16:01:42 <skitt> #startmeeting TSC 16:01:42 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 12 16:01:42 2018 UTC. The chair is skitt. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 16:01:42 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:01:42 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc' 16:01:53 <skitt> #chair CaseyLF abhijitkumbhare dfarrell07 16:01:53 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: CaseyLF abhijitkumbhare dfarrell07 skitt 16:02:09 <skitt> #topic Roll-call and agenda bashing 16:02:15 <skitt> #info *TSC members* please #info in 16:02:20 <zxiiro> #info Thanh Ha 16:02:22 <anipbu> #info anipbu 16:02:24 <skitt> #info *Project representatives* please #project in 16:02:26 <skitt> #info skitt 16:02:34 <anipbu> #info gzhao (proxy) 16:02:34 <lori> #info lori 16:02:38 <skitt> #project odlparent controller netvirt ovsdb 16:02:44 <lori> #project lispflowmapping 16:02:54 <anipbu> #project usc 16:03:07 <skitt> #link Agenda: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Meeting#Agenda 16:04:27 <rovarga_> #info rovarga 16:04:33 <vishnoianil> #info Anil Vishnoi 16:04:42 <abhijitkumbhare> #info abhijitkumbhare 16:04:44 <vishnoianil> #project openflowplugin 16:05:01 <rovarga_> #project yangtools mdsal controller coretutorials bgpcep infrautils 16:05:12 <skitt> #topic Neon DDF 16:05:49 <LuisGomez> #info LuisGomez 16:06:20 <skitt> #info staying over the weekend for ONS EU isn't going to work out budget-wise for a few member companies 16:07:15 <skitt> #info CaseyLF says the venue is already booked and paid for, for the DDF on Thursday/Friday 16:07:27 <skitt> #info CaseyLF is waiting for an update from the LF 16:07:41 <skitt> #info CaseyLF points out that the community was involved in the decision 16:08:31 <faseelak> #project genius coe infrautils 16:08:48 <shague> #info shague 16:09:48 <shague> #info #project netvirt genius 16:10:00 <skitt> #info dfarrell07 apologises profusely 16:12:30 <skitt> #startvote What do people prefer for the DDF? Thursday/Friday as agreed initially, Sunday/Monday before ONS, Monday/Friday around ONS, in parallel with ONS 16:12:30 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: What do people prefer for the DDF? Valid vote options are Thursday, Friday, as, agreed, initially, Sunday, Monday, before, ONS, Monday, Friday, around, ONS, in, parallel, with, ONS. 16:12:30 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 16:12:39 <skitt> #endvote 16:12:39 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "What do people prefer for the DDF?" Results are 16:13:33 <skitt> #startvote What do people prefer for the DDF? ThuFri, SunMon, MonFri, parallel, anything 16:13:33 <odl_meetbot> Begin voting on: What do people prefer for the DDF? Valid vote options are ThuFri, SunMon, MonFri, parallel, anything. 16:13:33 <odl_meetbot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 16:14:02 <skitt> really we need ordered voting here (order of preference) 16:14:12 <rovarga_> condorcet :) 16:14:15 <skitt> exactly 16:14:50 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Options 16:15:01 <abhijitkumbhare> #info 1: Thu-Fri 16:15:14 <abhijitkumbhare> #info 2: Sun-Mon 16:15:44 <skitt> #vote SunMon 16:15:56 <anipbu> #vote anything 16:15:57 <rovarga_> #vote anything 16:15:59 * dfarrell07 would vote SunMon 16:16:05 <abhijitkumbhare> #vote anything 16:16:06 <zxiiro> #vote anything 16:16:06 <lori> #vote anything 16:16:12 <rovarga_> :-D 16:16:12 <cdgasparini> #info bgpcep 16:17:16 <skitt> #endvote 16:17:16 <odl_meetbot> Voted on "What do people prefer for the DDF?" Results are 16:17:16 <odl_meetbot> SunMon (1): skitt 16:17:16 <odl_meetbot> anything (5): rovarga_, lori, abhijitkumbhare, zxiiro, anipbu 16:17:21 <shague> #vote SunMon 16:17:25 <shague> sorry late 16:17:30 <faseelak_> #vote SunMon 16:17:48 <pantelis_> #vote SunMon (proxying for Brady) 16:18:08 <skitt> #info CaseyLF will see if the DDF can be moved to Sunday-Monday 16:18:14 <skitt> thanks CaseyLF 16:18:17 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Issues to do Releases for Self Managed Projects 16:18:28 <shague> #info #project serviceutils 16:19:16 <skitt> #info transportpce wants to participate in the Fluorine release 16:19:23 <skitt> #info but the project is facing a number of difficulties 16:19:36 <skitt> #info last year, the project had lots of problems syncing with master snapshots 16:20:10 <skitt> #info transportpce depends on lots of other ODL (kernel) projects 16:20:21 <skitt> #info last year the only solution was to fall back to the previous stable release 16:21:03 <skitt> #info transportpce master branch is now building but the features don’t load 16:21:16 <skitt> #info it worked before :-) 16:22:27 <CaseyLF> dfarrell07: I haven't seen the ticket from Ariel regarding the request for SSH access that highlights the community needs. Can you or Jamo open that ticket today so I can work on addressing that? 16:22:31 <skitt> #info two Orange developers spent most of last week trying to update to master 16:22:41 <skitt> #info they managed to make it build, but runtime doesn’t work 16:22:57 <skitt> #info they have three weeks before the deadline for self-managed projects 16:24:04 <skitt> #info Guillaume's personal feeling is that the current release process is well-adapted to managed projects 16:24:13 <skitt> #info but it's tough on external downstream projects 16:24:29 <skitt> #info the process isn't sustainable 16:24:42 <skitt> #info Guillaume's recommendation is to change the schedule for downstream projects 16:24:53 <skitt> #info and to require kernel projects to document their migrations 16:26:39 <skitt> #info dfarrell07 points out that the deadlines for external projects only apply if they want to ship in the distribution 16:26:49 <skitt> #info but non-managed projects are free to ship whenever they want 16:27:49 <skitt> #info LuisGomez mentions that at least some transitions were documented, and emails sent to release@ 16:27:56 <skitt> #info perhaps we need to plan a TWS to go over the migrations 16:32:07 <skitt> #info we really need to document migrations 16:32:27 <skitt> #info there's some documentation in the weather items 16:35:18 <skitt> #info rovarga_ points out that it's hard to know what downstreams need to change because we don't know their code 16:35:27 <skitt> #info the long-term solution is to stabilise the core platform 16:35:53 <skitt> #info it's also suggested that downstream projects keep jobs running so they can be notified as soon as breakages occur 16:40:48 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Releases 16:41:19 <abhijitkumbhare> #link https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403 16:41:35 <abhijitkumbhare> #undo 16:41:35 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x2be1810> 16:41:36 <rovarga_> abhijitkumbhare: we will need some forum to get the discussion around https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/TSC-124 and https://jira.opendaylight.org/browse/TSC-125 16:41:45 <abhijitkumbhare> #link https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403 Release Dashboard 16:43:46 <anipbu> https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10400 16:43:57 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Weather Item TSC-126 will be closed after autorelease passes 16:45:02 <abhijitkumbhare> #topic Clustering 16:45:28 <abhijitkumbhare> #info Continuing Clustering job analysis 16:45:51 <abhijitkumbhare> #info There are 19 open issues related to clustering 16:46:27 <abhijitkumbhare> #info There are a lot more clustering issues which are unassigned - which need help 16:48:09 <vpickard> https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa 16:52:08 <anipbu> rovarga_: should 124 and 125 be weather items so we continue to track it on the dashboard? 16:53:01 <rovarga_> anipbu: I think so 16:53:20 <rovarga_> anipbu: also, upcoming yangtools releases (I don't know why odlparent is showing up, but yangtools is not) 16:53:33 <skitt> #topic Cookies 16:53:37 <skitt> #endmeeting