15:01:12 <adetalhouet> #startmeeting NIC 15:01:12 <odl_meetbot> Meeting started Fri Sep 4 15:01:12 2015 UTC. The chair is adetalhouet. Information about MeetBot at http://ci.openstack.org/meetbot.html. 15:01:12 <odl_meetbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 15:01:12 <odl_meetbot> The meeting name has been set to 'nic' 15:01:34 <odl_meetbot> raphaelamorim_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 15:01:55 <adetalhouet> #chair raphaelamorim 15:01:55 <odl_meetbot> Current chairs: adetalhouet raphaelamorim 15:02:39 <gzhao> #info gzhao 15:02:47 <adetalhouet> #topic M2 Status / Release Planning 15:03:18 <adetalhouet> #info Initial planning is done 15:03:34 <adetalhouet> #info Now we have 2 millstones to accomplish the features 15:05:12 <raphaelamorim_> #link https://lists.opendaylight.org/pipermail/nic-dev/2015-September/000878.html 15:06:29 <adetalhouet> #link release plan https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/NIC:Beryllium:Release_Plan 15:07:41 <renato_aguiar> #info renato_aguiar 15:09:53 <adetalhouet> #topic Community goals for NIC 15:12:01 <adetalhouet> #info reviewing the trello board 15:12:13 <adetalhouet> #info OF Renderer is almost done, a few review to address 15:13:35 <adetalhouet> #info Lot of items in the backlogs, please pick one and start working on it :) 15:14:55 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow added 2 proposed goals on the Main page 15:16:20 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow hope we can plan work on those 2 goals 15:16:49 <adetalhouet> #info Are we agree with the proposed goals? 15:17:07 <adetalhouet> #info 1st goal: Solve the problem of resource contention between disparate ODL apps/services 15:18:10 <adetalhouet> #info mlemay asking how it does fit with the extension of OFP, ... 15:18:42 <adetalhouet> #action mlemay to send thread on discussions around this 15:19:17 <adetalhouet> #info Should we solve multiple writer in NIC? 15:19:26 <adetalhouet> #info mlemay say it might be an issue 15:20:33 <adetalhouet> #info Let's have a conversation around the layers where the conflict could happen 15:22:12 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow says NIC is the common arbitration layer 15:22:51 <adetalhouet> #info 2nd goal: Provide a controller based, performant, easy to deploy 15:23:08 <adetalhouet> #info make the netvirt implementation coexist 15:23:21 <adetalhouet> #undo 15:23:21 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x18d7c10> 15:23:34 <adetalhouet> #info make the netvirt implementation coexist between the various SDN services 15:24:54 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow would like NIC to do what NN does conceptually to handle better OpenStack 15:25:11 <helenchen> #info colindixon said, "I think that no matter how much we feel like everyone should go through NIC, there will be people who don't and they *will* solve their conflicts in some way at a lower layer." 15:25:22 <colindixon> helenchen: thanks 15:25:41 <helenchen> colindixon: you are welcome 15:26:55 <adetalhouet> #info mlemay mentioned that there is a lot of discussion around rewriting the plugin for OpenStack 15:27:45 <adetalhouet> #info gzhao asks if we're going to maintain Boulder? 15:28:00 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow says it's a use case the world would be really interested in 15:28:37 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says that this is one of the BE deliverable 15:29:02 <adetalhouet> #info we need folks to invest time in its implementation 15:29:59 <adetalhouet> #info Boulder could help to make people being engaged in ODL-NIC 15:30:17 <colindixon> I’m still following here, but had to drop off webex 15:30:21 <adetalhouet> #info mlemay says that Boulder allow you to script the Intent 15:30:45 <adetalhouet> #info mlemay says Boulder is a scripting layer on top of NIC 15:31:19 <dlenrow> Colin: Thats the comment about "including services that are not cooperation aware". Have some ideas... Should discuss. TWS call? Add a nic call? 15:31:52 <colindixon> dlenrow: I’m happy to talk whenever, I think there’s a plan ot have another meeting on Thursday at 7/10a pacific/eastern 15:31:58 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim this allow for SDN controller to have a common NB interface 15:32:04 <adetalhouet> #undo 15:32:04 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1d33bd0> 15:32:10 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says this allow for SDN controller to have a common NB interface 15:33:43 <adetalhouet> #action start the discussion on the ML 15:34:44 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says the 2 goals presented by dlenrow are in accordance with the current release planning 15:35:26 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow saying those 2 goals are the based principle of the NIC projects, and this is normal to address them 15:35:36 <adetalhouet> #undo 15:35:36 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1d33a90> 15:35:51 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow says those 2 goals are the based principles of NIC project, and this is normal to address them 15:36:25 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says that even in the Neutron community, they are ready to discuss about skipping the NB interface and going directly into MD-SAL 15:38:19 <adetalhouet> #action raphaelamorim to provide pointers about that 15:39:09 <adetalhouet> #info gvrangan_ says this is pretty much abstract and would like us to discuss around this 15:39:27 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow says that we will discuss the design as a community 15:40:49 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim mentioned that there are also bunch of stuff that need to be done to maintain the Intent, how they are manage, resolve, .. 15:41:46 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says that it would be nice to have tasks that add value to both NIC and surrounding project 15:42:07 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim referring to the 2nd goals 15:44:11 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim present the sample renderer: it's aims it to make folks who want to create their renderer to have an exemple to start with 15:44:18 <adetalhouet> #undo 15:44:18 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1d33050> 15:44:32 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim presents the sample renderer: it aims it to make folks who want to create their renderer to have an exemple to start with 15:44:45 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says this won't be part of the features 15:44:49 <adetalhouet> #undo 15:44:49 <odl_meetbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x1d33550> 15:44:53 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says this won't be part of the NIC features 15:45:53 <adetalhouet> #info it's a really open/abstract implementation 15:46:22 <adetalhouet> #info An H asks if renderer should resides in NIC or outside NIC 15:46:32 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says all renderer should be in NIC 15:47:55 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow takes a concrete exemple with Netvirt: we don't want to build a new one, we want to leverage the one from the OVSDB project 15:48:54 <adetalhouet> #info dlenrow asks if we should have another meeting the discuss issues around bringing NN and OVSDB into NIC 15:49:18 <adetalhouet> #info raphaelamorim says it's a good idea 15:50:07 <adetalhouet> #action dlenrow to send a mail to the list 15:50:25 <adetalhouet> #topic cookies 15:50:30 <adetalhouet> #endmeeting