14:05:09 <rpaik> #startmeeting OPNFV Projects 14:05:09 <collabot> Meeting started Wed Aug 3 14:05:09 2016 UTC. The chair is rpaik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:05:09 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:05:09 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_projects' 14:05:20 <rpaik> #info Ray Paik 14:05:25 <bjskerry> #info Brian Skerry 14:05:42 <dmcbride> #info David McBride 14:06:05 <bjskerry> #info from TSC minutes June 28th: "Project structure, scope and coordination discussion: There are a number of projects that have not been active or staffed by a single company and has not been able to attract new contributors. There was a good discussion on different metrics to determine the health/status of projects. Brian Skerry and Tapio agreed to meet after their vacations to continue evaluating this topic. " 14:07:44 <bjskerry> #info Some projects are still alive, even though they appeared dormant for a while. 14:09:00 <bjskerry> #info Examples of projects that had no activity for a while but had presentations at the last summit 14:10:58 <bjskerry> #info There are really two types of dormant projects; those that have indicated they plan to participate in a given release and those that don't 14:12:44 <bjskerry> #info If there is nothing happening for multiple release cycles that indicates a problem 14:13:35 <rpaik> #info in addition if there is nothing happening in the OPNFV tools (e.g. Jira, git/gerritt, etc.) 14:16:21 <bjskerry> #info For some projects there are activities, but nothing is being recorded. Having a well-defined process might give projects the incentive to keep status up to date. 14:16:41 <bjskerry> #info Need a way for projects to withdraw intent to participate in a release 14:17:23 <rpaik> #info another criteria is when the project team members are not responsive 14:18:50 <ChrisPriceAB> IRC only meeting? 14:18:59 <bjskerry> #info Meeting minutes are another criteria 14:19:17 <rpaik> ChrisPriceAB let me send you the GTM info 14:19:39 <rpaik> https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/991112053 14:25:24 <bjskerry> #info Can we use Bitergia as an first level indicator of a potential problem? 14:29:31 <rpaik> #info discussion on quarterly report out to the TSC on dormant projects 14:29:37 <ChrisPriceAB> #info I wonder what are the basic metrics we might want to try out. 14:30:59 <rpaik> #info suggested metrics: no activities on the repo's, Jira (per Bitergia), no updates on the wiki, and project team members not responsive 14:32:18 <ChrisPriceAB> #info activity in the repository: Can this be measured in a metric indicative of both contributions to the repo and the level of activity of the projects committers? 14:33:03 <bjskerry> #info For Colorado: of all the projects that planned to participate, 6 to 8 didn't make it. 14:42:29 <rpaik> #info an example of activity metric could be 1-10 for repo activities; 1-10 for closed Jira tickets; etc. 14:43:36 <rpaik> #info a better option could be "top 10" gets a score of 10 14:43:43 <rpaik> #undo 14:43:43 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2c69ad0> 14:47:28 <bjskerry> #info There are really two issues: 1. Objective criteria for health of each project; 2. For little to no activity for a project what should we do about it 14:47:50 <ChrisPriceAB> +1 ^^ 14:48:55 <bjskerry> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/SWREL/Releases+Colorado+Projects 14:53:16 <rpaik> #info discussion on doing a quarterly report of project health 14:56:44 <bjskerry> #info Need to have a discussion in the TSC for projects that are not ready for colorado 14:57:59 <tallgren> We also need to set the criteria for new projects, like the number of participating companies 15:00:58 <dmcbride> #info projects previously removed from Colorado: Escalator, RS, Policy Test 15:01:49 <rpaik> #endmeeting