========================== #opendaylight-meeting: tsc ========================== Meeting started by abhijitkumbhare at 16:59:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2018/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2018-05-24-16.59.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * jhershbe (jhershbe, 16:59:06) * Brady Johnson (bjohnson_, 16:59:18) * Agenda-bashing and roll-call (skitt, 16:59:27) * skitt (skitt, 16:59:36) * lori (lori, 16:59:49) * project neutron (jhershbe, 17:00:12) * abhijitkumbhare (abhijitkumbhare, 17:00:16) * project sfc (bjohnson_, 17:00:46) * rovarga (rovarga, 17:00:58) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Meeting#Agenda Agenda (abhijitkumbhare, 17:01:04) * jamoluhrsen (jamoluhrsen, 17:01:25) * shague (shague, 17:01:40) * gzhao (gzhao, 17:01:45) * #project netvirt (shague, 17:01:54) * ACTION: abhijitkumbhare to send TSC agenda the day prior to the TSC meeting when possible (jamoluhrsen, 17:02:49) * LINK: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Meeting#Agenda <-- agenda wiki that is updated weekly (jamoluhrsen, 17:03:10) * General topics (skitt, 17:03:36) * LuisGomez (LuisGomez, 17:04:00) * Ryan Goulding for AAA (rgoulding, 17:04:08) * CaseyLF and phrobb went through the wiki recently and noticed lots of pages are out of date (skitt, 17:04:30) * it would be nice if projects could check their pages and update them (skitt, 17:04:41) * CaseyLF noticed the wiki is out of date in many places (project proposals, project facts, release planning, etc.) Asking for people to do some cleanup (jamoluhrsen, 17:04:44) * #project genius (shague, 17:04:51) * people can also tag info as out of date if they notice it (skitt, 17:05:16) * dfarrell07 points out that some, if not a lot, of our documentation has moved off of the wiki to readthedocs (jamoluhrsen, 17:05:51) * possible conflicting information between LF and ODL wiki about the same topics (jamoluhrsen, 17:08:24) * ideally project-specific docs should go in the project (skitt, 17:09:42) * further discussion will take place in the docs call (skitt, 17:10:53) * docs call is tuesdays 12pm PST, for those that want to help and give ideas about making docs better (jamoluhrsen, 17:11:50) * the LF is looking into switching to EPL2 (the license) (skitt, 17:12:52) * CaseyLF has info forthcoming (skitt, 17:13:12) * we'll have a more formal presentation next week (skitt, 17:13:22) * CaseyLF invites participants to reach out to their legal departments regarding this (skitt, 17:13:43) * as far as the Eclipse Foundation (originator of the EPL) is concerned, EPL1 is now deprecated (skitt, 17:14:39) * multiple issues with EPL1 are addressed in EPL2: choice of venue, files as unit of licensing rather than modules, GPL compatibility etc. (skitt, 17:15:08) * faseelak (faseelak, 17:15:24) * CaseyLF believes the TSC could vote to migrate and "force" all projects to migrate (skitt, 17:15:50) * we'd also need an update to the charter, section 7bi, which specifies the license in use (skitt, 17:16:16) * ACTION: CaseyLF Send an email providing the details about the EPL2 change - rationale, etc. to the TSC mailing list (abhijitkumbhare, 17:17:07) * ACTION: CaseyLF to schedule TWS for EPL2 change (jamoluhrsen, 17:17:21) * anipbu (anipbu, 17:17:42) * re Mailman, the LF needs to know definitively by the end of the quarter what ODL wants to do (skitt, 17:20:26) * the Mailman services were supposed to switch to Groups.io by then (skitt, 17:20:38) * the LF needs permission from ODL to hand over Mailman management to Oregon State Labs which is where they're hosted (skitt, 17:21:11) * the hosting wouldn't change, it's just that the LF wouldn't be taking care of it (skitt, 17:21:32) * AGREED: We will stay on mailman - Oregon State Labs will be taking over the management/support for mailman on June 1 (abhijitkumbhare, 17:25:36) * LINK: https://doodle.com/poll/5fi657n95dgz8xqb <-- poll for possible new TSC time (jamoluhrsen, 17:26:03) * we no longer need to have an official agenda item for system integration and test (jamoluhrsen, 17:28:24) * Releases (abhijitkumbhare, 17:28:38) * LINK: https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403 <-- release dashboard (jamoluhrsen, 17:28:38) * LINK: https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403# (dfarrell07, 17:28:38) * TSC-99 went very well, much less downtime than previous migrations (skitt, 17:29:23) * TSC-101 up next (skitt, 17:29:28) * Fluorine middle checkpoint coming up (skitt, 17:30:48) * work ongoing to improve automation to track the checkpoints (attendance, broken autorelease, CLM violations...) (skitt, 17:31:11) * should the drop-dead date for pending weather items be the middle checkpoint? (skitt, 17:34:11) * with patch queues for weather items, projects which get started early are penalised because they need to rebase a lot (skitt, 17:37:07) * shague suggests that the answer is to get the patches ready more quickly (skitt, 17:37:32) * instead of aiming for a drop-dead date, we should encourage projects to work on weather items ASAP (skitt, 17:38:17) * (having a drop-dead date leads some projects to wait until then to prepare their patches) (skitt, 17:38:35) * we could also have name-and-shame emails every day (skitt, 17:38:44) * removing SFT from autorelease (abhijitkumbhare, 17:44:56) * rovarga suggests we modify autorelease so that it ignores SFT failures (logs them but continues) (skitt, 17:49:17) * jamoluhrsen says there’s an issue with stuck SFTs (skitt, 17:49:30) * LINK: https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/ODLPARENT-89 <-- sft hanging bug (jamoluhrsen, 17:50:52) * LINK: https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/ODLPARENT-88 <-- the real sft hanging bug (jamoluhrsen, 17:51:22) * now that autorelease feeds into int/dist, we should have equivalent coverage at least for managed projects (skitt, 17:57:05) * LINK: SFT patch: https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/72168 (skitt, 17:57:29) * Cookies & Beer (abhijitkumbhare, 18:00:57) Meeting ended at 18:01:01 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * abhijitkumbhare * abhijitkumbhare to send TSC agenda the day prior to the TSC meeting when possible * CaseyLF * CaseyLF Send an email providing the details about the EPL2 change - rationale, etc. to the TSC mailing list * CaseyLF to schedule TWS for EPL2 change People present (lines said) --------------------------- * skitt (47) * jamoluhrsen (24) * abhijitkumbhare (15) * bjohnson_ (8) * rovarga (6) * vorburger (6) * odl_meetbot (5) * shague (3) * jhershbe (3) * dfarrell07 (3) * gzhao (2) * faseelak (2) * lori (2) * CaseyLF (2) * cdgasparini (1) * rgoulding (1) * scottmelton (1) * LuisGomez (1) * anipbu (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4