13:05:07 <bryan_att> #startmeeting Dovetail Weekly Meeting
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13:05:07 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'dovetail_weekly_meeting'
13:05:39 <bryan_att> #info Hongbo intros dovetail framework (slides) and goals to promote more involvement
13:06:27 <bryan_att> #info the slides were presented last meeting
13:06:35 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan
13:07:03 <bryan_att> #info Starting with requirements collection from TSC, C&C, ...
13:08:36 <bryan_att> #info ChrisPriceAB the role of the TSC is to promote the project but not put requirements on it
13:11:12 <bryan_att> #info ChrisPriceAB helping clarifying the scope of test projects and C&C is another goal
13:14:11 <bryan_att> #info bryan_att refs the email thread on collecting input on test plans and explaining the role/tools of test projects, as well as aligning them, as a goal - recommends dovetail members provide input on the wiki and email
13:19:33 <bryan_att> #info bryan_att asks for clarification of what we are certifying - products (commercial, based upon open source), projects (e.g. Congress), APIs (e.g. a collection of NBI from VIMs)
13:22:08 <bryan_att> #info hongbo shows the "what to certify" slide
13:23:32 <bryan_att> #info yuyang suggests that we should start with certifying labs, and use the test cases that have been developed by the community as a base
13:29:06 <Julien-zte> #info Julien
13:29:19 <jmorgan1> #info Jack Morgan
13:29:43 <bryan_att> #info bryan_att suggests that labs that are being developed should be integratable into the test reporting API so that results from their testing can be collected, and they can get  to the point of being a certifiable lab by verifying that their lab complies with the test reporting requirements
13:30:44 <bryan_att> #info ... this is before the lab requests an official certification per OPNFV's agreed criteria (when they are developed)
13:31:25 <bryan_att> #info hongbo is dovetail intending to participate in releases?
13:31:34 <jmorgan1> why do we need to certify a lab? i think certifying projects (software) is more relevant
13:31:59 <jmorgan1> as long as infrastructure is pharos compliant what do we care?
13:31:59 <bryan_att> #info ChrisPriceAB we need first to capture actions to resolve the topics brought up today, e.g. use JIRA to track the activities
13:32:07 <Julien-zte> #info jmorgan1, I also care about this
13:32:50 <bryan_att> #info hongbo: we need to join release C first
13:33:27 <bryan_att> #info ... this will help make regular progress on what Chris mentioned
13:34:01 <bryan_att> #info ChrisPriceAB: joining requires that those things be done in advance (e.g. JIRA epics etc in place)
13:35:14 <bryan_att> #info yuyang: presents "dovetail deliverable" slide, as details from the last meeting that needs to be discussed - scope of deliverables
13:36:08 <bryan_att> #info ... 4 deliverables: standardized test cases, selected from tests already developed across the test projects
13:37:41 <bryan_att> #info bryan_att suggests that the goal for the test be part of the metadata that the test developer creates for the test, so that the test projects know from what tests to select the candidate certification tests
13:39:24 <bryan_att> #info yuyang: the "leveled capability guideline": tiered capability sets, e.g. core, optional
13:41:13 <bryan_att> #info ... "test specification" describes the specific conformance criteria in a language, e.g. associating with a normative requirement or specific process
13:43:19 <bryan_att> #info ... "certification tools" include testing tools and web portal for certification application and certified product registry
13:45:34 <bryan_att> #info bryan_att suggests that dovetail look at the OpenStack RefStack program to get ideas on how to provide the certification application/registry without developing a lot of tools specific to OPNFV
13:47:18 <bryan_att> #info question about lab certification: yuyang suggests that we will have specific criteria for labs that can be used for certification
13:48:11 <ljlamers> #info Larry Lamers
13:51:33 <bryan_att> #info bryan_att asks what outreach has been made, and whether this has been documented on the wiki (cablelabs was mentioned) - bryan suggested outreach to other existing commercial certification labs e.g. GCF, PTCRB, etc (mobility standards/product focused labs)
13:52:08 <bryan_att> #info hongbo thanks participants for helping move dovetail forward
13:52:14 <bryan_att> #endmeeting