15:58:24 <skitt> #startmeeting tsc
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15:58:28 <skitt> #chair abhijitkumbhare
15:58:28 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: abhijitkumbhare skitt
15:58:38 <skitt> #topic Roll-call and agenda bashing
15:58:47 <skitt> #link Agenda: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Meeting#Agenda
15:59:21 <CaseyLF> #link https://r.lfnetworking.org/Antitrust%20Slide.pdf Anti-Trust Policy
15:59:26 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare
15:59:52 <skitt> #info TSC members please #info in
15:59:59 <skitt> #info Project representatives please #project in
16:00:01 <skitt> #info skitt
16:00:03 <skitt> #project odlparent
16:00:18 <bjohnson_> #info Brady Johnson
16:00:28 <bjohnson_> #project sfc
16:00:42 <cdgasparini> #project bgpcep
16:00:46 <skitt> TSC members and proxies of course, hello vina_ermagan
16:00:54 <ScottM> #project tsdr
16:01:05 <jhershbe> #info jhershbe
16:01:13 <jhershbe> #project neutron
16:01:19 <jhershbe> #info project neutron
16:01:26 <skitt> jhershbe, covering all your bases
16:01:35 <jhershbe> skitt, yeah ;-)
16:01:43 <skitt> all our base are belong to jhershbe
16:01:47 <shague> #info shague
16:02:08 <gzhao> #info gzhao (irc only)
16:02:20 <aadam> #info aadam
16:02:37 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez
16:02:38 <jamoluhrsen> #info jamoluhrsen
16:03:00 <shague> #info #project netvirt ovsdb genius coe odltools
16:03:03 <jamoluhrsen> shague: did you project netvirt yet?
16:03:07 <jamoluhrsen> ha
16:03:15 <cdgasparini> #cdgasparini proxy rvarga
16:03:44 <cdgasparini> #info cdgasparini proxy rvarga
16:03:55 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Announcements
16:04:32 <zxiiro> #info Thanh Ha
16:04:41 <abhijitkumbhare> #info For now LF will remain the custodian of the mailman, the movement of mailman to Oregot State is postponed for now
16:04:46 <vthapar_> #project ovsdb
16:04:51 <vthapar_> #info vishal
16:06:20 <dfarrell07> #link https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/11139/ LFN gov docs, please leave comments
16:06:32 <aadam> Dashboard link https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403
16:06:32 <abhijitkumbhare> #info The ONS Europe will feature more technical talks - ODL folks are invited to submit proposals
16:06:44 <skitt> #info Please submit talks for ONS Europe, CFP closes on June 24
16:06:46 <vina_ermagan> hi skitt :)
16:07:04 <vina_ermagan> #info vina_ermagan proxy Lori
16:07:05 <dfarrell07> #info Please send demos to ONS EU, there are 8-9 spots, we did great ones at ONS NA, do it again
16:07:19 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Call for demo proposals also open - CFP for demo as per Brandon Wick's email
16:08:19 <vina_ermagan> ##lispflowmappin
16:08:19 <skitt> #info re the DDF date survey, 69% so far in favour of Thu/Fri
16:08:38 <vina_ermagan> #info lispflowmapping
16:08:39 <CaseyLF> #link Vote for DDF http://pollmaker.vote/p/7Y3AXIFS
16:09:11 <abhijitkumbhare> #undo
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16:09:23 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Neon DDF survey
16:09:47 <abhijitkumbhare> #info re the DDF date survey, 69% so far in favour of Thu/Fri
16:09:56 <abhijitkumbhare> #link Vote for DDF http://pollmaker.vote/p/7Y3AXIFS
16:10:23 <abhijitkumbhare> #info The survey will remain open till end of the TSC meeting
16:10:28 <bjohnson_> CaseyLF: did you mention how many people have already voted for the DDF date?
16:10:36 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Infra
16:11:09 <CaseyLF> #link DDF Poll Results http://pollmaker.vote/r/7Y3AXIFS
16:11:57 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Some hiccups - some issues on the CSIT jobs
16:13:03 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Releases
16:13:18 <skitt> #info Oxygen SR2 has been released
16:13:35 <skitt> #link Release dashboard: https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403
16:13:38 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare thanks everyone
16:19:23 <abhijitkumbhare> #info LispFlow autorelease test failures issue needs to have an owner
16:20:55 <skitt> #action lori to update the build so that autorelease no longer fails due to lispflowmapping failures, by June 21
16:21:29 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Sign-off process
16:21:34 <skitt> #info we had issues with the SR2 release because of missing sign-offs
16:21:52 <skitt> #info we blocked Oxygen merges for a week while waiting for sign-offs from projects with little activity
16:24:30 <vorburger> is the TSC holding a silent IRC only meeting today? I just joined late (sorry) on https://zoom.us/j/219174946 and 21 participants but nobody talking?
16:25:09 <bjohnson_> vorburger: this is the link I joined, and we're all here with audio: https://zoom.us/j/219174946
16:25:27 <bjohnson_> vorburger: maybe your audio isnt working
16:26:21 <skitt> #startvote The TSC agrees to apply the Fluorine managed release logic for the remaining Oxygen SRs (in particular, the two-day reaction time)? -1, 0, +1
16:26:21 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: The TSC agrees to apply the Fluorine managed release logic for the remaining Oxygen SRs (in particular, the two-day reaction time)? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
16:26:21 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
16:26:40 <abhijitkumbhare> Thanks skitt
16:26:49 <skitt> #vote +1
16:26:49 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
16:26:51 <bjohnson_> #vote +1
16:26:53 <zxiiro> #vote +1
16:26:54 <shague> #vote +1
16:27:02 <jamoluhrsen> #vote -1
16:27:03 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
16:27:15 <gzhao> #vote +1
16:28:38 <aadam> Managed release project https://docs.opendaylight.org/en/stable-oxygen/release-process/managed-release.html
16:28:52 <jamoluhrsen> I have loud noises going on here. can't talk very frequently
16:29:07 <skitt> #info Note that this only applies to the sign-off process, not the general release management
16:29:35 <gzhao> End vote?
16:29:40 <skitt> #endvote
16:29:40 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "The TSC agrees to apply the Fluorine managed release logic for the remaining Oxygen SRs (in particular, the two-day reaction time)?" Results are
16:29:40 <odl_meetbot> +1 (7): gzhao, skitt, LuisGomez, shague, abhijitkumbhare, zxiiro, bjohnson_
16:29:40 <odl_meetbot> -1 (1): jamoluhrsen
16:29:52 <skitt> jamoluhrsen’s shaking too much from the jackhammer in his house to type much
16:29:58 <jamoluhrsen> not that big of a deal. we just have two more oxygens to do and we wont have to worry about it. we'll just fight through it two more times and move one
16:30:58 <dfarrell07> #info jamoluhrsen's -1 was about the wording of the vote, that we aren't going to kick projects out in Oxygen, we will just ship with their failing tests
16:34:15 <abhijitkumbhare> #action LuisGomez to send an email on the release mailing list about the self managed projects
16:35:10 <skitt> #topic Project proposal: Service Utils
16:35:18 <skitt> #link Proposal: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:ServiceUtils
16:38:29 <abhijitkumbhare> #info This is to move some existing utils from Genius project to separate project to avoid cyclic dependencies
16:39:28 <abhijitkumbhare> #info The plan is for starting off to have the same list of committers  and the PTL for the Service Utils project as the Genius project
16:43:19 <skitt> #info since the project is splitting out from an existing, managed project, the new project will be managed too
16:43:44 <skitt> #action shague to add the above to the project proposal
16:43:46 <abhijitkumbhare> #info The project is essentially a fork of Genius - and will inherit all the state of the Genius project
16:43:47 <jamoluhrsen> even if it's not managed, they have to be in because a managed project depends on them.
16:43:50 <jamoluhrsen> like aaa
16:44:10 <skitt> jamoluhrsen, how can aaa *already* depend on them?
16:44:31 <jamoluhrsen> sorry. like how we had to make aaa a managed project because others depend on it.
16:45:24 <skitt> jamoluhrsen, oh, OK
16:46:14 <bjohnson_> Update to the Wiki done: "ServiceUtils will be an offset 0 Managed Project (the Managed Project status was inherited from Genius), with existing code from the Genius project."
16:46:18 <skitt> #startvote Does the TSC approve the creation of the Service Utils project as an offset zero, managed project? -1, 0, +1
16:46:18 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: Does the TSC approve the creation of the Service Utils project as an offset zero, managed project? Valid vote options are -1, 0, +1.
16:46:18 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
16:46:26 <LuisGomez> #vote +1
16:46:26 <skitt> #vote +1
16:46:27 <shague> #vote +1
16:46:29 <zxiiro> #vote +1
16:46:30 <jhershbe> #vote +1
16:46:30 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote +1
16:46:31 <bjohnson_> #vote +1
16:46:37 <gzhao> #vote +1
16:46:55 <jamoluhrsen> #vote +1
16:47:04 <cdgasparini> #vote rvarga +1
16:47:04 <odl_meetbot> cdgasparini: rvarga +1 is not a valid option. Valid options are -1, 0, +1.
16:47:15 <cdgasparini> #vote +1
16:47:18 <skitt> #endvote
16:47:18 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "Does the TSC approve the creation of the Service Utils project as an offset zero, managed project?" Results are
16:47:18 <odl_meetbot> +1 (10): gzhao, cdgasparini, jhershbe, skitt, LuisGomez, shague, abhijitkumbhare, zxiiro, bjohnson_, jamoluhrsen
16:47:29 <skitt> #info jhershbe’s vote is invalid but the motion passes anyway
16:48:18 <abhijitkumbhare> #agreed TSC approves Service Utils as an offset zero, managed project with the same state as the Genius project
16:48:55 <skitt> #topic Clustering Task Force
16:50:00 <jamoluhrsen> #info clustering is unstable.... not news but hoping to drive a task force to make it better
16:50:58 <CaseyLF> lol
16:51:24 <abhijitkumbhare> #info jamoluhrsen points out there is a list of clustering bugs that need to be addressed
16:51:36 <jamoluhrsen> #link https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/controller/job/controller-csit-3node-clustering-all-fluorine/116/robot/graph?zoomSignificant=true&failedOnly=false&criticalOnly=false&maxBuildsToShow=0&hd=true <-- picture of ODL clustering stability
16:54:17 <jamoluhrsen> to me, the first issue is not debugging and figuring out what tests are valid, etc.
16:54:29 <jamoluhrsen> the first step is finding engineers that will dive in and work.
17:00:49 <aadam> #action aadam to add to the JIRA dashboard a clustering bug table
17:00:49 <abhijitkumbhare> aadam: can you please list the action items before we say #-endmeeting?
17:01:04 <abhijitkumbhare> #chair aadam
17:01:04 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: aadam abhijitkumbhare skitt
17:01:20 <aadam> #action Daniel to schedule a clustering weekly meeting call
17:01:26 <abhijitkumbhare> #action aadam to add to the JIRA dashboard a clustering bug table
17:01:32 <jamoluhrsen> #info an early task for the clustering task force needs to be to make this job pass 100% EVERY TIME:  https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/releng/view/controller/job/controller-csit-3node-clustering-all-fluorine/
17:01:34 <aadam> #action aadam/jamo to review the clustering bugs and tag them
17:02:19 <aadam> #action abhijit to add this topic to check progress in the next TSC meeting
17:03:16 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi
17:03:36 <vorburger> just before the netvirt ?
17:03:51 <dfarrell07> #action dfarrell07 to send Doodle about when to do new clustering call
17:04:17 <dfarrell07> #action dfarrell07 to ask Robert about help from Vratko with cluster test debugging
17:04:33 <vorburger> #project infrautils
17:04:36 <vorburger> #project daexim
17:04:42 <jamoluhrsen> we need more java rockstars willing to work besides Tom. imho
17:05:24 <vishnoianil> jamoluhrsen +100
17:05:36 <skitt> #topic Cookies
17:05:38 <jamoluhrsen> vishnoianil: you are one
17:05:39 <skitt> #endmeeting