15:02:19 <dneary> #startmeeting SPC Polestar working group meeting
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15:02:19 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'spc_polestar_working_group_meeting'
15:02:25 <dneary> #chair bryan_att
15:02:25 <collabot> Current chairs: bryan_att dneary
15:03:09 <bryan_att> thanks Dave
15:05:05 <dneary> #chair uli-k
15:05:05 <collabot> Current chairs: bryan_att dneary uli-k
15:05:20 <dneary> I lost audio - am I the only one?
15:05:33 <bryan_att> no I got disconnected also
15:05:41 <bryan_att> from the audio only
15:05:52 <yujunz> I lost audio too
15:06:41 <uli-k> .. so it is noty hotel wifi ..
15:08:18 <dneary> #chair yujunz
15:08:18 <collabot> Current chairs: bryan_att dneary uli-k yujunz
15:08:33 <dneary> Does Anthony know we have lost audio?
15:09:56 <uli-k> It seems no
15:17:14 <dneary> uli-k, For a second there I had this mental picture of us all getting audio back to hear "thank you all for your attention, I think this was a great first meeting" :-)
15:18:23 <bryan_att> "of use" seems to be a key aspect. we have to seek consensus on that, from our different perspectives and roles.
15:20:52 <bryan_att> Re the role of this group in assessing the "relevance" of existing projects, I'm unsure about how that would work, and how we would ensure that it remains objective.
15:22:18 <bryan_att> Isn't collaboration promotion and overlap management something that the TSC should be managing?
16:00:23 <dneary> bryan_att, "culture of chaos" - I like that :-)
16:12:40 <bryan_att> the nature of this group as a board-initiated activity is showing in the focus on "discipline" etc. I don't buy that the community can't find an effective consensus and express that upstream etc, without a lot of shepherding.
16:14:26 <bryan_att> I also rather that groups don't set themself up as single points of contact by default. They can acquire that role by proven merit, but that takes time and community support based upon that merit.
13:45:22 <collabot> hongbo_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
13:50:15 <collabot> hongbo_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
14:07:06 <mbuil> what happened?
14:09:32 <Julien-zte> #info Julien
14:15:57 <Julien-zte> GTM exited ?
14:16:10 <kubi001> same with me
14:16:14 <jose_lausuch> there is an email from Bob Monkman from armband project
14:16:22 <dneary> Woah
14:16:23 <jose_lausuch> "  Sorry for the broadcast message but someone keep killing our armband meeting. 7am PDT is our time slot for the last year.  "
14:16:26 <dneary> What happened there?
14:17:55 <Julien-zte> I think ray has applied for a new gtm account
14:18:00 <Julien-zte> again
14:20:45 <collabot> hongbo_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.
14:21:06 <dneary> #endmeeting