========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by skitt at 18:01:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2017/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2017-12-21-18.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda bashing (skitt, 18:01:48) * TSC members please info in (skitt, 18:01:53) * skitt (skitt, 18:01:57) * Brady Johnson (bjohnson, 18:01:57) * gzhao (gzhao, 18:02:00) * abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 18:02:29) * anipbu (anipbu, 18:02:33) * jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 18:09:34) * LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 18:12:40) * Anil Vishnoi (vishnoianil, 18:12:59) * VOTE: Voted on "Who will be present for next week's TSC call (APAC)?" Results are, +1: 3, -1: 5 (skitt, 18:14:28) * Very little participation in APAC meetings anyway, including from APAC members (skitt, 18:14:56) * Perhaps we should only hold APAC meetings when requested (skitt, 18:15:12) * ACTION: bjohnson to reach out to APAC members to see whether they want to continue the APAC meetings and in what form (skitt, 18:17:16) * Last meeting only had six people join (skitt, 18:18:36) * (last APAC meeting) (skitt, 18:18:46) * We hardly ever meet quorum for APAC calls (skitt, 18:18:58) * We could just cancel next week’s meeting outright anyway (skitt, 18:19:33) * AGREED: Next week’s TSC meeting is cancelled (December 28) (skitt, 18:20:49) * ACTION: CaseyODL to remove the calendar entry for next week’s meeting (skitt, 18:21:10) * The next TSC meeting will be on January 4 at the usual time (skitt, 18:22:09) * The next APAC call will be at the end of January as usual (for the time being) (skitt, 18:22:23) * Events (skitt, 18:23:14) * Nothing new, next big event is at ONS, with an ODL DDF (skitt, 18:25:26) * CaseyODL confirms ODL DDF at ONS will be at start of event, not end, so doesn't conflict with passover on Friday (dfarrell07, 18:25:56) * ACTION: CaseyODL to pressure LF leadership folks to get invites to LF Leadership Summit out ASAP so folks can plan budget (dfarrell07, 18:26:27) * unclear yet whether the ODL DDF will take place before ONS (the previous Friday or over the weekend) or concurrently with the start of ONS (skitt, 18:26:57) * There will also be a cross-project CI/CD mini-summit (skitt, 18:28:03) * Oxygen (skitt, 18:28:11) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Release_Dashboard (klou, 18:28:17) * ACTION: New TSC Chair to follow up with new NetConf PTL about situation, adding new committers, it has been the week they requested (dfarrell07, 18:33:28) * vishnoianil points out that if Netconf can't get back to TSC in timely manner it seems very likely they can't follow up with community (dfarrell07, 18:35:05) * if new NetConf PTL doesn't reply with plans to get project healthy by TSC meeting 1/4 (dfarrell07, 18:35:27) * the lack of updates from yangtools, mdsal etc. raises the question of what to do with projects with a bus factor of 1 (skitt, 18:37:46) * the wiki suggests there are quite a few committers, which seems to be inaccurate (skitt, 18:38:27) * LuisGomez points out that there are lots of committers on yangtools wiki, that it's not okay to have this disconnect between wiki and reality (dfarrell07, 18:38:31) * vishnoianil wants projects to update committer list so TSC can accurately judge health of project (dfarrell07, 18:39:21) * we need to ask projects who is active, and provide a definition of active (skitt, 18:39:45) * skitt points out that they are therefore not correctly reporting "wiki up to date" (dfarrell07, 18:39:52) * we need to compare the official list of committers on the wiki with real levels of activity (skitt, 18:40:07) * dfarrell07 thinks as a part of new release model we will have chance to put better requirements about what "active" means, what to do if project is unhealthy (dfarrell07, 18:40:42) * a big list of inactive committers on the wiki also discourages new contributors (skitt, 18:40:43) * We did not release SR2 on December 7 (skitt, 18:45:01) * recommendation is just to merge SR2 and SR3, and release on February 7 (skitt, 18:45:22) * ACTION: CaseyODL to add "healthy project/committer" discussion to TWS agenda (dfarrell07, 18:45:37) * VOTE: Voted on "Shall we release SR2 on February 7, 2018, merging SR2 and SR3?" Results are, +1: 8 (skitt, 18:46:19) * AGREED: We will release Nitrogen SR2 on February 7, 2018, merging SR2 and SR3 (skitt, 18:46:33) * SR3 will be planned for May 7 (skitt, 18:46:48) * No planned SR4 now (skitt, 18:47:57) * SR3 planned to be released last week (skitt, 18:48:18) * we have a RC, had to re-run CSIT a couple of times (skitt, 18:48:27) * there are 45 failures, all of which have been reviewed (skitt, 18:48:39) * thanks to jamoluhrsen and LuisGomez (skitt, 18:48:44) * 9 remain to deal with, 3 of which appear to be regressions in NetVirt (skitt, 18:48:55) * those bugs will be moved to blocker state, and NetVirt will have to decide what to do (skitt, 18:49:13) * ACTION: shague to decide if three Carbon SR3 regressions are blockers, and if so find someone to fix, else move out of bokcer state (dfarrell07, 18:49:45) * Carbon SR3 is liable to be released only in January (skitt, 18:56:02) * Infrastructure (skitt, 18:56:06) * We will soon be completely switched over to the new Nexus system, which should resolve download speed issues (skitt, 18:57:16) * logs are being rsync'd over, sorry impossible to get to old logs for now (dfarrell07, 18:57:25) * The quick clone issue should be resolved soon, except for projects using submodules (skitt, 18:58:03) * there is a git mirror in our new cloud that mirrors main git in AWS, that makes clones work but some types of interactions with Gerrit are still very slow/don't work at all (dfarrell07, 18:58:17) * dfarrell07 has seen curls of small files from old gerrit just fail, TSC timeout (dfarrell07, 18:58:38) * dfarrell07 has seen curls of small files from old gerrit just fail, TCP timeout (dfarrell07, 18:58:52) * The vendor also have various tweaks in the wings to help fix speed issues (skitt, 18:59:44) * Cookies (skitt, 19:00:25) Meeting ended at 19:00:30 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * bjohnson * bjohnson to reach out to APAC members to see whether they want to continue the APAC meetings and in what form * CaseyODL * CaseyODL to remove the calendar entry for next week’s meeting * CaseyODL to pressure LF leadership folks to get invites to LF Leadership Summit out ASAP so folks can plan budget * CaseyODL to add "healthy project/committer" discussion to TWS agenda * **UNASSIGNED** * New TSC Chair to follow up with new NetConf PTL about situation, adding new committers, it has been the week they requested * shague to decide if three Carbon SR3 regressions are blockers, and if so find someone to fix, else move out of bokcer state People present (lines said) --------------------------- * skitt (63) * dfarrell07 (30) * odl_meetbot (17) * abhijitkumbhare (8) * anipbu (6) * gzhao (4) * bjohnson (4) * jamoluhrsen (4) * LuisGomez (3) * vishnoianil (3) * klou (2) * CaseyODL (2) * tykeal (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4