14:00:38 #startmeeting Octopus&Releng weekly meeting 14:00:38 Meeting started Mon Sep 7 14:00:38 2015 UTC. The chair is uli-k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:38 The meeting name has been set to 'octopus_releng_weekly_meeting' 14:00:47 #chair fdegir 14:00:47 Current chairs: fdegir uli-k 14:00:50 #info chenshuai 14:00:56 #info Fatih Degirmenci 14:01:03 #info Uli Kleber 14:01:10 #info meimei 14:01:11 #topic Roll call 14:01:14 #info Malla 14:01:15 #info chigang 14:01:23 #info Ryota Mibu 14:02:07 Welcome everybody! 14:02:19 hi 14:02:21 hello Uli 14:02:26 Let's go! 14:02:33 #topic Agenda bashing 14:03:08 We don't have any specials on the agenda yet. Any additionals? 14:03:19 Milestone C status :D 14:03:31 * ChrisPriceAB runs and hides 14:04:01 #info ChrisPriceAB proposes to add Milestone C status. 14:04:11 Ok. 14:04:33 Maybe we should also look at SR1 14:04:53 #info Uli adds Arno SR1 to agenda. 14:05:18 OK. Action Items..... 14:05:24 #topic Action Items 14:05:49 #info First AI: uli-k trozet ChrisPriceAB: clarify the need of doing Brahmaputra release on LF Lab 14:06:17 #info Discussions are still ongoing. So we have to keep it open 14:06:26 #info pending pharos plan, will be resolved around milestone C timeframe 14:06:31 I think this also depends on pharos 14:06:42 :D 14:06:42 * fdegir duplicated what ChrisPriceAB said already 14:07:07 #action uli-k trozet ChrisPriceAB: clarify the need of doing Brahmaputra release on LF Lab 14:07:33 #info Next AI:meimei fdegir: Follow-up Octopus Requirements with Pharos 14:07:43 * ChrisPriceAB isn't coming back here if he keeps getting AP's 14:07:47 #info The requirements have been passed to Pharos 14:07:54 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_spec#ci_requirements_for_pharos_labs 14:08:00 It's just repeating an old one :D 14:08:09 #info Corresponding story in Pharos backlog has also been created 14:08:26 #link https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/PHAROS-38 14:08:38 I saw that 14:09:18 so we can perhaps close this action and come back with a new one once there is some work in Pharos regarding this 14:09:34 Agree. 14:09:43 #info Closed 14:10:12 #info Next AP: trevor_intel to propose way forward with community labs 14:10:27 I think that was also on me to trigger the discussion. 14:10:34 there was a pharos meeting last week 14:10:40 and we created the initial pharos backlog 14:10:42 I think that one is ongoing... 14:10:49 which includes some backlog items 14:10:56 to start the work on community labs 14:11:12 we need to find someone to work on items 14:11:12 Agree. 14:11:27 together with lab reps 14:11:29 can't find the wiki link, can someone pound it in 14:11:40 ChrisPriceAB: wiki link to what? 14:11:58 the pharos community lab working wiki 14:12:34 I only know 14:12:36 https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_plan 14:12:41 https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_spec#ci_requirements_for_pharos_labs 14:12:45 thanks 14:12:48 https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_spec 14:13:02 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_plan 14:13:05 in the wrong place, that's why i coudn't find it 14:13:14 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_spec 14:13:22 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos_rls_b_plan ongoing pharos B-release planning 14:13:30 himm 14:13:48 I suggest we help Pharos by everybody talking to the lab guys in his company. 14:13:49 shouldn't we do the planning on JIRA since almost all the items on that link already reflected to there 14:13:53 if I'm not mistaken 14:14:11 and each lab rep can take over a subtask from story 14:14:11 yes you are right fdegir, but we need ppl in Pharos who can help get that done... 14:14:14 and work for their lab 14:14:44 agree with uli-k, let's take that to the pharos meeting. 14:15:12 But let's support Pharos by talking to our lab guys directly. I will talk to Huawei lab guys. 14:15:40 #action uli-k talk to Huawei lab guys to support Pharos 14:15:48 Who talks to other labs? 14:16:21 This is ana ction for Trevor and some support from the TSC rep's who's companies are providing labs I think. 14:16:48 So you talk to Ericsson lab guys? 14:16:56 Daniel is already in the loop 14:17:07 he was in the meeting last week 14:17:09 Only when I have to :D (but yeah Dan is already on the calls) 14:17:25 OK. and Intel Trevor should do himself :D:D 14:18:05 I will look at the labs map and contact other lab guys (CMCC, Orange, ...) 14:18:30 #action uli-k to trigger other lab reps according to community lab overview wiki 14:18:39 next AI.... 14:18:45 before going there 14:19:03 they need to work on common lab description template together with the rest of the pharos 14:19:07 there are some new reqs 14:19:17 so it is not just about documenting their lab 14:19:27 that's all :) 14:19:27 Yes. 14:19:39 agree 14:19:47 It doesn't help to document 10 differently looking labs :D 14:20:01 But that's Pharos task then. 14:20:07 #info Next AI:uli-k Clean up the Octopus committer list 14:20:08 #link https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/PHAROS-28 14:20:13 #link https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/PHAROS-29 14:20:28 thx 14:21:06 I am working now with the TSC representatives of the companies with inactive committers. 14:21:46 I also got one response. Chengappa a few weeks ago said he wants to start contributing to octopus now. 14:21:56 But I didn't see any contribution yet. 14:22:13 So I still need to work on this. 14:22:29 #action uli-k Clean up the Octopus committer list 14:22:29 who is Chengappa? 14:22:32 not in info file 14:23:01 cm-r@hp.com 14:23:05 ok 14:23:29 The other HP guy is still silent .... 14:24:10 #info next AI: uli-k to bring slow progress with Pharos to TSC 14:24:22 I did and the other actions are coming from that. 14:24:32 So we can close 14:24:36 #info I got an action from last week's Pharos meeting 14:24:47 Nice! 14:24:49 #info Created the Pharos backlog for R2 based on wiki and the discussions 14:24:50 :D 14:24:56 #link https://jira.opnfv.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20PHAROS%20and%20labels%20%3D%20R2 14:25:07 lots of tasks 14:25:13 lots of work :D 14:25:21 please go through them 14:25:30 and comment on them directly if something doesn't make sense 14:26:06 Do I need to #action that? :D 14:26:19 I think we don't need a separate action for it 14:26:28 Last AI: 14:26:32 # 14:26:48 #info last AI: aricg to help kvmfornfv with regards to keeping their patches in the repo, and to apply them as part of the build step. 14:27:21 it might be public holiday in Canada 14:27:33 but I had a discussion with aricg regarding this 14:27:35 It is also public holilday in US. 14:27:42 and we concluded that there are some guys in kvm project 14:27:48 who already contributed to kernel 14:28:00 so they should be comfortable with the work they need to do 14:28:13 I'm not sure if we should keep this action on aricg 14:28:32 OK. Let's close it. They will come back if unhappy... 14:28:36 we should definitely keep an eye on what they're doing 14:28:42 #info Closed. 14:28:43 but more than that might be too intrusive 14:28:51 don't know 14:29:13 Agree. Several people are concerned about the clone and temporary forking..... 14:29:24 yep, that's the issue 14:29:32 But that should be TSC task, not Octopus. 14:29:44 how can I use their kernel? 14:30:07 I'm not sure if they have any patch in opnfv repo yet 14:30:19 they have config file 14:30:35 the work is ongoing to build their kernel in OPNFV CI 14:30:43 once it is done, it will be uploaded to artifact repo 14:30:53 can they build the kernel? (manually) 14:30:54 then you can download it from there 14:31:09 uli-k: yes 14:31:12 that's the other way 14:31:34 We use distribution from ubuntu or Redhat, I have a little confusion 14:31:41 please see here 14:31:41 https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/1269/ 14:31:45 for their build script 14:32:17 #link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/1269/ 14:32:43 chigang: good question! 14:33:02 We should understand how they see their workflow. 14:33:08 I understood following: 14:33:24 1. Test patch locally from OPNFV repo 14:33:31 2. upstream patch 14:33:44 3. Get patch into the Distros 14:34:03 4. Some time later we have it in the ubuntu or RH version we are using. 14:34:06 or 14:34:13 they provide rpm and deb packages 14:34:33 locally for OPNFV until that patch gets included to distros 14:34:37 this is one of the things they intend to do 14:35:18 Then Brahmaputty would have RH++ or ubuntu++ in it? 14:35:31 fdegir: only rpm packages? not initrd or boot system? 14:36:02 don't have more details than this 14:36:36 chigang: perhaps you can take a look at their meeting minutes 14:36:37 fdegir: can we ask them to provide rpm and deb? if without reboot system will be better 14:36:41 or directly join their meeting 14:37:15 chigang, chenshuai, may I action you? 14:37:15 i will have a look their git repo 14:37:23 yep 14:37:28 please look at that build script 14:37:35 they build rpm there 14:37:54 #action chigang, chenshuai clarify kvm4nfv workflow and how to use their kernel 14:38:02 ok 14:38:11 We need to move on..... 14:38:23 I think aricg already working with them 14:38:28 * ChrisPriceAB thinks a longer discussion with them is needed here. How should we, how do they, etc... 14:38:29 so I'm not sure about this action item 14:38:49 holidays in the US might create some lag on this 14:39:06 holidays in US will be over in a few hours.... 14:39:51 I think the action is to understand their thinking as ChrisPriceAB said. 14:40:27 Shall we move on? 14:40:52 ok 14:41:07 (or do we need to move to releng for more urgent things, since it is already late?) 14:41:35 #topic Lab Compliancy 14:41:51 Anything we didn't discuss already? 14:42:05 already covered this in scope of action item 14:42:24 #info See in Action Item review 14:42:39 #topic B-Release Work 14:42:58 Any urgent things there? 14:43:10 we don't have backlog 14:43:20 what are we going to do for B-release 14:44:46 Yes, that's what we also need for the C milestone (and other things like dependencies....) 14:44:53 #info Releng B-Release Backlog has been created and the team started working on it 14:44:54 #link https://jira.opnfv.org/issues/?jql=project %3D RELENG and labels %3D R2 14:45:18 #undo 14:45:18 Removing item from minutes: 14:45:21 #link https://goo.gl/TxMO6l 14:46:07 #link http://bit.ly/1NdxP9N 14:46:31 Thanks. Let me have a look and work from there. We cannot solve in this meeting. 14:46:39 agree 14:46:41 I will need help from all of you. 14:47:02 I think we will have some work once Pharos comes up with how to utilize community labs 14:47:16 So let's use #opnfv-octopus channel for this in the next days.... 14:47:33 Some topics are dependent on Pharos, but some should be not... 14:48:09 And we should plan a bit ahead, what we do as soon as Pharos comes with that. 14:48:25 .. suggest to give a few minutes to releng.... 14:48:27 we have some ideas on etherpad R2 14:48:34 we can perhaps go over it and prioritize 14:48:41 Yes. 14:49:07 * ChrisPriceAB is dropping off. 14:49:36 fdegir, we have only 10 minutes. Do you need them for releng? Sorry! 14:49:49 1 item 14:49:54 LF Lab Reconfiguration 14:49:59 just an update 14:50:05 and another update for Arno SR1 14:50:16 #topic releng: LF Lab Reconfiguration 14:50:26 fdegir, you are chair.... 14:50:32 #info aricg raised the need for procuring a new switch 14:50:56 #info TSC OKed the purchase so the POD1 conversion should take place after September 13 14:51:07 #info Servers from POD1 will be used for virtual deploys 14:51:21 #info and other project work such as builds, tests, etc. 14:51:28 that's all for releng 14:51:55 #topic Arno SR1 14:52:14 #info Arno SR1 will be released in almost same way as the Arno 14:52:25 #info The steps will be updated on 14:52:31 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/octopus/releasepipeline#arno_sr1_release 14:52:40 I'm working on it so I action myself 14:52:53 #action fdegir to update Wiki for Arno SR1 release 14:53:00 +1 14:53:19 will send it to PTLs participated to Arno to get feedback 14:53:46 that's all I had to say 14:54:06 There was a question about merging instead of cherrypicking. I didn't understand that. 14:54:12 yep 14:54:21 it's a long story 14:54:38 related to misunderstanding regarding where the SR1 will come from 14:54:50 so foreman guys didn't cherrypick stuff while they fix issues on master 14:55:00 which created big backlog of commits to cherrypick 14:55:04 also some technical reasons 14:55:14 cherrypicking vs merge 14:55:22 Will they go back cherrypicking now? 14:55:26 nope 14:55:28 they already merged 14:55:43 https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/1396/ 14:55:58 I think it is too late to argue regarding this 14:56:04 understand. 14:56:05 we need to make sure this doesn't happen for B-release as well 14:56:18 Yes. There it will create problems.... 14:56:21 and the document you've written is read and understood by everyone 14:56:32 if changes needed, they should be done well before the release 14:56:36 Here, and in one project, we can manage.... 14:56:42 <[1]JonasB> FUel is using cherrypicking for SR1 14:56:52 yep 14:56:56 but not foreman 14:57:25 no further comments since this should have been known and followed for everyone 14:57:34 that document has been around for almost 2 months 14:57:46 In Brahmaputty and also if there is a SR2, we should make sure everybody follows proces. 14:57:56 yes 14:58:21 .. only I still need to incorporate some of the comments..... 14:58:28 .. my backlog 14:58:57 Anyways, we have to give way to BGS call - unless there is something really urgent left. 14:59:14 not from me 14:59:26 #info Thanks everybody for good meeting! 14:59:30 #endmeeting