========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by skitt at 18:04:40 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-11-16-18.04.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * TSC members please info in (skitt, 18:04:53) * skitt (skitt, 18:04:58) * Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 18:05:01) * Rollcall (skitt, 18:05:10) * jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 18:05:10) * tykeal - Andrew Grimberg (Proxy for zxiiro / Thanh Ha) (tykeal, 18:05:13) * anipbu (anipbu, 18:05:16) * jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 18:05:16) * abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 18:05:17) * jamoluhrsen for shague (jamoluhrsen, 18:05:21) * LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 18:05:27) * lori (lori, 18:05:38) * LINK: Last week's minutes: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-11-09-18.01.html (skitt, 18:05:45) * Events (skitt, 18:10:55) * Oxygen (skitt, 18:12:43) * klou sent the final M1 reminder last week (skitt, 18:13:06) * ocpplugin and tsdr didn’t respond and will be dropped (skitt, 18:13:18) * yangtools asked to be tracked separately (skitt, 18:13:42) * non-autorelease projects should feel free to respond N/A to non-applicable questions in the readouts (skitt, 18:15:39) * ACTION: rovarga_ to fill in the yangtools milestone readouts until an alternative is in place (skitt, 18:16:55) * we want to ensure the project in general is aware of odlparent and yangtools’ status (skitt, 18:17:26) * Nitrogen (skitt, 18:17:38) * still waiting for SR1 sign-off on CSIT issues (skitt, 18:17:54) * jamoluhrsen and LuisGomez will be looking at the remaining problems (skitt, 18:18:05) * as soon as we get sign-off we can formally release SR1 (skitt, 18:18:15) * (hopefully before Thanksgiving) (skitt, 18:18:24) * SR2 date is December 7, we won’t hit that date (skitt, 18:18:43) * SR1 likely early next week, starting November 21 (skitt, 18:18:58) * one fall-out from the TWS session on lessons from Nitrogen was reducing the number of SRs (skitt, 18:19:30) * so we could perhaps drop the December 7 release (skitt, 18:20:24) * releases take ~6 weeks (skitt, 18:21:11) * too much overlap now with six month releases, zxiiro and abelur are always in release mode (skitt, 18:24:57) * we never hit our release targets (skitt, 18:26:06) * specific proposal is to reduce SRs from 4 to 3 (skitt, 18:27:39) * or even doing as-needed SRs, but that would be too hard (no consensus) (skitt, 18:27:53) * our downstreams don’t track our releases very closely (skitt, 18:32:18) * we do still need SR1 not too long after GA because that release has lots of fixes (skitt, 18:32:33) * which indicates that our initial releases are hurried and not properly engineered (skitt, 18:33:25) * we need to avoid having too many SRs from different streams close together (skitt, 18:38:56) * we need to conclude the distribution discussions before we plan Fluorine, which makes them quite urgent (January) (skitt, 18:39:40) * the key problem with Oxygen is that we have Oxygen GA, Carbon SR and Oxygen SR in quick succession (skitt, 18:40:09) * resulting in over two full months spent in full release mode (ramp-down Oxygen, then Carbon, then Oxygen again) (skitt, 18:40:42) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Release_Dashboard <- view of all active releases (klou, 18:42:03) * one solution would be to release Oxygen GA, Oxygen SR1 and only then Carbon SR (skitt, 18:42:19) * which would extend our Carbon support time by two months (skitt, 18:42:29) * and also give time to back-port issues fixed in Oxygen SR1 to Carbon before its last SR (skitt, 18:43:51) * we need to ask projects whether they need a Carbon release (skitt, 18:47:21) * likewise for our downstreams (skitt, 18:47:26) * some of this goes back to our decision to support Carbon longer (skitt, 18:47:34) * we’ve tried asking before, without getting any feedback (skitt, 18:50:04) * we’ll revisit this issue later (skitt, 18:50:36) * Carbon (skitt, 18:51:41) * SR3 planned for December 14 (skitt, 18:51:53) * Infrastructure (skitt, 18:52:38) * Gerrit migration coming up next week on Friday (black Friday) (skitt, 18:52:58) * this will switch ids to LF ids (skitt, 18:53:11) * known mappings will be applied (skitt, 18:53:32) * unknown accounts will be disabled in Gerrit (skitt, 18:53:41) * so if you don’t have a wiki account or JIRA account yet, pay close attention to tykeal’s email which went out yesterday (skitt, 18:54:05) * upgrading to the latest version of Gerrit too (skitt, 18:54:23) * (the issues with Jenkins have been fixed) (skitt, 18:54:34) * also upgrading to the latest version of JIRA (skitt, 18:54:43) * should fix a couple of issues and provide a couple of features people have been asking for (skitt, 18:55:01) * expecting some fallout from Gerrit accounts being locked (skitt, 18:55:11) * final migration out of Rackspace planned for early December (skitt, 18:55:20) * as mentioned previously, we’ll be uncapped, however overage will cost us (but less than with Rackspace) (skitt, 18:55:53) * things should be much better after the migration: better relations with the provider, no more hybrid setup... (skitt, 18:58:52) * LF news (skitt, 18:59:21) * the LF has asked that we display the antitrust policy notice at the start of every TSC call (skitt, 18:59:39) * many people didn’t get the voting emails from Condorcet for the CAL election, ping CaseyODL if you haven’t got it (skitt, 19:00:26) * (he resent them today) (skitt, 19:00:35) * the LF is considering moving all their mailing lists etc. to groups.io (skitt, 19:01:13) * CaseyODL can talk about this at some future TWS (skitt, 19:03:45) * Cookies (skitt, 19:04:06) Meeting ended at 19:04:12 UTC. People present (lines said) --------------------------- * skitt (71) * dfarrell07 (10) * jamoluhrsen (10) * abhijitkumbhare (9) * tykeal (7) * odl_meetbot (5) * CaseyODL (4) * lori (3) * gzhao (2) * anipbu (2) * klou (1) * LuisGomez (1) * vishnoianil (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4