14:57:56 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting OPNFV TSC
14:57:56 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Nov 18 14:57:56 2014 UTC.  The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:58:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call
14:58:19 <palani> #info palani
14:58:21 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price
15:00:02 <ChrisPriceAB> TSC representatives you can # info in.
15:03:06 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan
15:03:33 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners
15:03:44 <aricg> #info Aric Gardner
15:03:51 <Pranav> #info Pranav Mehta
15:04:22 <uli_> #info Ulrich Kleber
15:06:23 <dneary> Hi all
15:06:45 <dneary> I would be happy to keep minutes if someone can #chair me
15:07:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dneary
15:07:15 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary
15:07:22 <dneary> Thanks ChrisPriceAB
15:07:28 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing
15:07:45 <dneary> #info No issues with minutes - unanimously approved
15:08:04 <dneary> #info Project status - testing group
15:08:25 <dneary> #info CI project review, kickstart work
15:08:51 <dneary> #undo
15:08:51 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2be4e10>
15:08:52 <margaret> #info margaret joined
15:09:35 <TapioT> #Info Tapio Tallgren
15:10:34 <dneary> #info Discussion on project review (no projects officially up for review, but we want to know how to get started)
15:10:42 <palani> #info distribution selection https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution
15:10:47 <dneary> #info Liaising with SDOs, co-hosting events
15:11:02 <dneary> #info Maintaining a clean wiki
15:11:09 <dneary> #info Action item review
15:11:22 <dneary> palani, Thanks - missed that one
15:11:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Adding item to review the distro WiKi page and discuss.
15:12:31 <Ashiq> #info Ashiq
15:13:11 <cdub> #info Chris Wright
15:13:28 <cdub> can you #link?
15:14:52 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution
15:18:05 <dneary> #topic Discussion of base distribution as starting point for OPNFV
15:19:16 <dneary> #info palani sees PackStack and CentOS as the favoured platform now, and proposes that we get started with that
15:21:02 <dneary> #info Feedback that the table in https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution needs more fields filled out
15:22:55 <julienjut> #me Julien
15:25:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there is some confusion as to the relevance of some informational elements on the selection of the platform.  Clarification and discussion was held around each topic.
15:28:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair wenjing
15:28:54 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: wenjing
15:28:54 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary wenjing
15:30:19 <Wenjing> #Wenjing
15:30:27 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair Wenjing
15:30:27 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB Wenjing dneary wenjing
15:31:09 <Wenjing> ChrisP showed anti-trust policy to kick off the meeting
15:31:16 <Wenjing> agenda bashing followed
15:31:34 <Wenjing> First topic: wiki based discussion on intitial distribution selection
15:32:03 <Wenjing> wiki page is in https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/opnfv_distribution
15:32:54 <Wenjing> still a lot of gap in the table to draw conclusion at this current state, need more active community contribution
15:34:46 <Wenjing> some of the rows appear unclear/if relevant
15:35:43 <Wenjing> #note: (before agenda bashing) - last week's minutes adopted by lack of objection
15:36:09 <dneary> #info Decision to move on with no conclusion - installer and base platform decision deferred
15:36:27 <dneary> #topic Getting Started project proposal and discussion
15:36:31 <Wenjing> some further followed on how to improve this process
15:36:39 <frankbrockners> #info https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started
15:36:41 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic get started
15:36:46 <dneary> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started
15:37:00 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Already changed the topic :-)
15:41:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #info get started is an activity to establish a 3 node OPNFV baseline deployment
15:42:29 <ChrisPriceAB> #info many known issues are not intended to be solved in this activity, they will be postponed until after the foundation work has been done
15:43:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the deployment would be based around 2 control nodes and one compute node
15:43:46 <julienjut> #question at least 2 compute nodes is required, or the mtu problem of ovs won't be found
15:44:01 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Aric asked if the 2 control nodes are for redundancy or another purpose, the 2 control nodes are intended to be for redundancy
15:47:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #info for community discussion please address the mailing list using [getstarted] in the subject line.
15:49:27 <cdub> how does "get stuff done" and "wait two weeks" go together?
15:50:03 <dneary> #info TSC voted to create the sandbox using Linux Foundation facilities - sounds like Frank's proposal could proceed without waiting for TSC approval
15:50:37 <TapioT> Can we call it something except "Getting Started"? That sounds like the documentation I as a developer would look for.
15:50:56 <cdub> TapioT: that's a good point
15:53:35 <bryan_att> #info the project is something we have to do anyway, so will support it
15:58:33 <dneary> TapioT, frankbrockners: How about "bootstrap"?
15:58:55 * ChrisPriceAB I like that
15:59:54 <TapioT> dneare_
16:00:10 <TapioT> dneary: +1
16:00:49 <bryan_att> +1
16:02:27 <dneary> Is this call scheduled for 2 hours? I thought it was 1h
16:03:06 <cdub> 2hrs
16:03:11 <cdub> settle in buddy
16:03:21 * ChrisPriceAB ;)
16:06:01 <cdub> definitely barracuda then
16:06:34 * ChrisPriceAB a Heart fan then!
16:06:49 <cdub> heh
16:11:23 <Wenjing> have to drop off now
16:14:34 <dneary> #info Bootstrap/get started to get started.
16:15:24 <dneary> #topic Performance and testing
16:17:19 <dneary> #info morgan_orange gives background on testing & performance effort - dependent on a CI project (Octopus, bootstrap) producing a testable platform.
16:17:32 <dneary> #info Project proposal will be ready to be submitted next week
16:18:47 <dneary> #info Project also depends on VNFs to be deployed for test purposes
16:21:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Project proposals pending review.
16:28:11 <cdub> bah, just lost cell service
16:28:12 <julienjut> one question, I heard on last Tuesday meeting that someone is working on Carrier Grade KPI? Can you contact me?
16:30:10 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Not sure how to minute the last few minutes
16:31:19 <rpaik> #info For requirements projects, it may help to have outcomes clearly listed
16:32:07 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price asked the TSC how best to approach project creation approval
16:34:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris W describes that some practical experience (like the get started / bootstrap initiative ) would provide valuable intput to the TSC around the scope of each project proposal
16:34:41 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Ashiq mentioned for requirement and documentation projects this would not be required.
16:35:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Frank B explains that being concise of the deliverables of the project would help establish the foundation for project approval.
16:36:32 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB proposes that for documentation and requirements project, we should start reviewing and approving them next week.
16:36:56 <RK-Sandvine> Hi - is there any deadline for proposals ?
16:37:17 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB proposes that for infrastructure, integration, testing projects, we need more clarity on what will be produced by the projects; practical experience bootstrapping the CI will be useful
16:40:45 <dneary> #info uli_ asks how project members can avail of the sandbox environment
16:42:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started
16:42:06 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/get_started
16:42:15 <dneary> #info aricg is the Linux Foundation contact for the sandbox - no process exists yet
16:44:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #info We should use the get started / bootstrap wiki as a means to engage in the collaborative (sandbox) based activities.
16:45:33 <dneary> #question Is there a deadline for making proposals?
16:45:56 <dneary> #info Proposals can be submitted any time, but a 2 week review period is required before the TSC can approve it
16:53:16 <bryan_att> #info Can I have 30 seconds on an update on the Copper (Deployment Policy) project?
16:53:27 <dneary> #topic Improving the wiki
16:55:55 <dneary> #info Feedback that information is hard to find on the wiki (project proposals, meeting times, Google indexing)
16:56:22 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB suggests we keep it tidy - naming conventions, page organization
16:58:35 <dneary> https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/tsc <- This says the meeting is 1h - should be updated (or we shorten the meeting ;-)
16:59:10 * ChrisPriceAB for now update the WiKi, we can discuss reducing it
17:01:58 <dneary> #info Proposal that Marie-Odile Pauli speaks with ETSI about co-hosting an OPNFV hack-fest the week of ETSI NFV ISG #9 in Prague
17:02:44 <dneary> #info bryan_att says that OPNFV work in AT&T is not overlapping with ETSI, he prefers focus on developer events, not SDO events
17:03:13 <dneary> Is this a good time for me to mention the Networking DevRoom in FOSDEM (very much a developer event)?
17:03:45 <dneary> #info conclusion is that critical mass exists for Prague hackfest, but opportunities for other events exist
17:04:15 <dneary> #info Simultaneous Release call tomorrow
17:04:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting