15:02:55 <ChrisPriceAB> #startmeeting Brahmaputra weekly project meeting 15:02:55 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Sep 29 15:02:55 2015 UTC. The chair is ChrisPriceAB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:55 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:02:55 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'brahmaputra_weekly_project_meeting' 15:03:01 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair debra 15:03:01 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB debra 15:03:08 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair debrascott 15:03:08 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB debra debrascott 15:03:12 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair rpaik 15:03:12 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB debra debrascott rpaik 15:03:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #topic roll call 15:03:26 <uli-k> #info Uli Kleber (Octopus) 15:03:26 <ChrisPriceAB> #info Chris Price 15:03:27 <anac1> #info Ana Cunha (Yardstick) 15:03:38 <trozet> #info Tim Rozet (Apex) 15:03:53 <KLuehrs> #info Kevin Luehrs (LSOAPI) 15:03:53 <chenshuai1> #info chenshuai (Compass4nfv) 15:03:55 <fdegir> #info Fatih Degirmenci (Releng) 15:04:01 <mbeierl> #info Mark Beierl (StorPerf) 15:04:16 <rprakash> #info rprakash 15:04:28 <StuartMackie> #info Stuart Mackie (OpenContrail Virtual Networking) 15:04:45 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan 15:05:00 <debrascott> #topic Agenda Bashing 15:05:07 <debrascott> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/brahmaputra/minutes 15:05:30 <bin_> #info Bin Hu (IPv6) 15:05:40 <maryamtahhan> #info Maryam Tahhan 15:06:15 <ashyoung> #info Ashlee Young (onosfw) 15:06:39 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners 15:06:41 <debrascott> #topic Milestone C process retrospective 15:06:53 <n0ano> #info n0ano 15:06:57 <VikramDham> #info Vikram Dham (QTIP) 15:07:17 <r-mibu> #info Ryota Mibu (Doctor) 15:07:37 <morgan_orange> #info Morgan Richomme (Functest) 15:07:57 <ljlamers> #info Larry Lamers 15:08:10 <debrascott> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/brahmaputra/minutes 15:09:12 <debrascott> #action Debra make link to Brahmaputra release very visible from front of WIKI 15:09:27 <frankbrockners> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/brahmaputra/release_plan 15:09:40 * ChrisPriceAB is only on IRC for this call unfortunately (take minutes please :) 15:10:22 <debrascott> #info process a little difficult to get into for new projects but otherwise went well 15:12:38 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair frankbrockners 15:12:38 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB debra debrascott frankbrockners rpaik 15:12:45 <debrascott> #topic Jira issues 15:12:47 <ildikov> #info for Milestone D we do not expect this amount of reporting efforts 15:13:03 <ildikov> #info Milestone E is where we would need to have this checkpoint again 15:14:59 <debrascott> #info using Sprint functionality- need to create a board first then drag tasks into the board 15:15:49 <debrascott> #info need administrator rights to create a board 15:16:29 <debrascott> #info look under projects tab, if you have administration rights you’ll see an “administer” tab 15:17:35 <debrascott> #info project leads should have administrative rights 15:18:35 <debrascott> #info project leads can then delegate additional administrators 15:18:52 <maryamtahhan> Yep, just tried it out there :) 15:20:30 <debrascott> #info under administration tab is a “permissions” tab where delegates can be added 15:21:32 <mbeierl> #info under Projects -> Your project name 15:21:48 <mbeierl> #info Will be "Overview" and "Administration" 15:24:00 <debrascott> #action Debra add administration tasks to list of Jira training to be created 15:27:25 <debrascott> #action Mark Beierl to check with Aric on how to make administrator group visible to users 15:28:02 <billyoma> cd 15:29:27 <mbeierl> #info Under "Roles" there is a table of "Project Roles | Users | Groups" with rows "Administrators, Developers, Users" Click in the cell at the intersection of "Administrators+Users" and you can enter the name of additional project administrators that you want to create/start/stop sprints 15:30:09 <mbeierl> #info I incorrectly identified this as "permissions", it is actually the "roles" page 15:30:48 <anac1> there will be a discussion next week on TSC about committer removal 15:32:27 <debrascott> #info Do we need to ever remove people from Jira? A: no because that also removes all their cases 15:33:03 <debrascott> #info you can deactivate users in Jira if necessary 15:33:52 <debrascott> #topic future topics, key to staying on track toward next milestone 15:35:51 <debrascott> #info Frank brings up project interdependencies, make sure they get closed before Milestone D 15:38:05 <debrascott> #action Debra to create a dependency graph 15:38:31 <RayNugent_> #info good to track dependencies but we should avoid adding additional gates 15:40:54 <morgan_orange> FYI we initiated something on the wiki to see the links between Test and Feature projects https://wiki.opnfv.org/feature_test_project_matrix 15:43:57 <morgan_orange> we suggested a first approach with the pad description https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/testing_requests_for_b_release 15:47:21 <ChrisPriceAB> #chair mbeierl 15:47:21 <collabot> Current chairs: ChrisPriceAB debra debrascott frankbrockners mbeierl rpaik 15:49:41 <debrascott> #Ryota asks how to manage test projects dependencies which may require additonal configuration provisions versus what is required for test? 15:50:08 <debrascott> #info Ryota asks how to manage test projects dependencies which may require additonal configuration provisions versus what is required for test? 15:51:24 <morgan_orange> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/testing/ 15:52:07 <debrascott> #info Morgan clarifies that feature projects will need to provide additional things for configuration of tests and because of this there are additional milestones needed for test projects. 15:52:57 <debrascott> #info test projects will not write feature project tests, they will help you with it 15:53:12 <anac1> morgan_orange: if the feature project has a specific requirement (e.g. component version), it should be the feature project to add the requirment to the installers? 15:53:54 <morgan_orange> for me yes 15:54:00 <anac1> for me too 15:54:24 <morgan_orange> only the feature projects knows what it needs 15:55:06 <anac1> and the test projects, we fix our own requirments, or? 15:55:33 <frankbrockners> i think the question Ryota is asking is the following: Assume you need O/S Heat and O/S Tacker for your project to be tested. 15:55:37 <morgan_orange> if we have our own test suites that require tuning in the config, yes 15:55:50 <frankbrockners> Who would install Heat and Tacker for that project. 15:56:05 <anac1> morgan_orange: agree 15:56:20 <frankbrockners> And I believe the answer given here is that the project that requires Heat and Tacker would install it prior to their e.g. Tempest tests to run 15:56:29 <frankbrockners> question is whether this is always feasible 15:57:05 <morgan_orange> Heat was already included in Arno 15:57:31 <morgan_orange> if we take the example of Tacker, would it be a requirement for genesis => need for tacker 15:57:36 <KLuehrs> Need to drop - have another call to start. Thanks all. 15:57:59 <morgan_orange> then feature project shall create the tacker config/scenario and discuss with a Test project for integration in CI pipeline 15:58:00 <frankbrockners> we even have Tacker as an ask - but Tacker is out of scope for OPNFV 15:58:13 <frankbrockners> this was the answer given so far 15:58:23 <morgan_orange> and heat was not :) 15:58:43 <frankbrockners> luckily noone asked the scope question on Heat 15:59:04 <morgan_orange> but right this is a valid question. the vIMS testcase include the deployment of a Cloudify solution to manage the deployment of the vIMS 15:59:24 <morgan_orange> it is managed by the functest project as it is a test case of Functest 15:59:50 <morgan_orange> and it works manually on Arno 16:00:11 <anac1> same for the virtual traffic classifier in yardstick 16:00:27 <frankbrockners> Could we do a timecheck on this meeting? we're at the top of the hr.. 16:01:03 <frankbrockners> debrascott: Arno SR1 synch meeting is waiting to use this channel.. 16:01:42 <frankbrockners> thanks debrascott 16:01:45 <debrascott> #endmeeting