18:02:40 <skitt> #startmeeting tsc
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18:02:50 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi
18:02:51 <skitt> #topic Roll-call, agenda bashing
18:02:52 <anipbu> #info anipbu
18:02:57 <skitt> #info TSC members please info in
18:02:59 <skitt> #info skitt
18:02:59 <bjohnson> #info Brady Johnson
18:03:00 <lori> #info lori
18:03:04 <gzhao> #info gzhao
18:03:04 <skitt> #chair CaseyODL
18:03:04 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL skitt
18:05:22 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen
18:05:23 <zxiiro> #info Thanh Ha
18:05:24 <jamoluhrsen> :P
18:05:27 <shague> #info shague
18:05:37 <skitt> #topic Events
18:06:45 <skitt> #link Last week's minutes: https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-11-30-18.02.html
18:08:37 <skitt> #topic Mailing list topics and discussions
18:09:45 <skitt> #info NETCONF project situation
18:09:57 <skitt> #info PTL left Pantheon, only one committer left?
18:10:12 <bjohnson> #info Jakub Morvay <jakub.morvay@gmail.com> has self-nominated himself as Netconf PTL
18:10:45 <shague> nominated as commiter or PTL? I think he just wanted to be a committer
18:11:17 <bjohnson> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/netconf-dev/2017-December/001522.html Jakub self-nomination
18:12:09 <skitt> #info too few committers, no many external reviews, hard to promote new committers
18:13:05 <abhijitkumbhare_> #info abhijitkumbhare_ (via Webchat IRC)
18:13:26 <skitt> #info need a process to handle this kind of situation, not specifically for NETCONF but in general
18:15:05 <skitt> #info there are a number of potential candidates with contributions in the project already
18:15:51 <skitt> #info we should perhaps ask for interested people to step forward
18:17:01 <skitt> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/netconf-dev/2017-December/001522.html Jakub self-nomination
18:17:43 <bjohnson> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/NETCONF:Main Netconf Wiki
18:22:01 <skitt> #info encourage timely review of new patches to foster community
18:22:33 <skitt> #info other projects need to be re-inforced too
18:26:28 <skitt> #info we especially need to avoid situations where there are interested people, but their patches aren’t reviewed so they can’t be promoted and they end up being discouraged
18:33:02 <skitt> #action vishnoianil to send an email asking for interested parties re NETCONF to identify themselves, and asking the NETCONF committers to review patches (and reviews) and consider promoting them
18:33:28 <skitt> #info the TSC also needs to pay more attention to the M1 read-outs with their updated committer lists etc.
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18:35:22 <skitt> #action future TSC chair to send an email asking for interested parties re NETCONF to identify themselves, and asking the NETCONF committers to review patches (and reviews) and consider promoting them
18:35:29 <skitt> #info the TSC also needs to pay more attention to the M1 read-outs with their updated committer lists etc.
18:35:42 <CaseyODL> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:2017_Chair_Election
18:36:49 <skitt> #topic Groups.io
18:36:53 <zxiiro> +1 I think a TWS discussion would be better. Maybe a demo too?
18:37:02 <skitt> #info CaseyODL just sent an email requesting a discussion
18:37:57 <skitt> #topic Support venues
18:38:03 <skitt> #info we have a number of support venues
18:38:09 <skitt> #info not obvious for users where to get support
18:38:20 <skitt> #info mailing lists, Stackoverflow, IRC ...
18:38:42 <skitt> #info Groups.io provide various options which could help us, with subgroups
18:38:59 <skitt> #info with tagging etc.
18:40:47 <bjohnson> +1 for the IRC meetbot idea
18:40:49 <skitt> #info CaseyODL pursuing various integration options to improve our support story
18:40:55 <skitt> #info IRC bots etc.
18:41:38 <skitt> #info possible TWS about Groups.io on December 18?
18:43:36 <jamoluhrsen> how am I supposed to subscribe/tag/topic/whatever opendaylight on stackexchange?
18:43:39 <skitt> #topic Events
18:43:47 <skitt> jamoluhrsen, I’ll walk you through it
18:43:56 <skitt> #info OPNFV plug-fest just now, a few ODL people present
18:44:00 <jamoluhrsen> thanks skitt
18:44:40 <skitt> #info next event is the Open Source Leadership Summit in March, invites will be going out soon
18:44:50 <skitt> #info then ONS in late March in LA
18:45:57 <skitt> #info ONS possibly planning a conference in Europe, perhaps Amsterdam in September
18:46:02 <skitt> #topic Oxygen
18:46:15 <skitt> #info M3 phase
18:46:26 <skitt> #info 13 projects still haven’t submitted their M2 read-out yet
18:46:48 <skitt> #info we’ll have to discuss what to do with these projects at some point
18:46:58 <skitt> #info klou sent a M2 reminder this week
18:47:10 <skitt> #info we need to set a deadline (which is supposed to be the date in the release plan)
18:47:25 <bjohnson> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Simultaneous_Release:Oxygen_Release_Plan#Schedule Oxygen release plan
18:48:42 <skitt> #info handling this will fall out of the release refactoring discussions
18:49:25 <skitt> #info aaa and controller are the only two projects with M3 read-outs on time
18:49:28 <bjohnson> yay for Tom Pantelis and rgoulding for being on time with the M3
18:52:33 <kkershaw> since we're on the topic of Oxygen, could someone confirm whether or not migration to Yangtools 2 and ODLParent 3 are required for Oxygen release?
18:54:51 <skitt> #info if we don’t get odlparent 3 / AAA integrated by Friday December 15, we’ll postpone odlparent 3 to Fluorine
18:57:49 <skitt> #info the upgrade to odlparent 3 and yangtools 2 are supposed to be compulsory for Oxygen
18:58:11 <skitt> #info technically we can’t have a mix of odlparent 2/3 or yangtools 1/2 in the distribution
18:58:15 <skitt> #topic Nitrogen
18:58:27 <skitt> #info not releasing SR2 today
18:58:33 <vishnoianil> hard stop, need to drop now.
18:58:44 <zxiiro> We also have some infra updates.
18:59:33 <jamoluhrsen> look here; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15zG3cHuzkDymLO0ciQWgiY_3DU7IiWL_DdzO2mBjWuE/edit#gid=1816280874
18:59:35 <skitt> #info discussion on the mailing list
18:59:46 <skitt> #link SR proposals: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15zG3cHuzkDymLO0ciQWgiY_3DU7IiWL_DdzO2mBjWuE/edit#gid=1816280874
19:01:15 <skitt> #topic System integration
19:01:23 <skitt> #topic Infrastructure
19:01:42 <skitt> #info Gerrit migration this Saturday
19:01:48 <skitt> #info Rackspace maintenance on Sunday
19:01:56 <skitt> #info so two maintenance windows this week-end
19:02:18 <skitt> #info the Jenkins cloud migration is planned for next week, early if tests this week go well, late otherwise
19:02:32 <skitt> #topic Carbon
19:02:36 <skitt> #info SR3 next week?
19:03:44 <skitt> #topic Cookies
19:03:49 <skitt> #endmeeting