15:19:29 <dneary> #startmeeting Synchronised Release discussion
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15:19:40 <cdub> if that's helpful
15:19:40 <dneary> cdub, Yes, I was working out syntax :-)
15:19:48 <dneary> Deleting etherpad
15:20:35 <dneary> #topic General discussion of SR
15:21:13 <cdub> #info current plan is march 2015 is helium/juno based and just upstream integration (no new features)
15:21:48 <cdub> #info postponing for kilo isn't currently justified (no clear idea waht we'd get from waiting for kilo)
15:21:54 <dneary> #info dlenrow asks whether there is any opposition to the initial release plan for March, which is releasing integrated Juno + Helium and dependencies for upstream projects
15:23:10 <dneary> #info ChrisPriceAB confirmed that the board has been working on Juno + Helium as a base, and he has not heard anyone argue against that
15:24:18 <dneary> #info dneary asked whether we have a good idea of what we would gain from moving to Kilo, and also remarked that we do not yet have a basis to build on and get out in front of the upstream projects
15:25:22 <dneary> #info Palani went over the VNFs which are currently being considered to test the platform in response to a question about which workloads people plan to run on the initial release
15:28:03 <dneary> #info There was some further discussion on the realism of aiming for anything more than the current plan of integrating past upstream releases, and ChrisPriceAB proposed that we move on to discussion of the process of release rather than focussing on the scope of the project for now.
15:28:17 <dneary> #topic Simultaneous Release process
15:29:37 <dneary> #info dlenrow showed the current planning for the first release, with milestones for consideration of projects being included and deliverables
15:30:54 <cdub> #info m2 is 12/30, unclear we'll have any projects by then
15:31:27 <dneary> #info cdub pointed out that 2014-12-30 is in one month, including a week of US holidays and a short week, and it seems unrealistic to expect any projects to be ready to integrate the release in that process
15:32:01 <dneary> cdub, Should I undo the wordy version?
15:32:01 <cdub> #info m4 is 2/15/15 and that's an anchor for delivering march release 3/15/15
15:32:07 <cdub> nah, it's fine
15:34:43 <dneary> #info Fundamental question is, what do we deliver? Git tags, packages, VM images, kickstart files, ...?
15:39:19 <dneary> #info general agreement that "get started/bootstrap" is the most fundamental project right now to get moving, suggestion to focus on it to enable us to start identifying gaps, and filling them.
15:48:59 <dneary> I didn't hear that very well
15:53:27 <dneary> #info It was suggested (sorry, didn't recognise the voice) that Get Started could define required pieces which would easily enable others to replicate the stack with alternative components (eg. OS, config mgmt tool, etc)
15:54:15 <dneary> #info Uli suggested that maintaining focus for Getting Started was required to get something done. These approaches are compatible.
15:59:16 <dneary> #info Next Monday there are two relevant meetings: Octopus (15h-16h UTC) and Get Started (16h-17h UTC)
16:05:31 <dneary> #info Luc Lemieux asked where he can find details about the Monday meetings. Email was sent to the opnfv-tech-discuss list, dlenrow suggested we should get better about adding meetings to the wiki.
16:05:36 <dneary> #endmeeting