17:59:35 <abhijitkumbhare> #startmeeting tsc
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18:00:07 <skitt> #topic Roll-call and agenda bashing
18:00:15 <skitt> #info TSC members please info in
18:00:25 <skitt> oops I can't change the topic
18:00:26 <CaseyODL> abhijitkumbhare: Can you Chair myself and skitt
18:00:32 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
18:00:41 <abhijitkumbhare> #chair skitt CaseyODL
18:00:41 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyODL abhijitkumbhare skitt
18:00:54 <CaseyODL> skitt: Now you can.  :)
18:01:03 <skitt> #topic Roll-call and agenda bashing
18:01:04 <zxiiro> #info Thanh Ha
18:01:05 <bjohnson> #info Brady Johnson
18:01:31 <skitt> #info skitt
18:01:32 <CaseyODL> bjohnson: I muted you because your keyboard is loud.  :)
18:01:43 <bjohnson> CaseyODL: ok, thanks!
18:02:10 <CaseyODL> Mine is too.  Not sure how to fix it.
18:02:30 <bjohnson> CaseyODL: my mic was turned way up, I just turned it down
18:02:38 <dfarrell07> Is no one talking or is there something wrong with my audio?
18:02:46 <lori> #info lori
18:02:49 <CaseyODL> Nobody is talking.  :)
18:03:07 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen
18:03:11 <lori> :)
18:03:34 <dfarrell07> 6
18:03:49 <dfarrell07> LuisGomez
18:04:00 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez
18:04:02 <bjohnson> shague
18:04:04 <dfarrell07> 7
18:04:05 <dfarrell07> 8
18:04:09 <dfarrell07> 7 sorry
18:04:26 <skitt> stop counting dfarrell07, we’ll end up with more TSC members if you keep going long enough ;-)
18:04:35 <dfarrell07> ;)
18:04:44 <anipbu> #info anipbu
18:04:48 <dfarrell07> 8
18:04:56 <shague> #info shague
18:05:21 <abhijitkumbhare> #link https://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2018/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2018-02-08-18.00.html Last week meeting minutes
18:06:20 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Additional topic: How to avoid delays?
18:06:23 <skitt> #info bjohnson suggests we have a lessons learned session to go over what’s going wrong with our releases
18:06:33 <skitt> #info dfarrell07 and jamoluhrsen think our new release process will help
18:06:56 <abhijitkumbhare> #info All TSC meetings will be same time (Thursdays 10 am Pacific) going forward
18:07:11 <abhijitkumbhare> #info No separate slot for APAC timezone - past experience with dedicated APAC time slots resulted in low attendance
18:07:19 <abhijitkumbhare> #undo
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18:07:25 <abhijitkumbhare> #agreed No separate slot for APAC timezone - past experience with dedicated APAC time slots resulted in low attendance
18:07:26 <gzhao> #info gzhao
18:07:42 <skitt> 9
18:07:58 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Monday Feb 19 TWS to be dedicated for discussion on OpenDaylight Project Goals 2018
18:09:15 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi
18:10:16 <skitt> #topic ONS
18:11:26 <dfarrell07> #info dfarrell07 requests we start making sure we have an agenda on wiki, time slots allocated to topics and we handle them in prio order
18:11:37 <dfarrell07> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Main#Agenda needs to be updated
18:12:26 <abhijitkumbhare> dfarrell07: I had the agenda - just not the minutes to each topic
18:12:47 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Releases
18:12:52 <klou> #link https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Release_Dashboard <- Release Dashboard
18:12:58 <skitt> #info Carbon almost there, new RC
18:13:07 <dfarrell07> abhijitkumbhare: oh, I guess it's just the date that needs to be updated, says December 19th ;)
18:13:19 <abhijitkumbhare> Aah - dfarrell07 :)
18:13:55 <skitt> #info we’re now two months late based on our last announced Carbon SR date
18:15:33 <skitt> #action bjohnson to start compiling lessons learned from the late releases
18:15:38 <jamoluhrsen> bjohnson: kit does outline a few of the problems on the release dashboard. that's info to start with
18:16:23 <skitt> #info Nitrogen branches were locked on Monday
18:16:35 <skitt> #info successful build recently but CSIT didn’t run
18:16:42 <skitt> #info CSIT just finished
18:17:07 <skitt> #info we could release Nitrogen and Carbon SRs at the same time
18:17:40 <skitt> #info on the Oxygen front, dlux/dluxapps sent in their milestones
18:17:58 <skitt> #info no green build yet
18:18:37 <skitt> #info eman, faas, nic, unimgr, vtn not in the distribution
18:18:49 <skitt> #info vtn finished their work very recently
18:21:18 <skitt> #agreed no projects can re-join the Oxygen release at this point
18:22:00 <skitt> #info no patches should be merged to add projects to autorelease or int/dist now
18:24:03 <dfarrell07> #link https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/68169 BIER code dump that poses major risk to release, breaks API waver
18:24:18 <skitt> #info reminder that we’re in code-freeze now too, so no large patches should be merged anywhere
18:25:48 <abhijitkumbhare> #agreed https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/68169 BIER should be moved to Fluorine
18:34:46 <skitt> #info as soon as we get an autorelease build, it will be our RC
18:36:21 <skitt> #topic Infrastructure
18:36:43 <skitt> https://logs.opendaylight.org/releng/vex-yul-odl-jenkins-1/neutron-distribution-check-oxygen/214/console.log.gz
18:37:05 <skitt> 19 minutes ago
18:38:40 <skitt> #info file system migration on Nexus last Monday, took a long time because of the volume of data
18:38:50 <skitt> #info no risk in the near term of encountering the same inode issue again
18:39:03 <skitt> #info only logs will be affected in future, Nexus can continue serving resources
18:39:15 <skitt> #info old logs are still being synced, that’s going to take more than a week still
18:39:24 <skitt> #info the old logs are available via /old-logs/
18:40:17 <skitt> #info an issue was noticed with rsync this morning: rsync only sets permissions at the end of a job, so files may be inaccessible until they’re entirely copied
18:41:06 <skitt> #info merge jobs’ logs may be affected now, because the build numbers restarted — use the Jenkins console to view those
18:41:26 <zxiiro> #link https://github.com/opendaylight/releng-builder/tree/master/jenkins-config
18:41:33 <skitt> #info some new Groovy scripts are being deployed to manage Jenkins global configuration
18:41:44 <skitt> #info this reduces the level of magic in parameters beyond jjb’s reach
18:42:02 <skitt> #info environment variables for now, more to come
18:42:13 <skitt> #info emergency Jenkins maintenance to deal with three CVEs
18:42:31 <skitt> #info one of them allows anonymous users to extract any data or run any code on Jenkins
18:45:01 <abhijitkumbhare> #action abhijitkumbhare to cleanup the TSC page
18:45:19 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Groups.io
18:46:30 <jamoluhrsen> let's vote
18:47:34 <skitt> #info CaseyODL says the changes will be transparent to users of the mailing lists
18:47:39 <skitt> so it’s all his fault :-P
18:48:34 <jamoluhrsen> which release pantelis__ ? we are always at the middle and end of a release....
18:49:11 <abhijitkumbhare> yes skitt :)
18:49:34 <skitt> it’s always important to identify the scape-goat *before* making an important decision ;-)
18:49:39 <zxiiro> sadly we do not get to decide when Jenkins has a nasty security vulnerability to patch :(
18:49:43 <CaseyODL> lol
18:49:45 <CaseyODL> :)
18:50:28 <skitt> #startvote Does the TSC approve the LF’s plan to migrate ODL’s communication channels to Groups.io? -1, 0, +1
18:50:28 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Does the TSC approve the LF’s plan to migrate ODL’s communication channels to Groups.io? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
18:50:28 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
18:50:40 <dfarrell07> *good vibes for zxiiro, thanks for saving us, not your fault buddy*
18:50:44 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
18:50:45 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
18:50:46 <lori> #vote 0
18:50:51 <anipbu> #vote 0
18:50:52 <jamoluhrsen> #vote 0
18:50:52 <skitt> #vote -1
18:50:53 <shague> #vote 0
18:51:00 <zxiiro> #vote 0
18:51:05 <bjohnson> #vote +1
18:51:36 <skitt> #endvote
18:51:36 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Does the TSC approve the LF’s plan to migrate ODL’s communication channels to Groups.io?" Results are
18:51:36 <odl_meetbot> 0 (5): shague, zxiiro, lori, jamoluhrsen, anipbu
18:51:36 <odl_meetbot> +1 (3): LuisGomez, abhijitkumbhare, bjohnson
18:51:36 <odl_meetbot> -1 (1): skitt
18:53:30 <jamoluhrsen> if it aint broke...
18:57:21 <dfarrell07> I don't see their code
18:57:40 <dfarrell07> zxiiro, anipbu do you mind sharing your reasons?
18:57:53 <zxiiro> personally no opinion either way. I also work for LF so I feel I should abstain from the vote.
18:57:59 * dfarrell07 is thinking he will need to have these reasons on-hand for cross-project talks
18:58:10 <anipbu> dfarrell07: i spoke up already
18:58:41 <skitt> CaseyODL, where’s the source code?
18:58:47 * dfarrell07 missed that, sorry anipbu
18:59:31 <CaseyODL> looking
18:59:49 <skitt> #topic Cookies
18:59:55 <skitt> #endmeeting