14:01:07 #startmeeting OPNFV TSC 14:01:07 Meeting started Tue Oct 21 14:01:07 2014 UTC. The chair is dlenrow. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:07 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:18 #info Dave Lenrow 14:01:32 #info Chris Price 14:02:29 #info Brian Smith 14:04:12 #info Ashiq Khan 14:04:21 #info Wenjing Chu 14:04:26 Bin Hu 14:04:32 hello 14:04:39 morning 14:04:48 #info Bin Hu 14:04:52 HI Guys, and good morning/afternoon 14:05:04 Hello 14:05:08 Please for TSC members use the # info tag to announce yourself 14:05:51 #info reminder: all attendance (to establish quorum) and votes will be done on IRC. IRC use is mandatory to attend. 14:06:21 #info pals 14:07:02 #info TSC members should show their presence by typing "#info member name" on IRC 14:07:39 #info Frank joined 14:07:59 #info Uli joined 14:08:22 #info Tom Nadeau via audio only 14:10:08 #info I'll need to leave by 8.30am PT; in case we run the full 2hrs, Palani will fill in for me 14:10:21 #info Please note the antitrust and other warngings 14:10:25 #link https://www.opnfv.org/about/bylaws-and-policies/antitrust-policy-compliance-checklist 14:10:51 #info chris announces and begins recording of this meeting 14:11:04 #topic approve last week's minutes 14:11:14 #info approved by lack of dissent 14:11:25 #topic project proposals 14:14:40 #info first project proposal introduced by Uli 14:14:43 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/continuous_integration_ci 14:14:53 thanks Uli 14:19:29 #info Uli volunteers that this is very long and my be too much info for proposal, asks for feedback 14:20:05 #info dlenrow suggests we try to keep project proposal to scope and generality and move deep design/description to project work product. 14:20:36 #info CP points out that some of content describes things that will be provided by LF, and thus not part of CI project 14:23:43 #info Policy for branching may want to be per-project. Is in-scope for TSC development steering, but out of scope for CI project 14:25:08 #info Bryan Sullivan 14:26:20 #action Begin work on a draft development process draft. Frank, Palani, CP 14:26:29 I would also help with the CI project. I cannot unmute myself 14:26:41 Sorry, development processs 14:27:01 * ChrisPriceAB Tapio I will unmute you centrally 14:27:09 #info 14:27:22 #action Schedule a call regarding development process Palani 14:30:57 #info Palani points out that use-case subproject has identified some basic use cases and traffic patterns to test. Can provide basis for canonical/infra VNFs in OPNFV 14:32:14 #info Uli describes possible need for developer smoke test that is less involved than larger system/release test coverage. 14:36:28 #info dlenrow reminds that any gap between CI coverage and release coverage will lead to pain. Need to make as small as possible 14:38:40 #info Discussion about where glue code should live before or instead of pushing to upstream projects. 14:40:44 #info development process for OPNFV should include guidance for how we structure code that needs to build on upstream projects 14:43:13 #info frank suggests subprojects within development process to address different (local integration, test, global integration) needs 14:44:30 #info frank asks for follow up meeting this week on this topic 14:44:48 #action Uli to schedule meeting to discuss dev process around upstream co-existence 14:45:19 #info Send suggestions to email list to kick off upstream dev process discussion 14:46:40 #info dlenrow we need to discuss assumption that we will continuously pull top of dev tree for upstreams 14:48:53 #info palani suggests we need to plan our releases (stable, latest, etc.) within OPNFV 14:50:19 #info agree to follow up in breakout meetings and close discussion of CI project in order to get time on other proposals 14:50:52 #topic Testing Project Proposals 14:52:58 #info there is a thursday AM meeting weekly to discuss test project. 14:53:04 #info re the test meeting - send a calendar invite to the list - that ensures it gets on our calendars best 14:54:04 #action Pranav Mehta to put test meeting info on Wiki 14:54:18 #info agree to discuss test project after groups next weekly meeting 14:54:59 #parviz suggests that we prioritize discussions of work items for weekly agenda. 14:57:14 #info parviz suggests that we prioritize discussions of work items for weekly agenda. 15:00:03 #topic packaging 15:00:19 #info CP asks which automation tool (chef, puppet, etc)? 15:01:11 #info Frank suggests this "continuous deployment" is possibly a standalone project scope 15:01:37 #info CP points out tradeoffs between choosing a packaging tool versus allowing latitude for selection 15:03:00 #info CP suggests we add packaging tooling to Uli's call this week 15:04:23 https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/resource_management 15:04:34 #topic resource management project 15:04:47 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/resource_management 15:06:10 #info Ashiq leads discussion on proposal doc 15:07:58 #info Ashiq points out that this functionality may not need to live permanently within OPNFV. Probably moves upstream. 15:10:13 #info summary calendar scheduling for compute, storage, and network resources by exposing NBIs from OpenStack 15:14:45 #info Project Proposal: List of contributors & Committers will remain open until the project approval vote by TSC. 15:16:58 #info Clarification on founding committers. CP restates that these must be long-term, planning to be a significant participant. 15:17:34 #info Parviz asks what is relationship/requirement to cite e.g. ETSI documents in projects/proposals 15:18:28 #info Ashiq states that reference in proposal is for informational purposes and cites an existing NFV doc in support 15:19:16 https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/doctor_fault_mangement_and_maintenance 15:19:42 #topic Doctor Project - fault management and maintenance 15:19:52 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/doctor_fault_mangement_and_maintenance 15:20:38 #info Ashiq notes that this describes functionality missing from OpenStack 15:21:58 #info diagrams show block diagram of root cause analysis and mapping faults to affected users/VMs, etc. 15:22:48 #info detect, inform affected user/tenant, instructions on if/how to recover VMs 15:25:42 #info Palani asks when/where do we discuss details of individual faults and responses. 15:29:05 #info Project proposal "Copper (Virtual Infrastructure Deployment Policies)" is at https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/virtual_infrastructure_deployment_policies 15:29:12 #action dlenrow to schedule call this week to discuss S/R planning 15:29:39 #topic virtual infra deployment project 15:29:49 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/virtual_infrastructure_deployment_policies 15:31:32 #info Bryan introduces policy as means to define/deploy VNFs 15:32:41 #info propose that we start from use case requirements and propose policy means to achieve 15:33:48 #info seeking contributors and committers 15:38:20 #info Question: Is this just a requrements. Project? 15:38:41 #info discussion about relationship between project proposals, requirements, implementation 15:39:05 #info dlenrow points out that project scope should be much bigger than a single release. Release is a subset of scope in something larger. 15:39:29 #info IPv6-enabled Vanilla OPNFV project proposal is at https://wiki.opnfv.org/ipv6-enabled_vanilla_opnfv 15:39:40 #topic Recurring weekly calls on general technical content 15:40:32 #info it would be great for us to coordinate project-specific calls on the wiki 15:40:34 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/ipv6-enabled_vanilla_opnfv 15:40:56 #info may I suggest to upload requirement project proposals under the /requirement_projects 15:41:13 #info CP asks for volunteer to insure that all recurring meetings are maintained on wiki 15:41:50 #action bin to organize wiki meeting list 15:43:13 #info posting project proposal to wiki and sending email announcing to TSC officially starts the two week public review period for a proposal 15:44:18 #action CP to call meetign and propose project structure back to TSC 15:44:25 #topi release naming convention 15:44:37 #topic release naming convention 15:45:35 #info palani say Ray has created poll to gather feedback for release naming themes. 15:46:10 #action Ray will email list to announce URL and open the voting window. Plan to post tomorrow and leave open for a week. 15:49:18 #vote to start release name theme voting with the five candidates: cities, gemstones, rivers, nobel prize winners, mountains? 15:49:30 #vote +1 15:49:51 #startvote to start release name theme voting with the five candidates: cities, gemstones, rivers, nobel prize winners, mountains? 15:49:51 #vote +1 15:49:53 #vote +1 15:49:54 #vote +1 15:49:54 #vote +1 15:49:56 #vote +1 15:50:00 #vote +1 15:50:04 #vote +1 15:50:06 #vote +1 15:50:07 #vote +1 15:50:11 #vote+1 15:50:32 #agreed to start release name theme voting with the five candidates: cities, gemstones, rivers, nobel prize winners, mountains? 15:51:39 #info Vote is open to everyone. Not limited to TSC members or companies, etc. 15:51:49 #topic Open Agenda 15:52:36 #info Ray asks about need for GoToMeeting setup/accounts for other meetings and recurring calls. Currently cannot run simultaneous meetings due to license. 15:53:24 #topic: liaison with ETSI NFV status? 15:53:44 #info proposes getting more accounts and delegating admin controls to community. 15:53:59 #info CP suggests in short term we avoid concurrent meetings. 15:55:15 #info try not to use corporate conferencing resources, invitations, etc. to prevent apparent corporate bias 15:56:00 #info Thinh_: Thanks for helping with minutes. 15:56:49 #info Asks status of liaison. Points out we have opportunity to interact at NFV 8 and should plan for same 15:57:29 #info CP states we don't have a SPOC for liaison yet. 15:57:55 #info noted that board level liaising probably also going on. Need to sync 15:58:16 #info asks what is our official dependency on ETSI NFV SIG? Need to clarify? 15:58:43 #action CP to put liaison discussion on agenda for next week 15:59:43 #info Daylight savings change in Europe coming up. Europe go one hour earlier on last Sunday October, one week before USA. Don't be fooled! 16:00:02 #endmeeting