14:57:56 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting OPNFV TSC 14:57:56 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Nov 18 14:57:56 2014 UTC. The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:57:56 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:58:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call 14:58:19 <palani> #info palani 14:58:21 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price 15:00:02 <ChrisPriceAB> TSC representatives you can # info in. 15:03:06 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan 15:03:33 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners 15:03:44 <aricg> #info Aric Gardner 15:03:51 <Pranav> #info Pranav Mehta 15:04:22 <uli_> #info Ulrich Kleber 15:06:23 <dneary> Hi all 15:06:45 <dneary> I would be happy to keep minutes if someone can #chair me 15:07:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dneary 15:07:15 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary 15:07:22 <dneary> Thanks ChrisPriceAB 15:07:28 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing 15:07:45 <dneary> #info No issues with minutes - unanimously approved 15:08:04 <dneary> #info Project status - testing group 15:08:25 <dneary> #info CI project review, kickstart work 15:08:51 <dneary> #undo 15:08:51 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2be4e10> 15:08:52 <margaret> #info margaret joined 15:09:35 <TapioT> #Info Tapio Tallgren 15:10:34 <dneary> #info Discussion on project review (no projects officially up for review, but we want to know how to get started) 15:10:42 <palani> #info distribution selection https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution 15:10:47 <dneary> #info Liaising with SDOs, co-hosting events 15:11:02 <dneary> #info Maintaining a clean wiki 15:11:09 <dneary> #info Action item review 15:11:22 <dneary> palani, Thanks - missed that one 15:11:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Adding item to review the distro WiKi page and discuss. 15:12:31 <Ashiq> #info Ashiq 15:13:11 <cdub> #info Chris Wright 15:13:28 <cdub> can you #link? 15:14:52 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution 15:18:05 <dneary> #topic Discussion of base distribution as starting point for OPNFV 15:19:16 <dneary> #info palani sees PackStack and CentOS as the favoured platform now, and proposes that we get started with that 15:21:02 <dneary> #info Feedback that the table in https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution needs more fields filled out 15:22:55 <julienjut> #me Julien 15:25:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there is some confusion as to the relevance of some informational elements on the selection of the platform. Clarification and discussion was held around each topic. 15:28:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair wenjing 15:28:54 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: wenjing 15:28:54 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary wenjing 15:30:19 <Wenjing> #Wenjing 15:30:27 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair Wenjing 15:30:27 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB Wenjing dneary wenjing 15:31:09 <Wenjing> ChrisP showed anti-trust policy to kick off the meeting 15:31:16 <Wenjing> agenda bashing followed 15:31:34 <Wenjing> First topic: wiki based discussion on intitial distribution selection 15:32:03 <Wenjing> wiki page is in https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution 15:32:54 <Wenjing> still a lot of gap in the table to draw conclusion at this current state, need more active community contribution 15:34:46 <Wenjing> some of the rows appear unclear/if relevant 15:35:43 <Wenjing> #note: (before agenda bashing) - last week's minutes adopted by lack of objection 15:36:09 <dneary> #info Decision to move on with no conclusion - installer and base platform decision deferred 15:36:27 <dneary> #topic Getting Started project proposal and discussion 15:36:31 <Wenjing> some further followed on how to improve this process 15:36:39 <frankbrockners> #info https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started 15:36:41 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic get started 15:36:46 <dneary> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started 15:37:00 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Already changed the topic :-) 15:41:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #info get started is an activity to establish a 3 node OPNFV baseline deployment 15:42:29 <ChrisPriceAB> #info many known issues are not intended to be solved in this activity, they will be postponed until after the foundation work has been done 15:43:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the deployment would be based around 2 control nodes and one compute node 15:43:46 <julienjut> #question at least 2 compute nodes is required, or the mtu problem of ovs won't be found 15:44:01 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Aric asked if the 2 control nodes are for redundancy or another purpose, the 2 control nodes are intended to be for redundancy 15:47:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #info for community discussion please address the mailing list using [getstarted] in the subject line. 15:49:27 <cdub> how does "get stuff done" and "wait two weeks" go together? 15:50:03 <dneary> #info TSC voted to create the sandbox using Linux Foundation facilities - sounds like Frank's proposal could proceed without waiting for TSC approval 15:50:37 <TapioT> Can we call it something except "Getting Started"? That sounds like the documentation I as a developer would look for. 15:50:56 <cdub> TapioT: that's a good point 15:53:35 <bryan_att> #info the project is something we have to do anyway, so will support it 15:58:33 <dneary> TapioT, frankbrockners: How about "bootstrap"? 15:58:55 * ChrisPriceAB I like that 15:59:54 <TapioT> dneare_ 16:00:10 <TapioT> dneary: +1 16:00:49 <bryan_att> +1 16:02:27 <dneary> Is this call scheduled for 2 hours? I thought it was 1h 16:03:06 <cdub> 2hrs 16:03:11 <cdub> settle in buddy 16:03:21 * ChrisPriceAB ;) 16:06:01 <cdub> definitely barracuda then 16:06:34 * ChrisPriceAB a Heart fan then! 16:06:49 <cdub> heh 16:11:23 <Wenjing> have to drop off now 16:14:34 <dneary> #info Bootstrap/get started to get started. 16:15:24 <dneary> #topic Performance and testing 16:17:19 <dneary> #info morgan_orange gives background on testing & performance effort - dependent on a CI project (Octopus, bootstrap) producing a testable platform. 16:17:32 <dneary> #info Project proposal will be ready to be submitted next week 16:18:47 <dneary> #info Project also depends on VNFs to be deployed for test purposes 16:21:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Project proposals pending review. 16:28:11 <cdub> bah, just lost cell service 16:28:12 <julienjut> one question, I heard on last Tuesday meeting that someone is working on Carrier Grade KPI? Can you contact me? 16:30:10 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Not sure how to minute the last few minutes 16:31:19 <rpaik> #info For requirements projects, it may help to have outcomes clearly listed 16:32:07 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price asked the TSC how best to approach project creation approval 16:34:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris W describes that some practical experience (like the get started / bootstrap initiative ) would provide valuable intput to the TSC around the scope of each project proposal 16:34:41 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Ashiq mentioned for requirement and documentation projects this would not be required. 16:35:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Frank B explains that being concise of the deliverables of the project would help establish the foundation for project approval. 16:36:32 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB proposes that for documentation and requirements project, we should start reviewing and approving them next week. 16:36:56 <RK-Sandvine> Hi - is there any deadline for proposals ? 16:37:17 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB proposes that for infrastructure, integration, testing projects, we need more clarity on what will be produced by the projects; practical experience bootstrapping the CI will be useful 16:40:45 <dneary> #info uli_ asks how project members can avail of the sandbox environment 16:42:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started 16:42:06 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started 16:42:15 <dneary> #info aricg is the Linux Foundation contact for the sandbox - no process exists yet 16:44:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #info We should use the get started / bootstrap wiki as a means to engage in the collaborative (sandbox) based activities. 16:45:33 <dneary> #question Is there a deadline for making proposals? 16:45:56 <dneary> #info Proposals can be submitted any time, but a 2 week review period is required before the TSC can approve it 16:53:16 <bryan_att> #info Can I have 30 seconds on an update on the Copper (Deployment Policy) project? 16:53:27 <dneary> #topic Improving the wiki 16:55:55 <dneary> #info Feedback that information is hard to find on the wiki (project proposals, meeting times, Google indexing) 16:56:22 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB suggests we keep it tidy - naming conventions, page organization 16:58:35 <dneary> https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/tsc <- This says the meeting is 1h - should be updated (or we shorten the meeting ;-) 16:59:10 * ChrisPriceAB for now update the WiKi, we can discuss reducing it 17:01:58 <dneary> #info Proposal that Marie-Odile Pauli speaks with ETSI about co-hosting an OPNFV hack-fest the week of ETSI NFV ISG #9 in Prague 17:02:44 <dneary> #info bryan_att says that OPNFV work in AT&T is not overlapping with ETSI, he prefers focus on developer events, not SDO events 17:03:13 <dneary> Is this a good time for me to mention the Networking DevRoom in FOSDEM (very much a developer event)? 17:03:45 <dneary> #info conclusion is that critical mass exists for Prague hackfest, but opportunities for other events exist 17:04:15 <dneary> #info Simultaneous Release call tomorrow 17:04:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting