14:03:29 <bin_> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion
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14:03:39 <bin_> #info Bin Hu
14:03:51 <georgk> #info Georg Kunz
14:03:58 <bin_> #topic New Project Proposal "OpenRetriever"
14:05:45 <bin_> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Project+Proposals+OpenRetriever
14:08:01 <bin_> #info Xuan first introduced some basic requirements
14:08:45 <bin_> #info followed by some background information, especially how container is supported in OpenStack
14:09:33 <bin_> #info Model 1 is to use the embedded container orchestration way
14:10:37 <bin_> #info Model 2 is to use COE (Container Orchestration Engine), such as kubernetes
14:11:31 <bin_> #info Model 3 is to use COE+Zun
14:13:12 <bin_> #info OpenRetriever focuses on Model 3
14:14:33 <bin_> #info Scope, deliverables and dependencies are described
14:14:54 <bin_> #info followed by PTL, committers and contributors
14:17:25 <bin_> #info Container related issues also discussed, such as security, upgrade and kernel binding
14:20:15 <bin_> #info Prem (Ericsson) asks that if there is a baremetal deployment, in case of COE, regarding networking part, do you intend to use kubernetes or native COE APIs
14:20:31 <bin_> #info Prem and Xuan will discuss offline regarding those details
14:20:54 <bin_> #info Prem also asked if there is any performance impact
14:21:28 <bin_> #info Xuan said Intel is working on container performance
14:21:50 <bin_> #info Dave Neary (RedHat) asked if to use kubernetes on top of OpenStack
14:23:07 <bin_> #info i.e. kubernetes as VNFM and OS as VIM (Model 2)
14:23:20 <bin_> #info why to prefer Model 3 than Model 2
14:25:10 <bin_> #info Steve Furr asked if there is an explicit goal of interoperability of VNFs instantiated by VMs and Containers
14:25:35 <bin_> #info Xuan may answer the questions offline
14:27:58 <bin_> #info Bryan (AT&T) asked why does it mean to change COE API to native API?
14:28:34 <bin_> #info Xuan answered that there is a project Zun in OpenStack to handle it
14:33:34 <bin_> #info Bryan suggested to create software within existing scenarios instead of creating additional OPNFV scenarios
14:34:22 <bin_> #info Uli added that those container components can be added to existing scenarios
14:36:39 <bin_> #info Dave N understands it as installing additional components on top of OpenStack
14:38:03 <bin_> #info Chris P (Ericsson) suggested to find an existing scenario to start with
14:42:41 <bin_> #info Bin suggested to continue discussion on mailing list. Prem, Dave or Bryan can initiated the discussion topic
14:43:05 <bin_> #topic PlugFest Planning Wrap-up
14:43:18 <rpaik> #info HW arriving and being setup
14:44:11 <rpaik> #info VPN will be setup today
14:45:56 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT/Co-located+Plugfest-Hackfest+Planning+Page latest plugfest schedule
14:49:36 <rpaik> #info Plugfest participants can work between 8am - 8pm as building will be accessible
14:52:28 <bin_> #info Bryan suggested to create a wiki page of FAQ in addtion to checklist page
14:52:45 <hongbo4545> good idea
14:52:56 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Project+Proposal+Creation+Review+Checklist proposal checklist
14:53:29 <hongbo4545> that can help people to avoid the simple issues.
14:54:17 <bin_> #info Bin will look into it, and encourage everyone to contribute.
14:54:21 <bin_> #endmeeting