14:58:16 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting OPNFV TSC 14:58:16 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Feb 10 14:58:16 2015 UTC. The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:58:16 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:58:16 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_tsc' 14:58:23 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call 14:58:29 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price 14:59:43 <julien_ZTE> #info Julien 14:59:54 <ulik> #info Uli Kleber 15:00:34 <dku_> #info Dirk Kutscher 15:00:37 <Wenjing> #info Wenjing Chu 15:01:24 <cdub> #info Chris Wright 15:01:43 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair ulik 15:01:43 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB ulik 15:01:48 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners 15:01:58 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rpaik 15:01:58 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB rpaik ulik 15:02:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dneary 15:02:51 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: dneary 15:02:51 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary rpaik ulik 15:02:51 <Pranav> #info Pranav Mehta 15:03:46 <GeraldK> #info Gerald Kunzmann (DOCOMO) 15:03:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Approval of previous minutes 15:03:54 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow 15:03:59 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree previous minutes approved 15:04:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing 15:04:52 <tapio_> #info Tapio Tallgren 15:05:29 <dneary> #info Dave Neary 15:05:52 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dneary 15:05:52 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary rpaik ulik 15:06:23 <dneary> Thanks ChrisPriceAB - turns out I was talking into the ether b/c of a long IRC disconnect timeout 15:06:43 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Committer Promotions 15:07:12 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan 15:07:29 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/developer/committer_promotions 15:10:02 <dneary> #info Requirements: History of activity, demonstrated knowledge and judgement to project lead, willingness to lead in the project 15:10:39 <dneary> #info Project lead nominates to the TSC, committer promotion must be approved by the TSC 15:11:11 <dneary> #info No goal to get in the way, but TSC promotion review is important to introduce new committers to community 15:12:48 <rprakash___> link for meeting #?https://global.gotomeeting.com/ 15:16:51 <dneary> #info Question raised as to whether the TSC is the right place to approve committers, discussion whether decision on committer promotions should be handled by project leads directly 15:17:22 <ulik> @prakash: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/798898261 15:17:22 <collabot> ulik: Error: "prakash:" is not a valid command. 15:17:23 <dneary> #info TSC should be able to stop promotions in the situation where something happens not in accordance with the charter 15:17:52 <dneary> #info Still important to inform TSC of new promotions, to ensure that people are introduced to the community 15:18:50 <bryan_att> #info any resolutions of the TSC should be first input in the IRC as "proposed resolution" - this makes it easier for meeting attendees to know exactly what is being proposed as a resolution, prior to agreement 15:19:07 <dneary> #info TSC role should be limited to mitigating issues, or intervening when there is a problematic contributor 15:19:16 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree The TSC agrees that committer promotions should be handled by the project committers, the TSC should only be involved when there are highlighted issues to be addressed in the promotion. 15:19:24 <Parviz> #info Parviz Yegani 15:19:31 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Looks god 15:19:33 <dneary> good 15:19:36 <ulik> good 15:20:14 <dneary> Once more, reference for meetbot commands: https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/meetbot 15:21:18 <dneary> ulik, Did you see a need for updating the charter on this point? I'm unfamiliar with it 15:21:39 <ChrisPriceAB> #action Dave Lenrow to update the wiki to reflect the above statement. https://wiki.opnfv.org/developer/committer_promotions 15:21:44 <ulik> dneary, I think it is very flexible 15:22:29 <dneary> So are we naming Uli the project lead? 15:22:41 * dneary is confused 15:22:48 <ulik> dneary, the project has to do that. 15:23:24 <dneary> Isn't a project lead named during the creation review? 15:24:16 <ulik> yes, but we didn't do it in the past. 15:24:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV Release 1 15:24:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #info BGS project update - Frank 15:24:42 <cdub> dlenrow: this is openstack process: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Approved/CoreDevProcess 15:25:03 <dlenrow> cdub: Thx 15:25:04 <cdub> dlenrow: i think the main differenec we have in our process is...no defined process for a project to follow 15:25:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the main topic for BGS is to automate the foundation installation. A number of experiments are ongoing in this area. 15:25:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #info The focus right now is to get the OpenStack OpenDaylight integration done, some issues have been found with this activity. 15:25:48 <cdub> dlenrow: ours is simply: https://www.opnfv.org/developers/technical-project-governance/tsc-charter 15:26:26 <cdub> dlenrow: which has "A standard meritocracy model with new Committers will be approved and implemented by the TSC which will include provision for fully open code submission, review, acceptance, build, test, delivery, and support model." 15:26:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the project is driving to create a draft schedule for release 1 15:26:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #info octopus project updates 15:27:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info The project is focused on bottom up work, looking at the infrastructure and working with the LinuxFoundation on the tools 15:27:40 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Release Intent discussion 15:31:34 <bryan_att> #info in addition to "in an HA configuration" we need to ensure that release 1 includes an easily deployable OPNFV deployment in non-HA configurations, e.g. on minimal hardware requirements for development purposes 15:35:24 <rprakash___> #info availability of release, proper documentation , functionality in Release 1, Delivery by early teams/projects, Infrastrure to continuously build, develop and install ... more clarity required = by Frank 15:38:31 <rprakash___> #info VNF application should work on VIM say specific ones like say vLB and say another 15:39:33 <rprakash___> #info what HA means 15:40:20 <rprakash___> #info more details installing HA for what Control Plane or Data Plane or both 15:41:48 <rprakash___> #info Pharos and Function Test Proje ct has done lot of the above and so setting expections for these project is key to defining content of Relase 1 - Chris 15:42:07 <julien_ZTE> #@rprakash___ info I think that means we will install the control nodes of Openstack in HA mode. 15:43:19 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rprakash__ 15:43:19 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: rprakash__ 15:43:19 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary rpaik rprakash__ ulik 15:43:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rprakash___ 15:43:31 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dneary rpaik rprakash__ rprakash___ ulik 15:43:42 <rprakash___> #action Access to environment on Jenkins on OPNFV to do some CI work is key within the domain pointing to their own setup or infrastructure if necesssary 15:48:33 <ulik> #info Bryan proposes that minimal configuration be part of release 1 (maybe optional) 15:54:01 <bryan_att> #info I set a development environment as a key goal, perhaps not gating, but the fact that something is not gating should not decrease it's importance. I believe that functional gap closure is the key thing that OPNFV will drive - performance gap closure is essential also but development of solutions for both will often be developed in non-HA laboratory 15:54:01 <bryan_att> environments or on developer laptops. The "platform" should support those development environments. 15:55:09 <cdub> #link http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/opnfv-tsc/2015-February/000480.html list of release details 15:56:30 <rprakash___> #acition "have content defined for release 1 a minimal set infra harware function " and then set the date at next meeting 15:58:01 <julien_ZTE> #agree @bryan_att, maybe we will update the wiki about the evironment refered to bgs 15:58:16 <rprakash___> #info define "project" expections for release 1 , and deliverables in reality" and this includes Pharos , Functional test etc. 16:01:42 <ulik> #info besides BGS and Octopus, also Pharos and functest should be in the group 16:02:50 <cdub> hmm, phone crashed 16:04:45 <rprakash___> #info Progress for Project based on the Chris's 6 points with cpaibility and time lines 16:05:27 <dneary> Signing off, conflicting call 16:05:36 <rprakash___> #info Parveezs point endorsed by Frank as above 16:06:23 <rprakash___> #info getting right matrix for Project & CI tec. 16:06:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Quick update on Meet-up (Santa Rosa) & Hackfest (Prague) 16:07:23 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Ray gives an update on questions and communication traffic for coming the meet-up and hackfest 16:07:56 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/MeetUpFeb19 16:08:06 <ChrisPriceAB> https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/HackfestFeb23 16:13:00 <rprakash___> #info topic of interest between hackfest and OPNFV to be probed including secuirity and other allignments 16:13:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/HackfestFeb23 16:15:10 <rprakash___> #info should we use Tech review committe to evaluate the proposlas / projects fromally ? 16:16:34 <rprakash___> #info document the process between Tech review committee to TSC 16:17:33 <Parviz> @Parakash: Parviz not Parveez 16:17:33 <collabot> Parviz: Error: "Parakash:" is not a valid command. 16:17:46 <rprakash___> #in fo Thursday tech review helps community gather dicuss in details , cross project collab and get deeper in to project for clarification etc. 16:19:14 <rprakash___> #info Good socilizing mechnism and editing, proof reading , plus technical details and clarifications , thus very usefull as many particpants chime 16:20:45 <rprakash___> #info not all TSC members do attent Thursday Tech Review Meeting helps whet the proposal for the team that brings helps get recommendation from Tech review committee 16:23:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Project aprrovals 16:23:42 <rprakash___> #action Recommend that a new project goes through Thursday Tech Review Meeting to get clarity for TSC to approve 16:24:02 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Creation review of the Re-visit Data Plane Acceleration prtoject 16:24:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #undo 16:24:06 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x1cf6ad0> 16:24:15 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Creation review of the Re-visit Data Plane Acceleration project 16:24:50 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/data_plane_acceleration 16:25:17 <ChrisPriceAB> #info this is a re-review of the dpacc project. Some clarifications were required after the previous review 16:26:55 <ChrisPriceAB> #info clarifications on the project include: accommodation of both hardware and software aceleration, compatibility to existing API's should be leveraged, a layer approach to the solution should be adopted. 16:27:13 <ChrisPriceAB> #info OpenStack has been added as a relevant upstream project due to management interactions 16:28:32 <dlenrow> Is the implication that all listed are both contributors and committers? 16:29:00 <Parviz> #info Parviz 16:30:03 <rprakash___> #info Data Plane Acceeeleration seeks approval after Group agreeing to include both SWA and HWA in the two options propsed in the requirments 16:31:01 <rprakash___> #info Committers to have specific rights and hence seperating Commiters from Contributors for voting on decisions within the project 16:32:24 <rprakash___> #action Conditional approval subject to specifying the Commiters within some time period 16:33:29 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote On conditional approval of the dpacc project, pending clarification of the committer list for the project? (+1, 0, -1) 16:33:29 <collabot> Begin voting on: On conditional approval of the dpacc project, pending clarification of the committer list for the project? Valid vote options are , +1, 0, -1, . 16:33:29 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 16:33:33 <Pranav> #vote +1 16:33:34 <Guest71339> can that clarification be sent to the TSC list by some date please? 16:33:34 <julien_ZTE> #vote +1 16:33:35 <dku_> #vote +1 16:33:36 <frankbrockners> #vote +1 16:33:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1 16:33:37 <GeraldK> #vote +1 16:33:38 <tapio_> #vote +1 16:33:41 <cdub> #vote +1 16:33:43 <Guest71339> #vote +1 16:33:43 <Parviz> #vote +1 16:33:45 <dlenrow> #vote +1 16:33:48 <rprakash___> #vote +1 16:33:50 <bryan_att> #vote +1 16:33:57 <hui> +1 16:34:04 <Guest71339> BTW Guest71339 is Tom Nadeau 16:34:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1 (on behalf of Hui) 16:34:18 <collabot> ChrisPriceAB: +1 (on behalf of Hui) is not a valid option. Valid options are , +1, 0, -1, . 16:34:20 <dlenrow> If Guest71339 is TSC, you need a better nik. 16:34:36 <Guest71339> yes 16:34:56 <hui> #vote +1 16:34:56 <Guest71339> @dlenrow - yes I know. *) 16:34:56 <collabot> Guest71339: Error: "dlenrow" is not a valid command. 16:35:03 <dlenrow> Thx tom 16:35:04 <Guest71339> dlenrow - yes I know. *) 16:35:07 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote 16:35:07 <collabot> Voted on "On conditional approval of the dpacc project, pending clarification of the committer list for the project?" Results are 16:35:07 <collabot> +1 (14): Pranav, frankbrockners, dku_, dlenrow, GeraldK, tapio_, Guest71339, ChrisPriceAB, hui, cdub, rprakash___, bryan_att, julien_ZTE, Parviz 16:35:12 <Wenjing> #vote +1 16:36:06 <GeraldK> GeraldK is today proxy for AshiqKhan 16:36:16 * ChrisPriceAB congratulations dpacc 16:36:34 <Guest71339> nic Tom 16:36:34 <cdub> /nick blahblah 16:37:11 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Creation review of the OpenStack Based VNF Forwarding Graph 16:37:44 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/openstack_based_vnf_forwarding_graph 16:38:11 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Cathy presents the project proposal as described on the linked WiKi page. 16:52:09 <rpaik> #info discussion on how the scope diagram in the project proposal maps to the OPNFV arch. diagram 16:58:20 <Yuriy> fully agree with rpaik, diagram should show where is all this box located in openstack arch. and opnfv arch. 17:03:09 <rpaik> #info suggestion to continue this discussion on a Thursday call (Technical Discussion mtg) 17:03:44 <julien_ZTE> #info I hope there is a some detail difference and releationship between forwarding graph with service chain 17:03:52 <rprakash___> #action Can we get Thursday meeting to re-review the projrct to clarify on scope & delivery path , plus plugins of Venodrs how they tie in 17:04:42 <rprakash___> #action ask questions through email for the project 17:05:47 <ChrisPriceAB> #info further questions related to the SFC project should be addressed on the coming technical meeting, to be reviewed for creation again next week. 17:05:52 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting