF 17:30:43 <anipbu> https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-November/008240.html 17:31:11 <skitt> #link LF networking projects informational update: https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-November/008240.html 17:31:19 <skitt> #info webinar next Monday, 6pm PT 17:31:33 <skitt> #info same again next Tuesday, 7am PT 17:32:00 <skitt> #info topic is the umbrella discussion in progress for all the networking projects in the LF 17:32:38 <skitt> #topic Oxygen 17:32:48 <skitt> #info M2 milestone coming up, Nov 7/14/21 17:33:01 <skitt> #info still missing M1 milestones for ~20 projects 17:33:10 <skitt> #info new project P4Plugin wishing to join the release 17:33:44 <skitt> #info this is an existing project wishing to join 17:34:07 <skitt> #info no need for a TSC vote to approve their joining 17:35:08 <skitt> #action klou to continue pinging projects for M1 milestones 17:35:22 <skitt> #topic Nitrogen 17:35:40 <skitt> #info SR1 candidate ready, waiting for teams to check off CSIT issues 17:36:36 <skitt> #info big issues with ODL getting killed, so no urgency for teams to look into CSIT issues 17:36:44 <skitt> #info blocker bugs will be opened as necessary 17:36:52 <skitt> #info SR2 planned for December 7 17:37:11 <skitt> #info given that SR1 will only go out next week at the earliest, klou asks if we should move SR2 back 17:38:24 <skitt> #info LuisGomez suggests waiting until we get closer to the release 17:38:50 <skitt> #info we'll wait until late November/early December to see if we have something worth releasing before the end-of-year holidays 17:38:52 <skitt> #topic Carbon 17:39:12 <skitt> #info SR3 was planned for November 9 17:39:32 <skitt> #info klou sent out an email regarding SR3 and has had no reaction so far 17:39:52 <skitt> #info given the recent release of SR2, no point in releasing SR3 now 17:40:01 <skitt> #info SR3 was planned for February 15 17:40:04 <skitt> #undo 17:40:04 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x152efd0> 17:40:11 <skitt> #info SR4 was planned for February 15 17:40:21 <skitt> #info rovarga_ suggests moving SR3 to half-way between now and SR4 17:42:16 <skitt> #info the release plan doesn't reflect the longer release plan we approved a while ago 17:42:30 <skitt> #info the February 15 release won't be the last Carbon release 17:42:44 <skitt> #info we'd need one last release three months later 17:44:03 <skitt> #info Carbon is supposed to be supported as long as Nitrogen which has one last release on May 7 17:44:57 <skitt> #info rovarga_ suggests taking this to the mailing list so we can dig up the relevant meeting minutes 17:45:20 <skitt> #info he also suggests avoiding back-to-back Carbon/Nitrogen releases given how much trouble we had with the Nitrogen GA 17:46:00 <skitt> we need a search function for https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/ ;-) 17:46:18 <vishnoianil> yeah 17:46:50 <skitt> #topic Committer promotion for SXP (Martin Dindoffer) 17:46:56 <dfarrell07> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-October/008114.html nomination 17:47:30 <skitt> #startvote Does the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as SXP Committer? -1, 0, +1 17:47:30 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Does the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as SXP Committer? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 17:47:30 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 17:47:36 <rovarga_> #vote +1 17:47:37 <skitt> #vote +1 17:47:40 <anipbu> #vote +1 17:47:42 <edwarnicke> #vote +1 17:47:42 <zxiiro> #vote +1 17:47:42 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1 17:47:47 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1 17:47:49 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 17:48:05 <shague> #vote +1 17:48:12 <dfarrell07> #endvote 17:48:12 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Does the TSC approve Martin Dindoffer as SXP Committer?" Results are 17:48:12 <odl_meetbot> +1 (9): skitt, anipbu, LuisGomez, edwarnicke, shague, jamoluhrsen, zxiiro, rovarga_, abhijitkumbhare 17:48:14 <rovarga_> klou: skitt: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-07-06-17.04.html are the meeting minutes for Carbon extension (see point 5) 17:48:27 <skitt> #agreed Martin Dindoffer is an SXP Committer 17:48:36 <skitt> #action skitt to inform the various parties 17:48:44 <klou> thank you rovarga_! 17:48:53 <skitt> #action skitt to inform the various parties that Martin Dindoffer is approved as SXP Committer 17:49:14 <rovarga_> skitt: or we need to at least extract votes to a single page :) 17:49:23 <skitt> rovarga_, indeed 17:49:37 <skitt> #topic Infrastructure 17:49:52 <dfarrell07> lol, /me jumped off too soon? ;) 17:50:15 <skitt> #info at the end of December we need to migrate off our cloud provider 17:50:29 <skitt> #info we'll be migrating over the next two months 17:50:35 <rovarga_> skitt: or, actually, it would best to aggregate the logs into a mailing list 17:51:00 <skitt> rovarga_, that too, perhaps the summary emails should attach the logs 17:51:15 <skitt> #info the migration has already started and explains some of the recent disruption 17:51:25 <skitt> #info next up is Gerrit which will also involve a switch to LFID 17:51:37 <skitt> #info then Nexus and Jenkins and the build CI 17:51:56 <skitt> dfarrell07, probably best to do the SXP vote early ;-) 17:52:42 <skitt> rovarga_, and summarise the votes explicitly 17:53:04 <skitt> #info the new provider has different OpenStack flavours 17:53:12 <skitt> #info the Heat templates need to be updated 17:53:26 <skitt> #info the new provider has no quota for us 17:53:28 <skitt> :-D 17:53:50 <skitt> #info but we do run the risk of over-spending 17:58:32 <skitt> #info rovarga_ asks if we can automate emailing the TSC meeting IRC logs to a mailing list 17:58:54 <CaseyODL> Sorry it took so long to find the link to the questionnaire. https://goo.gl/forms/Jsz7HheQz9nN910Q2 17:59:03 <skitt> #info tykeal asks that we open a ticket but it will be very low priority 17:59:14 <skitt> patches welcome ;-) 17:59:38 <skitt> #action rovarga_ to open a ticket asking for IRC meeting log search or emailing to the mailing list 18:00:11 <skitt> #topic Security coordinator 18:00:24 <skitt> #info lhinds is Red Hat's nomination for the security coordinator role 18:00:32 * tykeal waves. I gotta drop for another meeting 18:00:36 <skitt> #info his bio went to the TSC mailing list 18:02:26 <skitt> #info first task would be to set up a proper embargo process (as done in OPNFV etc.) 18:02:37 <skitt> #info other topics could include threat analysis, secure coding etc. 18:03:15 <dfarrell07> #startvote Shall the TSC approve Luke Hines as Security Manager? -1,0,+1 18:03:15 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Shall the TSC approve Luke Hines as Security Manager? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1. 18:03:15 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 18:03:25 <zxiiro> #vote +1 18:03:26 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1 18:03:27 <skitt> #vote +1 18:03:27 <anipbu> #vote +1 18:03:27 <shague> #vote +1 18:03:28 <rovarga_> #vote 0 18:03:36 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1 18:03:37 <rovarga_> (didn't have time to review credentials :-)) 18:03:38 <skitt> it's Luke Hinds BTW ;-) 18:03:44 <skitt> rovarga_, yeah that's what I was going to ask 18:03:50 <dfarrell07> skitt: oh no lol 18:03:51 <LuisGomez> #vote +1 18:05:18 <skitt> #endvote 18:05:18 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Shall the TSC approve Luke Hines as Security Manager?" Results are 18:05:18 <odl_meetbot> 0 (1): rovarga_ 18:05:18 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): skitt, zxiiro, LuisGomez, shague, jamoluhrsen, anipbu, abhijitkumbhare 18:05:21 <dfarrell07> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/tsc/2017-November/008236.html Luke's bio 18:05:49 <skitt> #agreed the TSC approves Luke Hinds as Security coordinator 18:05:55 <skitt> congrats lhinds 18:06:08 <skitt> #topic Cookies 18:06:14 <lhinds> thx! good to be part of efforts 18:06:15 <abhijitkumbhare> congrats lhinds 18:06:19 <skitt> #endmeeting