13:59:23 <uli-k_> #startmeeting Octopus weekly meeting 13:59:23 <collabot> Meeting started Mon Oct 5 13:59:23 2015 UTC. The chair is uli-k_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:59:23 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:59:23 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'octopus_weekly_meeting' 13:59:52 <uli-k_> #topic roll call 14:00:12 <trozet> #info Tim Rozet 14:00:16 <uli-k_> Hello everybody! Type #info if you want to participate in octopus meeting 14:00:24 <[1]JonasB> #info Jonas Bjurel 14:00:47 <fdegir> #info Fatih Degirmenci 14:01:31 <uli-k_> My chinese colleagues will probably be not here, since it is a holiday in China. 14:02:13 <uli-k_> So looks like we are a smaller group today. 14:02:25 <uli-k_> #topic Agenda review 14:02:58 <uli-k_> I just saw I forgot to update the date .... 14:03:37 <uli-k_> #info besides standard topics, I just put there "Starting work on B Jira topics" 14:03:56 <uli-k_> Should we add the lab configuration question Fatih had in the email? 14:04:22 <trozet> yes 14:04:22 <fdegir> yes 14:04:54 <fdegir> it makes your action item more important :) 14:05:01 <uli-k_> #info Adding lab configuration to the agenda. 14:05:07 <uli-k_> Yes. 14:05:27 <uli-k_> And sorry, I didn't press the lab owners yet. :( 14:05:53 <uli-k_> anything else for agenda? 14:06:15 <uli-k_> Then let's go for Action Items. 14:06:24 <uli-k_> #topic action item review 14:06:49 <uli-k_> #info first AI: uli-k trozet ChrisPriceAB: clarify the need of doing Brahmaputra release on LF Lab 14:07:16 <uli-k_> No progress.... 14:07:29 <trozet> uli-k: I personally think if the lab meets pharos requirements it shouldn't matter if its LF or not 14:07:31 <fdegir> can this go to the top of the agenda for tomorrow's TSC? 14:07:37 <fdegir> it's been there for more than a month 14:07:50 <fdegir> +1 trozet 14:08:07 <uli-k_> I can try persuade ChrisPriceAB 14:08:35 <uli-k_> I'll put the action again here..... 14:08:57 <uli-k_> #action uli-k trozet ChrisPriceAB: clarify the need of doing Brahmaputra release on LF Lab - put high priority on TSC agenda 14:09:40 <uli-k_> #info next: uli-k talk to Huawei lab guys to support Pharos 14:09:58 <uli-k_> Need to wait for them coming back from holiday now. 14:10:06 <uli-k_> #action uli-k talk to Huawei lab guys to support Pharos 14:10:26 <uli-k_> #info next: uli-k to trigger other lab reps according to community lab overview wiki 14:10:28 <fdegir> uli-k_: have a comment regarding that 14:10:45 <fdegir> as I put into the wiki, we have lots of huawei slaves there 14:10:48 <fdegir> which is good 14:10:55 <fdegir> but connection is not stable 14:11:15 <fdegir> can you push lab guys to increase the bandwidth, check the network, etc. to make sure they're up at all times 14:11:28 <fdegir> or else, it will fail on connectivity tests which I'm about to write 14:11:37 <uli-k_> OK. Point taken. 14:11:44 <fdegir> checking how much a certain slave is up and utilized 14:11:48 <fdegir> thx 14:12:04 <uli-k_> #action uli-k to talk to Huawei lab guys to increase the bandwidth, check the network, etc. to make sure they're up at all times 14:12:29 <uli-k_> As already said, my action to other lab reps is also still open. Sorry. 14:12:39 <fdegir> np 14:12:43 <uli-k_> #action uli-k to trigger other lab reps according to community lab overview wiki 14:13:02 <uli-k_> But the next one I can close :D 14:13:12 <uli-k_> #info next AI: uli-k to remove 3 committers from INFO file and inform TSC 14:13:22 <uli-k_> #info done 14:13:57 <uli-k_> I reached chengappa via slack. He wanted to call in today. Chengappa, are you here? 14:14:52 <uli-k_> For another HP guy whom I was not able to contact, and for Palani, I start TSC process for committer removal. 14:15:09 <uli-k_> After that we are down to 8 committers. 14:15:32 <uli-k_> So I will go on talking to people to come back or resign. 14:15:58 <uli-k_> Which was the last AI on the list. 14:16:11 <uli-k_> Shall we go for the lab issue first? 14:16:31 <fdegir> yes 14:16:51 <uli-k_> #topic Reconfiguration of LF POD 1 14:16:57 <fdegir> the reason I sent mail is the mail morgan_orange sent last week 14:17:04 <fdegir> regarding no of needed PODs 14:17:27 <fdegir> also looking at our sorry resource state 14:17:53 <fdegir> made me ask myself if we should keep the POD since LF PODs are the only ones that usable 14:18:24 <fdegir> and we have that discussion going on 14:18:35 <fdegir> #info The discussion is related to reconfiguration of LF POD1 14:18:57 <fdegir> #info Should we reconfigure LF POD1 and convert all servers to standalone servers 14:19:02 <uli-k_> That was your option 1, right ? Use some of the servers in POD 1 for virtual deploy. 14:19:26 <fdegir> that is option 2 14:19:52 <fdegir> #info Above option is the original plan we decided some time ago 14:20:18 <fdegir> #info First option is not to convert LF POD1 and keep it as it is; to be used for work on metal 14:20:47 <fdegir> it seems we have slight majority regarding following the original plan 14:20:57 <fdegir> #info It seems we have slight majority regarding following the original plan 14:21:07 <uli-k_> Question to option 2: Can we run virtual deployment on all these servers then? 14:21:42 <fdegir> uli-k_: 1 (or maybe 2) will be build server 14:21:51 <fdegir> the rest will probably be virt deployment 14:22:02 <fdegir> depending on what other projects out there, needing resources 14:22:20 <fdegir> kvm is an example 14:23:13 <fdegir> here is how many servers we will have if we convert the POD 14:23:29 <fdegir> 1 ericsson + 5 intel + 6 LF = 12 14:23:37 <fdegir> 2 or 3 of them will be build servers 14:23:47 <uli-k_> For me, option 2 looks still good then. 14:23:51 <fdegir> majority of the rest will be virt deploys 14:24:09 <fdegir> it looks good for the timebeing 14:24:21 <fdegir> but for work on metal in coming months 14:24:25 <fdegir> it is a bit depressing 14:24:42 <uli-k_> Right. We need the community labs. 14:24:43 <trozet> i think we need to have more servers to launch virt deploy so i go with option 2 14:24:53 <trozet> we also need at least 2 pods to run baremetal deploy 14:24:55 <fdegir> uli-k_: yes 14:24:57 <trozet> but we can use intel lab or something else 14:25:02 <uli-k_> I think community labs should do bare metal 14:25:16 <fdegir> trozet: we need to get lab(s) connected to CI 14:25:21 <fdegir> if it happens, we should be fine 14:25:36 <trozet> fdegir: sure 14:25:42 <fdegir> but the situation is not encouraging 14:25:44 <fdegir> https://wiki.opnfv.org/pharos/hw_resource_allocation 14:26:14 <fdegir> trozet: maybe we can connect the POD (Intel POD2) you use to jenkins 14:26:18 <uli-k_> We have to make people aware of the situation. Great to have your wiki for that. 14:26:20 <fdegir> and you continue using it 14:26:37 <fdegir> and you can still manage your work yourself 14:26:47 <fdegir> enable/disable apex depending on what you need 14:27:01 <fdegir> then we offload POD2 14:27:06 <fdegir> LF POD2 I mean 14:27:26 <fdegir> and fuel will probably move to ericsson-lab 14:27:27 <trozet> fdegir: we can connect intel pod 2 to jenkins for baremetal deploys 14:27:41 <trozet> fdegir: why dont we do that and break down pod1 as our solution? 14:27:41 <fdegir> so apex go to intel pod2, fuel goes to ericsson lab 14:27:54 <fdegir> trozet: if this works for you 14:27:59 <fdegir> I'm more than happy to do that 14:28:00 <trozet> except for that last part 14:28:08 <fdegir> last part? 14:28:10 <trozet> apex goes to pod 2, fuel goes to ericsson lab? 14:28:18 <fdegir> apex -> intel pod2 14:28:23 <fdegir> fuel -> ericsson lab 14:28:35 <fdegir> so we utilize the community labs 14:28:43 <trozet> why do that though? cant we just keep the baremetal pods as a pool 14:28:51 <trozet> and deploy on all of them 14:29:07 <trozet> and does that mean ericsson lab will provide a baremetal pod? 14:29:09 <fdegir> that might cause this "lab reconfig" 14:29:26 <fdegir> yes, we have plans to have baremetal pod 14:29:36 <trozet> ok so thats 3 baremetal pods 14:29:42 <fdegir> trozet: the best is what you say 14:29:49 <fdegir> see all metal pods as pool of pods 14:29:53 <trozet> can we pool them together? 14:29:56 <fdegir> and let jobs use whatever available 14:30:19 <fdegir> as long as we don't get into this LF networking/reconfig issues 14:30:23 <fdegir> that should work 14:30:38 <trozet> ok 14:30:41 <fdegir> but 14:30:47 <fdegir> can we start with intel pod2 first 14:30:54 <fdegir> and make it visible on jenkins 14:31:05 <trozet> fdegir: I think the networking/reconfig issues will be solved when the UCS patch that frankbrockners mentioned last week comes that no longer requires a Vlan 0 tag 14:31:23 <trozet> fdegir: yeah 14:31:26 <fdegir> trozet: can't wait to see it 14:31:32 <fdegir> then we should info this 14:31:37 <frankbrockners> :-) - me too 14:31:43 <fdegir> #info the networking/reconfig issues will be solved when the UCS patch that frankbrockners mentioned last week comes that no longer requires a Vlan 0 tag 14:31:59 <fdegir> #info Intel POD2 will be connected to jenkins 14:32:17 <trozet> fdegir: you want me to work with aricg- to connect intel pod2? 14:32:20 <fdegir> #info Ericsson will also have a metal POD 14:32:24 <fdegir> trozet: please do 14:32:33 <fdegir> #info LF POD2 will also be there 14:32:40 <trozet> #action trozet to connect intel pod 2 to OPNFV CI 14:32:47 <fdegir> #info This makes total 3 metal PODs; 1 OPNFV + 2 community 14:33:11 <trozet> just fyi, we are currently using LF POD1 jumphost to do our apex build, virt deploy 14:33:19 <trozet> so if we coudl leave that server as is 14:33:28 <fdegir> #info The feedback from Octopus is to continue with original LF POD1 and break it down, converting to standalone servers 14:33:29 <trozet> then split the rest out into individual broadcast domains 14:33:49 <fdegir> trozet: can you please make intel machines usable as well? 14:33:58 <fdegir> then we see all slaves as pool of resources 14:34:36 <fdegir> #info LF POD1 jumpstart should not be touched until further notice 14:35:23 <fdegir> trozet: pick one from https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/cihw 14:35:24 <trozet> fdegir: what do you mean make intel machines usable? 14:35:40 <fdegir> trozet: we added 5 servers from another intel POD 14:35:45 <trozet> oh those servers 14:35:48 <fdegir> yes 14:35:58 <trozet> fdegir: OK 14:36:05 <fdegir> ok 14:36:27 <fdegir> I think we are good to move on if no other comments 14:36:40 <fdegir> I'll reply to the latest mail and point to minutes 14:37:17 <fdegir> did uli-k just drop? 14:41:43 <trozet> i guess so fdegir 14:41:48 <trozet> you drive the rest of ht meeting? 14:41:55 <fdegir> I'm not a chair 14:42:07 <fdegir> #topic B-Release Work 14:42:09 <trozet> oh :) 14:42:15 <trozet> heh 14:42:15 <fdegir> let's try :) 14:42:25 <trozet> the bot doesn't like you :) 14:42:33 <fdegir> :) 14:43:02 <fdegir> anyway may I ask a question about apex then? 14:43:28 <fdegir> can more than one virt deploy be run for apex on same server? 14:43:33 <fdegir> or it is only one? 14:43:44 <trozet> hmm good question 14:43:59 <trozet> we could make a modification so that more than 1 could run 14:44:20 <fdegir> then 14:44:25 <fdegir> we can spawn more deploys 14:44:39 <fdegir> how much time it takes for a deploy to complete? 14:44:43 <trozet> right now we cannot, but all it would need is change of bridges and domain names in libvirt 14:45:08 <trozet> fdegir: cannot comment on that yet as we don't have the deploy fully working. build takes 45 min and builds all the ISOs 14:45:26 <fdegir> ok 14:45:39 <fdegir> this will be important when we start assigning roles to servers 14:45:56 <fdegir> will ask same questions for fuel as well 14:50:08 <uli-k_> Hi 14:50:20 <fdegir> hi 14:50:32 <uli-k_> Sorry, my connection broke. 14:51:00 <fdegir> np 14:51:14 <fdegir> we couldn't end the meeting even though we tried hard :) 14:51:15 <uli-k_> could you continue? 14:51:36 <fdegir> tried to switch to B-release work 14:51:43 <uli-k_> Ok, so i end the meeting now. 14:52:03 <fdegir> was just joking 14:52:15 <fdegir> we can perhaps switch the topic to B-release work and then we end 14:52:26 <uli-k_> :D 14:52:46 <uli-k_> #Topic B release 14:53:31 <uli-k_> #chair fdegir trozet 14:53:31 <collabot> Current chairs: fdegir trozet uli-k_ 14:54:32 <fdegir> I think we're moving towards what we planned 14:54:36 <fdegir> a bit slow perhaps 14:54:53 <fdegir> but we have fuel, apex, and compass jobs there 14:55:06 <uli-k_> Yes. And the Pharos dependency bothers me. 14:55:28 <fdegir> uli-k_: yes, all the stuff I write is in order to make this obvious 14:55:42 <fdegir> trying to find workarounds 14:55:50 <uli-k_> I fear people dont know what it means. 14:56:21 <uli-k_> We cannot just kick Pharos out of B 14:56:25 <fdegir> yes 14:56:36 <fdegir> and we cannot just say "here is our lab" 14:56:39 <fdegir> it must work 14:57:20 <uli-k_> Right. I try to bring this to the release meeting... 14:57:41 <fdegir> I plan to create this script to visualize uptime of the slaves 14:57:54 <uli-k_> And now we have to give the channel to genesis 14:57:56 <fdegir> and then say "sorry you do not fulfil CI reqs" 14:58:02 <fdegir> you're out of jenkins 14:58:09 <fdegir> to get some attention 14:58:30 <fdegir> ok 14:58:33 <uli-k_> Yes. 14:58:45 <uli-k_> Ok thanks all! 14:59:01 <uli-k_> #Endmeeting