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#opendaylight-meeting: TSC
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Meeting started by skitt at 16:01:42 UTC.  The full logs are available
at
http://meetings.opendaylight.org/opendaylight-meeting/2018/tsc/opendaylight-meeting-tsc.2018-07-12-16.01.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Roll-call and agenda bashing  (skitt, 16:02:09)
  * *TSC members* please #info in  (skitt, 16:02:15)
  * Thanh Ha  (zxiiro, 16:02:20)
  * anipbu  (anipbu, 16:02:22)
  * *Project representatives* please #project in  (skitt, 16:02:24)
  * skitt  (skitt, 16:02:26)
  * gzhao (proxy)  (anipbu, 16:02:34)
  * lori  (lori, 16:02:34)
  * LINK: Agenda: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/TSC:Meeting#Agenda
    (skitt, 16:03:07)
  * rovarga  (rovarga_, 16:04:27)
  * Anil Vishnoi  (vishnoianil, 16:04:33)
  * abhijitkumbhare  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:04:42)

* Neon DDF  (skitt, 16:05:12)
  * LuisGomez  (LuisGomez, 16:05:49)
  * staying over the weekend for ONS EU isn't going to work out
    budget-wise for a few member companies  (skitt, 16:06:20)
  * CaseyLF says the venue is already booked and paid for, for the DDF
    on Thursday/Friday  (skitt, 16:07:15)
  * CaseyLF is waiting for an update from the LF  (skitt, 16:07:27)
  * CaseyLF points out that the community was involved in the decision
    (skitt, 16:07:41)
  * shague  (shague, 16:08:48)
  * #project netvirt genius  (shague, 16:09:48)
  * dfarrell07 apologises profusely  (skitt, 16:10:00)
  * VOTE: Voted on "What do people prefer for the DDF?" Results are
    (skitt, 16:12:39)
  * Options  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:14:50)
  * 1: Thu-Fri  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:15:01)
  * 2: Sun-Mon  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:15:14)
  * bgpcep  (cdgasparini, 16:16:12)
  * VOTE: Voted on "What do people prefer for the DDF?" Results are,
    SunMon: 1, anything: 5  (skitt, 16:17:16)
  * CaseyLF will see if the DDF can be moved to Sunday-Monday  (skitt,
    16:18:08)

* Issues to do Releases for Self Managed Projects  (abhijitkumbhare,
  16:18:17)
  * #project serviceutils  (shague, 16:18:28)
  * transportpce wants to participate in the Fluorine release  (skitt,
    16:19:16)
  * but the project is facing a number of difficulties  (skitt,
    16:19:23)
  * last year, the project had lots of problems syncing with master
    snapshots  (skitt, 16:19:36)
  * transportpce depends on lots of other ODL (kernel) projects  (skitt,
    16:20:10)
  * last year the only solution was to fall back to the previous stable
    release  (skitt, 16:20:21)
  * transportpce master branch is now building but the features don’t
    load  (skitt, 16:21:03)
  * it worked before :-)  (skitt, 16:21:16)
  * two Orange developers spent most of last week trying to update to
    master  (skitt, 16:22:31)
  * they managed to make it build, but runtime doesn’t work  (skitt,
    16:22:41)
  * they have three weeks before the deadline for self-managed projects
    (skitt, 16:22:57)
  * Guillaume's personal feeling is that the current release process is
    well-adapted to managed projects  (skitt, 16:24:04)
  * but it's tough on external downstream projects  (skitt, 16:24:13)
  * the process isn't sustainable  (skitt, 16:24:29)
  * Guillaume's recommendation is to change the schedule for downstream
    projects  (skitt, 16:24:42)
  * and to require kernel projects to document their migrations  (skitt,
    16:24:53)
  * dfarrell07 points out that the deadlines for external projects only
    apply if they want to ship in the distribution  (skitt, 16:26:39)
  * but non-managed projects are free to ship whenever they want
    (skitt, 16:26:49)
  * LuisGomez mentions that at least some transitions were documented,
    and emails sent to release@  (skitt, 16:27:49)
  * perhaps we need to plan a TWS to go over the migrations  (skitt,
    16:27:56)
  * we really need to document migrations  (skitt, 16:32:07)
  * there's some documentation in the weather items  (skitt, 16:32:27)
  * rovarga_ points out that it's hard to know what downstreams need to
    change because we don't know their code  (skitt, 16:35:18)
  * the long-term solution is to stabilise the core platform  (skitt,
    16:35:27)
  * it's also suggested that downstream projects keep jobs running so
    they can be notified as soon as breakages occur  (skitt, 16:35:53)

* Releases  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:40:48)
  * LINK:
    https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10403
    Release Dashboard  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:41:45)
  * LINK:
    https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10400
    (anipbu, 16:43:46)
  * Weather Item TSC-126 will be closed after autorelease passes
    (abhijitkumbhare, 16:43:57)

* Clustering  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:45:02)
  * Continuing Clustering job analysis  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:45:28)
  * There are 19 open issues related to clustering  (abhijitkumbhare,
    16:45:51)
  * There are a lot more clustering issues which are unassigned - which
    need help  (abhijitkumbhare, 16:46:27)
  * LINK: https://jira.opendaylight.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa
    (vpickard, 16:48:09)

* Cookies  (skitt, 16:53:33)



Meeting ended at 16:53:37 UTC.



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* abhijitkumbhare (15)
* odl_meetbot (13)
* rovarga_ (8)
* anipbu (6)
* shague (5)
* lori (3)
* zxiiro (2)
* vishnoianil (2)
* vpickard (1)
* cdgasparini (1)
* LuisGomez (1)
* dfarrell07 (1)
* faseelak (1)
* pantelis_ (1)
* CaseyLF (1)
* faseelak_ (1)



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