13:58:43 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting OPNFV TSC 13:58:43 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 13:58:43 2015 UTC. The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:58:43 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:58:43 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_tsc' 13:58:50 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rpaik 13:58:50 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: rpaik 13:58:50 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB rpaik 14:00:36 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call 14:00:41 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price 14:00:58 <rprakash> #info Prakash 14:01:05 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners 14:01:53 <ulik> #info Uli Kleber 14:02:18 <cdub> #info chris wright 14:03:16 <rajeev> #info Rajeev Koodli 14:03:34 <dlenrow> #info dlenrow 14:03:38 <julien_ZTE> #info Julien 14:03:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic approval of previous minutes 14:03:54 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree previous minutes approved 14:04:14 <tallgren> #info Tapio Tallgren (Nokia) 14:05:12 <arturt> #info Artur Tyloch 14:06:03 <iben> #info Iben Rodriguez (Spirent) 14:06:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Agenda Bashing 14:06:53 <fuqiao> #info fuqiao 14:07:01 <Wenjing> #info Wenjing 14:07:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info topic to discuss the project proposal and reviews 14:08:22 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan 14:09:47 <dlenrow> Is there anybody else on who is prepared and expecting to present for a project creation review today? 14:09:59 <dlenrow> Yardstick ready to present? 14:10:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Linux Foundation data center hardware update 14:10:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Konstantine states the wiring is done in the labs. Power up should be completed today 14:11:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there have been delays with some power connectors and unfamilliarity of the hardware and needed components. 14:11:49 <rpaik> #info HW ready for dry run by the end of the week 14:12:00 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the hardware will be accessible for Jenkins set-up early next week. 14:12:51 <ChrisPriceAB> #info fatih asks about availability of build resources. Nightly jobs and commit jobs are currently under-resourced. 14:14:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners outlines the availability of one set of servers for build and merge activities. 14:14:36 <tomnadeau> ChrisPriceAB - is there an agenda for this meeting that you could paste in here? 14:14:53 <frankbrockners> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/tsc 14:14:53 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/TSC 14:15:11 <ChrisPriceAB> #info meeting agenda can be found on the tsc page. 14:19:29 <rpaik> #info if you need access to the LF datacenter HW, please contact ChrisPriceAB, trevor_intel, frankbrockners 14:24:27 <Parviz> #info Parviz Yegani 14:25:16 <Wenjing> What is the Jenkins issue to some of the labs? 14:25:41 <bryan_att> wenjing: connectivity; the slave is throwing a java error 14:26:10 <bryan_att> what I have heard at least 14:27:30 <rpaik> #info Ericsson lab could be used as a backup for the LF lab for build & deploy activities. 14:28:41 <rpaik> #info frankbrockners to work with the Ericsson team to try to run RC1 activities in the Ericsson lab 14:29:10 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Release diagram update 14:30:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #info HKirksey_ outlines the diagram selection after the previous discussion meeting. The concepts captured by frankbrockners proposal have been worked on for the Arno graphic. 14:36:22 <rpaik> #info suggestion to replace the term “roadmap” 14:37:14 <rpaik> #info suggestion to add OVR under OpenContrail 14:39:03 <rpaik> #info replace “HW acceleration” with “dataplane accleration” 14:39:43 <dlenrow> #info remove specific references to future platforms and make it more general e.g. "Other Hypervisors in future" 14:42:07 <aricg> preliminary stats for contributions in each repo: https://build.opnfv.org/releases/ 14:42:31 <dlenrow> OpenContrail, Xen, Ceph, ONOS, Cloudstack, Docker, OpenPower do not have specific future plans AFAIK 14:42:49 <rpaik> #info only include components that are in the project pipeline 14:45:19 <tomnadeau> it does no one any favors including upstream components that are not integrated, or planned as part of any accepted project. It sets the wrong expectations in the marketplace that these things will be done. 14:48:19 <rpaik> #info openstack should extend all the way to network virt. control 14:48:29 <dlenrow> cdub: +1 14:49:25 <cdub> dlenrow: just watching the clock and getting that anxious feeling ;) 14:50:26 <dlenrow> #action heather to post slides on OPNFV wiki 14:50:37 <rpaik> #info put the diagram on the Arno page and collect feedback via email on Friday 14:52:02 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV board meeting update to the TSC 14:52:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair dlenrow 14:52:08 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB dlenrow rpaik 14:52:25 <trevor_intel> Who is boss_mc (voted in functest meeting)? 14:52:55 <B_Smith_> is there a link for Arno page 14:54:45 <julien_ZTE> #info link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/arno 14:56:44 <dneary> On the Community page, it would be really good to have someone who is involved in ETSI NFV to document interlock opportunities and link to relevant lists & web pages for ETSI NFV, and to have some community information for OVS, DPDK, libvirt and other projects we will care about 14:58:13 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV meeting tools and logistics 14:58:24 <cdub> trevor_intel: /whois boss_mc shows Andy Caldwell 14:58:26 <frankbrockners> #link http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2015/opnfv-meeting.2015-04-02-18.00.html 14:58:48 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners had an IRC meeting to discuss the topic which was not attended greatly. Minutes in the above link. 14:59:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #info key takeaways, we have many meetings and many that require audio. This makes things difficult to attend, audio constrains the availability of tools. 15:00:42 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the number of meetings will increase with new projects making the use of audio meetings non-sustainable. 15:01:55 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the team reccomends some projects moving to IRC only meetings to see if it works well for them, with an eye on making this the default options for OPNFV meetings. 15:02:53 <rpaik> #info will need to investigate IRC is a viable option globally (may need to setup something like webchat.opnfv.org) 15:03:08 <dneary> Can I suggest a moratorium for new meetings for non-Arno related projects for the rest of April? 15:03:20 <ChrisPriceAB> #info bryan_att indicates this will not reduce the # of meetings. 15:03:43 <dneary> I mean: no regular meetings not related to Arno 15:04:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners accepts that but adds that members can follow multiple meetings. 15:04:10 <dneary> With one exception for an OpenStack related meeting due to the proximity of the Design Summit 15:04:22 <cdub> dneary: +1 15:04:28 * ChrisPriceAB there's always an exception! 15:05:00 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, One could argue that OpenStack blue-prints should be discussed in the IRC only OpenStack Telco working group meeting 15:05:09 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, So it wouldn't be a phone meeting anyway 15:06:47 <tomnadeau> can we please stick to the meeting agenda? 8) 15:07:20 <julien_ZTE> #info besides the resouces(GTM) to support the projects, the time slot is also very very narrow for the team to choose. 15:07:36 <tallgren> ?1 15:07:41 <bryan_att> OK, it was a key point that I did not want to leave as an unchallenged summary - I have a different opinion and organizational effectiveness is a key topic 15:07:41 <tallgren> +1 15:08:30 <cdub> and adopt a cultural shift which is projects don't automatically set up a weekly meeting 15:10:03 <rajeev> some projects can be moved to IRC. I guess consensus in each project can decide 15:11:27 <bryan_att> we are not at the stage which we can shift to IRC e.g. in the cases that we are looking at architectural decomposition of goals and use cases - this is an abstract discussion that does not fit to pure IRC. we need diagrams and dialog via speech. Experts with long open source project experience may have learned how to address these type of topics via IRC, or 15:11:28 <bryan_att> maybe they are just *beyond them*... but that's where we are\ 15:11:32 <rpaik> #info ChrisPraiceAB mentions that another issue is the quality of meeting minutes 15:12:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic OPNFV award program review and approval 15:12:45 <bryan_att> how about a prize for meeting minutes takers? 15:13:05 <bryan_att> seriously - if you want to encourage better minutes, give a payback 15:13:07 <cdub> oops, did we lose ray? 15:13:25 <cdub> too bad this wasn't IRC only ;) 15:16:48 * ChrisPriceAB :P cdub 15:16:58 <bryan_att> that sounds good 15:18:28 <dneary> bryan_att, I wonder whether extrinsic motivation will work for minute taking 15:19:35 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, Open nominations, a nomination committee that short-lists, then vote on the MVP similar to ODL 15:19:39 <rajeev> +1 15:19:46 <cdub> i think we should open wide for vote 15:20:00 <bryan_att> you have to encourage people - not everyone gets the intrinsic value - they have to have the experience first and a carrot helps 15:20:30 <rprakash> Atleast release based should be open , quarterly can be TSC selections 15:20:46 <bryan_att> like the intrinsic value of not splitting yourself across too many projects ;-) 15:21:43 <cdub> yes 15:21:53 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Arno Project plans & tracking 15:22:27 <dneary> frankbrockners, I'll be missing the BGS meeting later - P/T meeting. 15:23:31 <ChrisPriceAB> #info ChrisPriceAB outlines the documentation project status. Toolchain in place, conencting it to Jenkins and getting templates in place to establish in the projects. 15:24:07 <ChrisPriceAB> #info frankbrockners outlines the teams are working on deployment scripts for Arno, the builds of foreman and fuel completed at RC0. 15:24:30 <ChrisPriceAB> #info there is a project meeting for BGS after the TSC call due to the holidays 15:25:14 <ChrisPriceAB> #info CI status, no project meeting yesterday due to holidays. 15:25:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #info automatic builds are ready, dependant on hardware at linuxfoundation lab readiness. 15:26:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #info morgan outlines that there is work to be done in many areas. 15:27:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the funcest suites can be run manually in the intel labs. the vPing test cases are working bu some issues in the pods. 15:27:43 <ChrisPriceAB> #info some issues spinning up VM's on the existing POD's. 15:28:17 <ChrisPriceAB> #info documentation is ongoing and under review. 15:30:13 <frankbrockners> dneary: ok - hope that Dan and/or Tim can be there 15:31:52 <rprakash> #info how to connect POD2 intel to LF or move testing to Ercisson lab asks Morgan? 15:34:19 <rprakash> #info Fixed installation of Robo for ODL can use one server and same for Tempest Frank suggests - Jump server includes these tools in labs 15:35:28 <bryan_att> yes, we need the tools etc to be documented as we are trying to recreate this in the AT&T lab like many others, I hope 15:35:38 <bryan_att> link to the documentation? 15:36:10 <rprakash> #info Intel PODs include Rally 15:37:09 <rprakash> #info Morgan to reach out to Ericsson lab with tools needed for Thursday tests 15:39:22 <rprakash> #info send email to get 1 vote from remaining not voted members for func_test team 15:39:46 <dneary> Movie? 15:39:49 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic Vote on VIM Northbound Model and Interface project approval 15:40:24 <ChrisPriceAB> #info the project name has been adjusted "Model Oriented Virtualization Interface" 15:41:27 <rprakash> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/vimnbi 15:41:39 <ChrisPriceAB> #startvote Approve the creation of the Model Oriented Virtualization Interface "movie" project? (-1, 0, +1) 15:41:39 <collabot> Begin voting on: Approve the creation of the Model Oriented Virtualization Interface "movie" project? Valid vote options are , -1, 0, +1, . 15:41:39 <collabot> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 15:41:49 <ulik> #vote +1 15:41:50 <Tapio_T> #vote -1 15:41:54 <dlenrow> #vote +1 15:41:55 <tomnadeau> #vote +1 15:42:00 <Parviz> #vote +1 15:42:04 <julien_ZTE> #vote +1 15:42:06 <LouisF> #vote +1 15:42:12 <fuqiao> #vote +1 15:42:18 <arturt> #vote +1 15:42:32 <ChrisPriceAB> #undo 15:42:32 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x1ee91d0> 15:42:44 <cdub> #vote +1 15:42:46 <ChrisPriceAB> #vote +1 15:43:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #endvote 15:43:08 <collabot> Voted on "Approve the creation of the Model Oriented Virtualization Interface "movie" project?" Results are 15:43:08 <collabot> +1 (10): fuqiao, LouisF, tomnadeau, arturt, ChrisPriceAB, cdub, dlenrow, julien_ZTE, Parviz, ulik 15:43:08 <collabot> -1 (1): Tapio_T 15:44:05 <ChrisPriceAB> #agree the project Model Oriented Virtualization Interface was created by the TSC. 15:45:03 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic project creation process 15:45:05 <dneary> Also, Juju is not a project, it's a subset of BGS, no? 15:45:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/project_proposals wiki outlining the process. 15:47:02 <bin_> #info weekly technical community discussion https://wiki.opnfv.org/wiki/weekly_technical_discussion 15:48:37 <iben> cdub: yes - too bad - but for TSC call we need voice 15:48:46 <dneary> ChrisPriceAB, OK - thanks, wasn't aware that's concrete. 15:54:02 <rprakash> #info BGS needs to figure out way to proceed and seek TSC approval for the same 15:55:56 <rprakash> #info Iet installer option continue including JuJu and consider as part of BGS for now with no reviews - have conversation in BGS 15:56:30 <rprakash> #info if it is part of Rel 2 they must have a project as per Chris 15:57:03 <arturt> we will be ready with juju for real #1 15:57:14 <ChrisPriceAB> #endmeeting