================================= #opnfv-meeting: OPNFV TSC Meeting ================================= Meeting started by ChrisPriceAB at 14:01:44 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2014/opnfv-meeting.2014-10-28-14.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Ashiq Khan (ashiq_, 14:02:00) * TSC members roll call (ChrisPriceAB, 14:02:03) * Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 14:02:25) * Steve Gordon (proxy for Chris Wright) (sgordon_, 14:05:01) * Wenjing Chu (Wenjing, 14:05:06) * Serge Manning (Serge_, 14:05:09) * Frank Brockners (frankbrockners, 14:05:11) * Uli Kleber (ulik, 14:05:12) * Pranav Mehta (Pranav, 14:05:17) * Brian Smith (B_Smith, 14:05:21) * Palani (Palani, 14:05:33) * dlenrow (dlenrow, 14:08:36) * CP to add to agenda: discussion of releasing FOSS vs non-FOSS VNFs (dlenrow, 14:10:23) * OpenStack metup in Paris. (ChrisPriceAB, 14:10:58) * NFV sub-team activities are planned in the open stack conference. (ChrisPriceAB, 14:12:54) * discussion of ways to sync OPNFV with OpenStack NFV discussions at Paris and beyond (dlenrow, 14:13:25) * multiple folks point out existence of NFV tracks at Paris (dlenrow, 14:13:45) * LINK: http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/b3ccf1464e335b703fc126f068142792 (sgordon_, 14:13:51) * LINK: http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/aa14a2bd2a4c1afa1aa24a60c3131fcc (sgordon_, 14:14:00) * LINK: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV (sgordon_, 14:14:05) * links from sgordon to Paris sessions he's aware of above (dlenrow, 14:14:24) * Wed eve and Thurs morning are times we should join OpenStack community sessions (dlenrow, 14:15:28) * CP proposes OPNFV pre-meeting (dlenrow, 14:15:54) * dlenrow try to get room and send invite to list for Tues or Wed AM premeeting (dlenrow, 14:16:37) * ACTION: dlenrow get room and send invite (dlenrow, 14:17:15) * question about remote participation in premeeting (dlenrow, 14:17:55) * and more importantly is the meeting open to remote non registered attendance? (bryan_att, 14:18:07) * likely etherpad and IRC only at summit. (dlenrow, 14:18:25) * we can try to get GTM working too (dlenrow, 14:20:23) * HELP: (Pranav, 14:21:44) * should be able to use the new GTM account that we just setup if needed (rpaik, 14:21:54) * asks is this instead of or in addition to TSC call next tuesday (dlenrow, 14:22:02) * clarification We will have a TSC meeting at regular time and in addititon another meeting of folks that are attending F2F (dlenrow, 14:24:02) * both meetings will try to have common room at summit and include remote folks with all available tools (IRC, etherpad, GTM) (dlenrow, 14:24:32) * Uli updates that we agreed to keep project proposal short and simple. Problem statement. Push lots of detail to project work items later. (dlenrow, 14:25:46) * Offers to show new, concise project proposal draft (dlenrow, 14:26:15) * LINK: https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/call_to_continue_ci_project_proposal (rpaik, 14:27:38) * ACTION: Uli to rearrange existing doc so we he can submit and start 2 week public review period. Thursday 10/30 deadline. (dlenrow, 14:32:23) * dlenrow asks if this is time to discuss parallel progress on CI prototyping and experimentation (dlenrow, 14:35:19) * CP suggests we discuss on mail lists to keep agenda moving (dlenrow, 14:35:39) * Frank points out we can build a non-official sandbox where folks can do work without waiting on official OPNFV infrastructure (dlenrow, 14:36:21) * CP asks rpaik about LF ability to create infrastructure sandbox to allow collaboration. (dlenrow, 14:37:08) * ACTION: rpaik to inquire about lead times in LF and report to lists (dlenrow, 14:37:26) * CP suggests we continue on the lists. (dlenrow, 14:38:52) * Trevor provides update on test subgroup (dlenrow, 14:39:41) * first weekly call started last week. Thursday 7AM Pacific is recurring time. Notes on wiiki (dlenrow, 14:40:12) * 4 streams of work (dlenrow, 14:40:20) * test bed infras Orange/CableLabs are drafting proposal based on studying similar communities. First cut of doc late next week (dlenrow, 14:41:32) * HW/SW definition of the reference platform: Using what's available today. Made proposal for hosted Infra. Working on proposal. (dlenrow, 14:42:45) * System under test HW/SW proposal based on available parts. (dlenrow, 14:43:36) * IT Testbed Tooling Dell has made a proposal addressing CI and test interface, also proposed toolset and getting community input (dlenrow, 14:44:23) * Use Cases: Palani/Cisco leading macro/micro benchmarking and initial use cases identified.. Proposing 4 major use cases from ETSI (dlenrow, 14:45:27) * working from ETSI cases: virtual provider edge, Virtual PCE, CDN, home gateway. Also identified VNF candidates (dlenrow, 14:46:14) * Palani adds he needs to resolve policy regarding VNF targets for testing (FOSS, non-FOSS) (dlenrow, 14:47:01) * CP asks how we structure repo/infra for each of the use cases? (dlenrow, 14:49:03) * Virtual PCE above should have been Virtual EPC (not to be confused with virtual CPE) (dlenrow, 14:50:16) * discussion of structuring tests/use-cases. (dlenrow, 14:51:10) * Trevor suggests that eventually we propose to TSC (dlenrow, 14:52:12) * Pranav suggests that use-case repo could be different from other Test infra repo (dlenrow, 14:53:12) * Pavani has done some work towards some of these use cases and can provide some suggestions. (dlenrow, 14:54:19) * Pavani says he's headed towards split/distributed EPC because that's how most deployments will work (dlenrow, 14:54:55) * Parviz asks when/if TSC will be asked to approve specifics (dlenrow, 14:56:02) * Pranav points out this is just discussion. Proposal should include this when brought for approval (dlenrow, 14:57:07) * dlenrow reminds that project proposal is mostly about scope. Solving the specific problems in scope becomes work product of project. Need to get proposals queued for approval (dlenrow, 14:57:47) * Bin asks about US daylight savings change. Meeting is pinned to US Pacific TZ and will follow DST rules there. (dlenrow, 14:59:07) * dlenrow asks if there is a schedule to post the test project proposal for review. CP says no deadline yet. (dlenrow, 15:01:35) * Palani clarafies that Use cases and test infra need to be two different projects. CP assume we'll get more than one project from (dlenrow, 15:02:14) * Parviz 1) Do we plan to have VNFs in release 1.0 (dlenrow, 15:02:46) * CP we won't release VNFS or Mano components (dlenrow, 15:03:08) * simultaneous release process (ChrisPriceAB, 15:05:14) * dlenrow states the discussion on simultaneous release was agreed to focus on the release rpocess and delegate the perifferal problems to other projects and processes to solve. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:05:55) * the simultaneous release process is planned to fulfill a 6 month release cadence (ChrisPriceAB, 15:06:23) * the proposal is available on the WiKi indicating dates and process. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:06:49) * dlenrow taking outcome of SR discussion meeting and and build draft. (dlenrow, 15:08:11) * ACTION: dlenrow to upload the process to the WiKi (ChrisPriceAB, 15:08:19) * ACTION: dlenrow to post draft SR document to wiki (dlenrow, 15:08:27) * ACTION: dlenrow to post draft SR document to wiki Thursdayt 10/30 (dlenrow, 15:08:56) * 2015.1 ("Kilo") release: Apr 23 (sgordon_, 15:10:24) * CP reminds current board commitment is V 1.0 release March 2015. Another date we've discussed is May 2015. (dlenrow, 15:10:31) * End of may would be after OpenStack Kilo and ODL Lithium (dlenrow, 15:11:03) * CP asks for discussion of goals for delivering V 1.0 (dlenrow, 15:11:40) * Pranav asks if we have created table based on upstream dates that show possible release windows. (dlenrow, 15:12:29) * CP took action last week and this is in progress. (dlenrow, 15:12:46) * frankbrockners reminds we agreed to walk before run approach. Asks can we all agree that we do little more than pull upstreams together and show packaging and infra (dlenrow, 15:14:07) * points out above would be fairly independent of upstream schedules? (dlenrow, 15:14:29) * still need to pick date for "walk". frankbrockners doesn't feel we have sufficient info to pick a hard date yet (dlenrow, 15:15:23) * Pranav wants to talk about what it means to "walk" (dlenrow, 15:15:59) * frankbrockners suggest first release point at stable upstreams (dlenrow, 15:16:26) * CP points out that we will have to hold patches to even walk and thus non-trivial to "walk" (dlenrow, 15:17:08) * kernelcdub notes that we can still deliver stuff outside of SRs (dlenrow, 15:18:55) * CP notes that dlenrow SR proposal needs to address stable updates. (dlenrow, 15:19:18) * kernelcdub adds that we can release pieces "piecemeal" (dlenrow, 15:19:44) * Summary on dates: CP we can't yet define a date. BOD date hasn't been confirmed or denied by TSC. Need more info/progress (dlenrow, 15:20:53) * LINK: https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/private/opnfv-tech-discuss/2014-October/000128.html (sgordon_, 15:25:08) * Tapio's on list response regarding critical functionality for NFV (sgordon_, 15:25:22) * LINK: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV#Development_Efforts (Tapio_, 15:25:59) * LINK: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV#Development_Efforts (sgordon_, 15:26:07) * LINK: http://nfv.russellbryant.net/ (Tapio_, 15:26:27) * Possible Kilo requirements?: CPU pinning, large pages support, enhanced NUMA awareness, VLAN trunking to VM (sgordon_, 15:26:44) * How can OPNFV work with upstream communities on requirements and ultimately feature roadmaps (sgordon_, 15:27:11) * Ashiq suggests having formal liasion for upstream projects (rpaik, 15:28:01) * cdub suggests bringing OPNFV developer resources along with requirements to upstream projects (sgordon_, 15:30:22) * requirements for being included in the build/ci system? (sgordon_, 15:37:43) * Can look at both FOSS & proprietary VNFs. For proprietary VNFs, we need to consider issues around licensing, performanace data, etc. (rpaik, 15:43:39) * release naming poll (ChrisPriceAB, 15:47:25) * the poll has been open for a while, will close at the end of this week. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:47:44) * the top two options are quite close on voting. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:48:01) * ACTION: Test & Perf sub-team to make recommendations on VNFs (rpaik, 15:48:08) * the use of an [ACTION REQUIRED] tag is proposed to be used when sending e-mail to the lists requiring action from list members (ChrisPriceAB, 15:51:20) * goto meeting account for tSC (ChrisPriceAB, 15:52:48) * we have a new GoTo meeting account for use in technical and TSC discussions. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:53:10) * Ray has the username and password that can be requested for meeting organisers when running GoTo meetings (ChrisPriceAB, 15:53:33) * meetings cannot overlap due to restrictions on the account. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:54:00) * do we have a master meeting schedule on the wiki? (bryan_att, 15:54:19) * Any other business (ChrisPriceAB, 15:54:21) * Ashiq raises the topic of reaching out to and working with upstream communities. (ChrisPriceAB, 15:54:40) * OpenStack NFV subteam meeting tomorrow at 1600 UTC (sgordon_, 15:55:39) * Guidelines should be described in the development process. Palani has established a meeting call to begin to work on that between 07:00 - 08:00 PST tomorrow (ChrisPriceAB, 15:55:46) * LINK: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV#Agenda_for_next_meeting (sgordon_, 15:56:01) * if we could get those leading project meetings to update it, I can create a calendar page on the wiki to capture meetings (bryan_att, 15:56:51) * tomorrow's NFV subteam meeting largely focused on summit planning/finalization (sgordon_, 15:57:00) Meeting ended at 15:58:33 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * dlenrow * dlenrow get room and send invite * dlenrow to upload the process to the WiKi * dlenrow to post draft SR document to wiki * dlenrow to post draft SR document to wiki Thursdayt 10/30 * rpaik * rpaik to inquire about lead times in LF and report to lists * **UNASSIGNED** * Uli to rearrange existing doc so we he can submit and start 2 week public review period. Thursday 10/30 deadline. * Test & Perf sub-team to make recommendations on VNFs People present (lines said) --------------------------- * dlenrow (80) * ChrisPriceAB (30) * sgordon_ (17) * rpaik (8) * cdub (6) * bryan_att (5) * dneary (4) * collabot (4) * Pranav (3) * Tapio_ (2) * ulik (2) * frankbrockners (1) * ashiq_ (1) * Palani (1) * Serge_ (1) * Wenjing (1) * B_Smith (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4