========================= #opnfv-meeting: OPNFV TSC ========================= Meeting started by dlenrow at 15:08:11 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2014/opnfv-meeting.2014-11-04-15.08.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * role call (dlenrow, 15:08:21) * dlenrow (dlenrow, 15:08:26) * Chris Price (ChrisPriceAB, 15:08:27) * Frank Brockners (frankbrockners, 15:08:37) * uli (uli__, 15:09:26) * Tapio Tallgren (Nokia) (TapioT, 15:10:19) * Thinh Nguyenphu (Nokia) (Thinh_, 15:11:22) * Andrea (dlenrow, 15:12:00) * Pranav Mehta (Pranav, 15:12:27) * Bin (AT&T) (bin_, 15:12:35) * minutes from last meeting approved by lack of opposition (dlenrow, 15:13:01) * board meeting summary added to today's agenda (dlenrow, 15:13:49) * LINK: https://etherpad.opnfv.org/ (aricg, 15:16:17) * LINK: https://jenkins.opendaylight.org/controller/ (aricg, 15:16:17) * LINK: https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/ (aricg, 15:16:17) * LINK: https://jira.opnfv.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa (aricg, 15:16:17) * LINK: https://lists.opnfv.org/ (aricg, 15:16:17) * LINK: https://ask.opnfv.org/questions/ (aricg, 15:16:19) * project status (dlenrow, 15:17:24) * CP notes that in community discussion question was raised why we have a login/password. (dlenrow, 15:19:26) * idea was to prevent spammers (dlenrow, 15:19:52) * discussion of ways to make access easier (dlenrow, 15:20:11) * ACTION: aric to investigate removing password protection on OPNFV Etherpad (dlenrow, 15:22:17) * Hui (rpaik, 15:23:13) * Uli asks whether there is a way to discover Etherpads, answer no. You need to know of them ahead of time (dlenrow, 15:23:39) * jenkins is setup, correct link to reach it is https://build.opnfv.org/ci/ (dlenrow, 15:25:05) * gerrit is setup, link is https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/ (dlenrow, 15:25:50) * Etherpad is https://etherpad.opnfv.org/ (dlenrow, 15:26:14) * CP reminds that we need a getting started guide for devs in OPNFV that describes how to start using all these tools (dlenrow, 15:26:54) * gerrit is where we do/manage code reviews (dlenrow, 15:27:28) * LINK: opnfv-helpdesk@rt.linuxfoundation.org for opening tickets (rpaik, 15:27:35) * Jira is setup https://jira.opnfv.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa (dlenrow, 15:27:49) * question from Pals about how/where we run tools that need specific OS e.g. Linux (dlenrow, 15:30:22) * fbrockners points out that compute/memory requirements for OPNFV dev may not fit on laptops very well. (dlenrow, 15:31:06) * discussion about getting pool of development systems with needed resources to support devs logging in remotely (dlenrow, 15:32:31) * aric suggess we might be able to do on google compute (dlenrow, 15:32:48) * ACTION: palani and Aric to propose a solution (dlenrow, 15:33:09) * discussion of which linux distro to include in our OPNFV OStack distro (dlenrow, 15:39:22) * Tom N suggests OpenStack on Ubuntu is the only combination that is easy to use and non-commercial (dlenrow, 15:40:29) * clarify above non-commercial means free, main trunk (dlenrow, 15:41:15) * devstack is an easy way to get started for developers (if they have 8g+ of RAM) it supports Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty), Fedora 20 and CentOS/RHEL 6.5 (aricg, 15:41:50) * CP points out that long term we need to support many linux distros (dlenrow, 15:42:15) * general agreement that if a commercial distro helped us get rel 1.0 out the door, (dlenrow, 15:42:54) * TN points out that we agreed that we won't release any commercial stuff among our artifacts (dlenrow, 15:43:50) * Frank suggests we post to the list that we plan to use Ubuntu and see if community objects (dlenrow, 15:44:20) * ACTION: fbrockners email list regarding Ubuntu selection proposal (dlenrow, 15:44:52) * Tapio asks did we agree to use packstack? (dlenrow, 15:46:37) * fbrockners suggests that toolchain and linux distro are coupled and we need to have more discussion about the choices (dlenrow, 15:47:38) * We have prevously discussed making the packaging tool an upstream project that we pull in (dlenrow, 15:48:11) * agreement that we need more discussion on packaging tool (dlenrow, 15:48:52) * question re: what does ODL do. answer: Karafe which is java specific and won't solve our multi-language project requirements (dlenrow, 15:50:06) * CP suggests we create a wiki page for a dev sandbox and make Palani project lead (dlenrow, 15:51:29) * ACTION: palani to create wiki page for dev sandbox,, will be project lead, Contributors welcome, contact pals (dlenrow, 15:52:19) * ACTION: CP to start the wiki for dev sandbox. (dlenrow, 15:52:40) * dlenrow found tool that converts doc/pdf to wiki language so we don't have to learn it (dlenrow, 15:53:38) * Ray's list of topics (dlenrow, 15:54:27) * question re: open mail list archives to anyone, even if not subscribed to list? (dlenrow, 15:55:07) * CP points out that if we send a link to somebody outside the community, they can't follow without subscribing. (dlenrow, 15:55:44) * Agreed by lack of objection to open archives to anyone (not by official vote) (dlenrow, 15:56:29) * ACTION: CP to send email to list informing that we plan to open the archives to all. (dlenrow, 15:56:59) * agreed not to decide now on opening archives, will wait for response to CP email from community (dlenrow, 15:57:21) * Q: Do we want to have a meetup event at LF collaboration event Feb 18-20 in Sonoma. ? (dlenrow, 15:59:30) * note: conflicts with Chinese Lunar New Year, this would be one of 4 per year. (dlenrow, 16:00:05) * question is there a better time or venue for 1Q2014? (dlenrow, 16:01:01) * M-P suggests we colocate with ETSI, in Prague, 2/24-27 (dlenrow, 16:02:52) * ACTION: ray to compose email describing 1Q2015 hackfest options and get community input. (dlenrow, 16:04:04) * CP points out that if we get free room/venue from LF in Sonoma, there's no reason not to have hackfest and folks in CA might as well have F2F (dlenrow, 16:04:55) * pramesh@linuxfoundation.org (rpaik, 16:07:46) * anyone planning to blog re: OStack summit? Anyone interested in doing so should contact pramesh@linuxfoundation.org (dlenrow, 16:08:34) * marie-paul to check about Prague availability and contact vanessa Herick (dlenrow, 16:09:27) * Vanessa’s email @LF vheric@linuxfoundation.org (rpaik, 16:10:55) * Time of OPNFV TSC call is not convenient for Asia. There have been some complaints. Proposing 6AM pacific on tuesdays. (dlenrow, 16:10:59) * ACTION: ray to propose this new time to the TSC list and ask for feedback (dlenrow, 16:13:13) * CI project update (dlenrow, 16:13:45) * Uli hasn't gotten much feedback. Needs more responses. before he can progress. (dlenrow, 16:14:48) * Need to advertise the location of project proposals so that folks look. (dlenrow, 16:15:33) * CP suggests a meeting (GTM) to discuss/review CI Proposal (dlenrow, 16:16:12) * CP reminds process: put proposal on wiki, email to TSC list, two week public review, (dlenrow, 16:17:09) * dlenrow asks does lack of CI Project approval keep us from progressing the CI work? (dlenrow, 16:17:37) * CP no hard reason, but generally we need to start getting projects formalized ASAP (dlenrow, 16:18:13) * ACTION: Uli to setup meeting to review CI proposal. (dlenrow, 16:19:32) * CP reminds we need to know who can commit developers to work on CI (dlenrow, 16:20:18) * Uli states that he expects/hopes HP, ericsson, RH, provide resources (dlenrow, 16:21:21) * CP encourages folks to research their resource commitment plans. We need contributors/committers (dlenrow, 16:22:06) * marie-paul asks whether LF will provide the sandbox Infrastructure (dlenrow, 16:22:33) * other project status (dlenrow, 16:23:46) * Uli reminds we have two projects that should begin 2 week review period (dlenrow, 16:24:47) * parser project and IPV6 project are ready for this. (dlenrow, 16:25:20) * policy project not ready quite, resource reservation project also not there yet (dlenrow, 16:25:50) * call this week hope to get these two ready to start review (dlenrow, 16:26:10) * ACTION: Uli to make sure emails get sent to start clock on the review period (dlenrow, 16:29:20) * Bin's weekly thursday calls will continue to provide venue to review project proposals (dlenrow, 16:29:50) * pals asks should he create a project around benchmarking for well known use cases (dlenrow, 16:34:34) * we agree to discuss on lists and at next TSC. Need a general approach to defining/mapping projects to work we do (dlenrow, 16:37:06) * Need to resolve the questions about what we make a project ASAP (dlenrow, 16:39:05) * clarify requirements for creating project. 1) email to TSC announcing project proposal and begin (minimum) two weeks public review 2) email to TSC asking to approve a project that has had at least two weeks public review (dlenrow, 16:41:00) * reminder, if your project doesn't need LF infra setup (e.g. requirements project) work can begin without project approval (dlenrow, 16:42:33) * Even for documentation projects we want git/gerrit/etc. so we plan to create a repo for all projects. (dlenrow, 16:44:31) * no decision taken on moving project proposals from wiki to source conrol tools (dlenrow, 16:47:32) * ACTION: CP to share slides he presented to the BOD (dlenrow, 16:47:53) * OPNFV BOD summary (dlenrow, 16:48:09) * CP presented three categories of projects, upstream, transient, OPNFV (dlenrow, 16:48:46) * CP updated on some tool choices and project proposals (dlenrow, 16:49:13) * CP informed BOD that we need more headcount assigned, more community engagement (dlenrow, 16:49:45) * CP informed BOD that we need and are working on upstream project timing and implications for our relese (dlenrow, 16:50:29) * Uli asks should we start to decide what use cases to try and support in first release. (dlenrow, 16:52:16) * CP points out we need to get an SR process in place before we can decide this (dlenrow, 16:52:39) * OStack summit activity (dlenrow, 16:55:19) * working on making sure we cover NFV OS sessions. (dlenrow, 16:56:17) * ACTION: Tapio to work with aric and Jonne Soininen to start wiki and writeup of developers beginner guide (dlenrow, 16:57:05) Meeting ended at 16:57:44 UTC. Action items, by person ----------------------- * pals * palani to create wiki page for dev sandbox,, will be project lead, Contributors welcome, contact pals * **UNASSIGNED** * aric to investigate removing password protection on OPNFV Etherpad * palani and Aric to propose a solution * fbrockners email list regarding Ubuntu selection proposal * CP to start the wiki for dev sandbox. * CP to send email to list informing that we plan to open the archives to all. * ray to compose email describing 1Q2015 hackfest options and get community input. * ray to propose this new time to the TSC list and ask for feedback * Uli to setup meeting to review CI proposal. * Uli to make sure emails get sent to start clock on the review period * CP to share slides he presented to the BOD * Tapio to work with aric and Jonne Soininen to start wiki and writeup of developers beginner guide People present (lines said) --------------------------- * dlenrow (98) * aricg (13) * TapioT (8) * rpaik (5) * frankbrockners (4) * uli__ (3) * Pranav (2) * ChrisPriceAB (2) * collabot (2) * Thinh_ (1) * pals (1) * bin_ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4