14:00:02 <fzhadaev> #startmeeting Fuel@OPNFV
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14:00:17 <fzhadaev> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/fuel@opnfv-meet
14:00:26 <fzhadaev> #info Fedor Zhadaev
14:01:20 <z0d> #info Peter Barabas
14:01:34 <mskalski> #info Michal Skalski
14:02:26 <cyrrr> Hi, I try to install fuel master and to install it following opnfv official doc
14:02:39 <david_chou> #info David Chou
14:03:50 <NikoHermannsEric> #info Nikolas Hermanns
14:04:07 <jmorgan1> #info Jack Morgan
14:04:13 <dklenov> #info Dmitry Klenov
14:04:32 <cyrrr> in jumphost doc (http://artifacts.opnfv.org/pharos/docs/pharos-spec.html), we install a centos machine, and then we go download fuel ISO
14:04:35 <collabot> Greg_E_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
14:04:51 <Greg_E_> #info Greg Elkinbard
14:05:19 <cyrrr> but in fuel doc, we reboot jumphost with this ISO and install fuelmaster. I guess this will erase the jumphost, is it correct?
14:06:11 <NikoHermannsEric> do you use the ci/deploy.sh?
14:06:19 <billyo> #info Billy O'Mahony
14:06:22 <NikoHermannsEric> no that should not restart the jumbhost
14:06:23 <jmorgan1> cyrrr: if you install Fuel master on bare metel, yes, if you as VM then no
14:06:41 <NikoHermannsEric> ahh did not know that there is this option
14:07:27 <cyrrr> jmorgan1: I understand, but what is the official way to install jumphost/fuelmaster? this is not clear in the doc if we install fuelmaster in a kvm vm inside jumphost, the doc is confusing
14:08:51 <fzhadaev> #topic Colorado 1.0 release
14:08:52 <DanSmithEricsson> #info Daniel / Jonas / Stefan
14:09:04 <cyrrr> ok it's up to us to create a kvm vm with a fuelmaster iso, which network is needed in order for fuelmaster to work correctly (dns,pxe,etc)
14:09:20 <jmorgan1> fzhadaev: you need to end the previous meeting first
14:09:45 <jmorgan1> fzhadaev: nevermind
14:11:14 <DanSmithEricsson> cyrr - the networks are defined in the FUEL USser Guide  - a FUEL VM needs to be able to pass untagged packets on the ADMIN network to the BareMetal blades
14:11:53 <fzhadaev> #topic Plans for 2.0 and 3.0
14:12:03 <DanSmithEricsson> this is accomplished by creating a brige on the Phsycail nic of the VM host that will be used on the physical switch to your BareMetals nodes
14:12:16 <cyrrr> the doc should give a kvm template :/ Ok I will read the fuel doc about nets requirements, previously I installed fuel on bare metal and it worked like a charm
14:12:21 <DanSmithEricsson> no .. it should not
14:12:30 <DanSmithEricsson> since this is an end-user implementation
14:12:50 <cyrrr> (opnfv doc, not fuel)
14:13:10 <DanSmithEricsson> since we dont know what the end user is using you cant really say that (or it becomes impossible to supprt)
14:13:24 <DanSmithEricsson> however, the CI pipeline and scenario (as well as DHA/DEA for FUEL repo) show clearly how to use this .
14:14:13 <DanSmithEricsson> as well  - there are videos and PPT all over the wiki on how to do this (a VM to BareMEtal as well as a full virtual POD (Fuel and COmpute/COntrols)
14:14:25 <DanSmithEricsson> however these are for end-users and nto release arrtifacts
14:14:27 <DanSmithEricsson> not*
14:16:29 <cyrrr> Dan: "creating a brige on the Phsycail nic" ok I understand
14:17:05 <NikoHermannsEric> JonasBjurel: Is it ok to merge patches already to stable/C-2?
14:17:21 <cyrrr> "there are videos and PPT" yes I'm sure fuel people did it, but I talked about opnfv install manual that is nonexistent
14:17:46 <DanSmithEricsson> no.. this is a video on OPNFV
14:17:54 <DanSmithEricsson> done by me for OPNFV that shows end-users how to do it
14:18:00 <DanSmithEricsson> not fuel guys.. but FUEL@OPNFV
14:18:07 <cyrrr> ah ok
14:18:14 <DanSmithEricsson> if you look at any of the FUEL labs the iformation in PPT and a video is there
14:18:20 <DanSmithEricsson> it shows step by step how to do it
14:19:02 <cyrrr> yeah, ok this was not written in http://artifacts.opnfv.org/fuel/docs/installationprocedure/index.html
14:19:14 <DanSmithEricsson> because its not a releae artifcats
14:19:18 <cyrrr> ok I 'll go see it, thank you
14:19:27 <fzhadaev> #topic What's next? Plans for D release
14:19:30 <cyrrr> Dan: euh ok
14:19:47 <cyrrr> maybe it should ;)
14:19:57 <DanSmithEricsson> https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/pharos/PHAROS-166%3A+++++++PaaS+PoC?preview=/6820226/6820225/Install_Nested_Openstack.pdf
14:20:05 <DanSmithEricsson> there you go Cyrrs..  that has what you want
14:20:58 <cyrrr> yes, many thanks Dan
14:21:04 <DanSmithEricsson> i dont think so(cyrr) - cause there is a End user guide and operations guide
14:21:19 <DanSmithEricsson> the "way" that a person sets up their data centre is impossible to guess
14:21:29 <DanSmithEricsson> for example - are you gusing ubuntu, Centors or Windows torun your VM
14:21:37 <DanSmithEricsson> and then i have to have instructiosn for that
14:21:47 <DanSmithEricsson> are you using VB,ESXI,KVM, etc -
14:22:05 <DanSmithEricsson> since all of this is the end-user Datacenter, its really impossibel to do it an release way
14:22:12 <DanSmithEricsson> so I can give "an example" to use what we do release
14:22:19 <DanSmithEricsson> and from there an end -user can do it
14:22:46 <DanSmithEricsson> keep in mind, that at the very top of the FUEL user guide  (which we get rom upstream) it assumes that people are familiar with virtualiztion and switching techogolies
14:25:15 <cyrrr> yes and I am, but i searched an official way to use a jumphost, a fuelmaster, a jenkins slave the common way as I will have to use jenkins scripts that will not work if I install fuelmaster like I want
14:26:18 <DanSmithEricsson> official ? in terms of end-user of OPNFV or in terms of building a jumphost to participate as a Datacentre in OPNFV (you are proping up a lab).
14:26:36 <DanSmithEricsson> since the jumphost and jenkins is not for the end-user - its specifc to running in the CI pipeline
14:26:42 <DanSmithEricsson> and has its own set of requiremnts
14:26:52 <DanSmithEricsson> from a end-user poitn of view, you can always build this "as you want"
14:27:12 <DanSmithEricsson> in the end - just as :) and ill help you setup whatever you want
14:27:26 <cyrrr> yes, and it works very well thanks for fuel doc,installer and gui
14:27:43 <DanSmithEricsson> no sweat.. have fun.. and ask away :)
14:28:32 <cyrrr> ok maybe it's is jenkins for opnfv to give these informations
14:28:53 <cyrrr> to integrate with their jenkins infra
14:29:00 <cyrrr> master
14:29:45 <DanSmithEricsson> well. there is instruction for how to add jenkins to OPNFV CI
14:29:47 <DanSmithEricsson> and that is one thing
14:29:55 <DanSmithEricsson> and then there is the "user for FUEL"
14:30:01 <DanSmithEricsson> and that is different doc
14:30:27 <cyrrr> yes, but where is the fuel/jenkins integration instructions?
14:31:05 <DanSmithEricsson> there is "jekins integration" and that is ? should be agnostic (not just for FUEL)
14:31:05 <cyrrr> maybe nobody did it previously and it's up to me to integrate them? I would like to know ;)
14:31:24 <DanSmithEricsson> no.. i just brought up a bunch of jenkins node in the new DC this week
14:31:33 <cyrrr> ah agnostic, yeah but if we install fuel as we want, this will be quite hard
14:31:34 <DanSmithEricsson> Fatih, Jack and Infra group has that information
14:31:53 <DanSmithEricsson> what are you asking? aer you wanting to hook into jenkins in OPNFVor are you wanting to deploy FUEL in your datacenteR?
14:32:32 <cyrrr> excuses me I did said nothing about our goal
14:32:48 <DanSmithEricsson> :) - i was trying to understand :)
14:33:19 <cyrrr> we want to create a new pod for Orange paris, integrated with jenkins server to allow different sort of installs from it
14:33:36 <DanSmithEricsson> ok.. so there is a Jenkins process to follow in the INFRA group
14:33:46 <DanSmithEricsson> and in that process, you can decide what type of lab you want
14:33:48 <DanSmithEricsson> (FUEL, etc)
14:33:56 <DanSmithEricsson> and what scnearios your hw will support and all that good stuff
14:34:04 <cyrrr> we have a "manual pod" now, stable, that we use for experiments, but we would like to offer a pod to community
14:34:42 <DanSmithEricsson> when it comes to implmentation - it will come out in the discussion as to how to implement.
14:34:43 <cyrrr> Dan: ok sorry so I have to contact them, is there an IRC channel?
14:35:00 <DanSmithEricsson> i have to run, but lets chat about this some more.. jack is on here and can point yoy in the right direction or oboarding
14:35:57 <cyrrr> ok. Sorry, who is Jack (his nickname)?
14:36:32 <z0d> jmorgan1
14:36:41 <fzhadaev> #topic Free discussion
14:36:58 <z0d> cyrrr: jmorgan1
14:37:09 <cyrrr> ok tks z0d ;)
14:52:02 <dklenov> #info Fuel Newton PTL Vladimir Kozhukalov (vkozhukalov@mirantis.com)
14:54:06 <fzhadaev> #endmeeting