14:59:51 <tallgren1> #startmeeting Weekly TSC meeting 14:59:51 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Jan 17 14:59:51 2017 UTC. The chair is tallgren1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:51 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:59:51 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'weekly_tsc_meeting' 15:00:00 <uli-k> #info Uli Kleber 15:00:02 <rossella_s> #info Rossella Sblendido 15:00:03 <hongbo222> #info Hongbo Tian 15:00:06 <tallgren1> #info Tapio Tallgren 15:00:13 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu 15:00:14 <timirnich> #info Tim Irnich 15:00:24 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners 15:00:26 <fdegir> #info Fatih Degirmenci 15:01:02 <rpaik> we now have a quorum 15:01:17 <jmorgan1> #info Jack Morgan 15:01:21 <bjskerry> #info Brian Skerry 15:01:26 <rpaik> #topic approval of previous minutes 15:01:32 <bryan_att> #info Bryan Sullivan 15:01:43 <dneary> #info Dave Neary 15:01:50 <morgan_orange> #info Morgan Richomme 15:02:04 <edgarstp> #info Edgar StPierre 15:02:07 <rpaik> #info no comments on previous minutes thus approved 15:02:15 <StuartMackie> #info Stuart Mackie 15:02:20 <rpaik> #topic agenda bashing 15:02:52 <rpaik> #chair ChrisPriceAB 15:03:17 <trevor_intel> #info Trevor Cooper 15:03:45 <ChrisPriceAB> #info #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/TSC#TSC-January17,2017 todays agenda as described by Tapio 15:04:36 <rpaik> #info no additional topics 15:04:56 <naga> #info naga chumbalkar 15:04:58 <rpaik> #info there will be termination review in two weeks on a couple of projects 15:05:03 <Julien-zte> #info Julien 15:05:10 <tallgren1> #chair rpaik 15:05:10 <collabot> Current chairs: rpaik tallgren1 15:05:20 <rpaik> #topic meetings calendar 15:05:21 <tallgren1> #chair chrispriceab 15:05:21 <collabot> Current chairs: chrispriceab rpaik tallgren1 15:05:40 <rpaik> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/ds/Multi+Calendar+Example 15:05:45 <tallgren1> #topic Meetings page on the wiki.opnfv.org 15:05:58 <tallgren1> #undo 15:05:58 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2461050> 15:07:23 <tallgren1> The two projects applying for termination review were Inspector and Prediction 15:09:46 <tallgren1> #info The new meetings page allows to update meeting information on a single page 15:11:11 <rpaik> #info consensus was to try out the new meeting page approaches and see if there are further areas for improvement going forward 15:11:48 <rpaik> #action rpaik to confirm that the meeting times are in either UTC or Pacific Time 15:12:46 <Julien-zte> I think it shows the local time rpaik 15:14:57 <tallgren1> #info The meeting page is still missing the information about which GoToMeeting account to use 15:16:59 <rpaik> #topic Dovetail update 15:17:07 <tallgren1> #topic Dovetail update 15:17:13 <tallgren1> #undo 15:17:13 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2461490> 15:18:48 <rpaik> #info Wenjing provided an update on the Dovetail project and noted that focus has been on testing NFVi + VIM 15:19:16 <rpaik> #info also the testing will be for each OPNFV release 15:20:47 <hongbo222> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/dovetail/Dovetail+Test+Case+Requirements 15:21:32 <hongbo222> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/dovetail/Dovetail+Test+Areas+and+Test+Cases 15:22:42 <rpaik> #info the Dovetail team is in the process of reviewing test cases and dependencies 15:23:01 <hongbo222> ehterpad 15:23:18 <hongbo222> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/collabrationofdovetail 15:24:18 <tallgren1> #info Dovetail has a test case list on the wiki page 15:24:59 <tallgren1> #info There is also an Etherpad page that has more free-form information such as the state of the documentatio 15:25:25 <trevor_intel_> #link https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/collabrationofdovetail 15:26:00 <tallgren1> #info The file compliance_set.yml will define the final set of test cases 15:26:27 <tallgren1> #info The files like ipv6_tc001.yml will define the test 15:28:20 <tallgren1> #info The tests will be reviewed in gerrit. Whenever there is something to review, at least the test working group will be notified 15:28:22 <rpaik> #info as Dovetail team add new cases, they will communicate to project teams plus Test WG 15:30:39 <rpaik> #info test cases are designed to run either in a private lab (i.e. self test) or at a 3rd party lab. Test runs will also be authenticated 15:30:42 <bryan_att> #info Consensus in dovetail was that the risk of dovetail result abuse/fraud is minimal and manageable 15:33:49 <bryan_att> #info the complexity of any such fraud attempt, and the negative effect of it coming to light, will inhibit implementors (who want to sell their product and be trusted) from attempting it 15:35:22 <rpaik> #info good discussion on how much we want to make "fabrication" of results difficult 15:36:29 <ChrisPriceAB> Completely agree Trevor 15:38:38 <tallgren1> Agree with Trevor also, documenting the results and the configuration would be very valuable 15:39:06 <rpaik> #info there needs to be more discussion among Dovetail team on detailed trace and un-modified output 15:39:37 <tallgren1> #info The timeline is to report to Test WG ion Jan 19, and have final TSC review and approval on Feb 14 15:39:51 <rpaik> #info final test case requirements/cases/etc. will be presented to the TSC in about a month for approval 15:40:02 <tallgren1> #info Release date is planned for Mar 14 15:43:36 <tallgren1> #topic Quaterly project health metrics 15:43:56 <rpaik> #topic OPNFV projects metrics 15:44:16 <bryan_att> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/2926284/Q4%272016%20OPNFV%20Project%20Health%20Metrics%20Jan-16-2017.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1484606743408&api=v2 15:44:30 <tallgren1> #chair bryan_att 15:44:30 <collabot> Current chairs: bryan_att chrispriceab rpaik tallgren1 15:44:46 <jmorgan1> rpaik: scroll down a bit to see legend 15:45:06 <rprakash> #info rprakash 15:45:56 <bryan_att> #info I recommend that assumptions about "level of activity" be clarified in the report, and caveats about mi-interpretation of this data that need to be avoided. 15:46:56 <bryan_att> #info in particular, different projects go thru phases in which activity (e.g. commits) are inhibited by the unavailability of current release installer support 15:48:09 <bryan_att> #info also various other metrics are important to track if you want a fuller view of "activity" - commits are only one 15:48:38 <bryan_att> #info in summary we need to define what we view and value as "health" 15:49:14 <tallgren1> #info jmorgan1 points out that Functest and Releng may get credit for commits from other projects 15:50:34 <fdegir> just to record my view; it is not about getting credit but it is about whole community working on things together 15:51:04 <morgan_orange> +1 15:51:50 <rpaik> #info suggestion for a review period to add relevant comments/explanations 15:52:14 <rpaik> #topic Danube priorities 15:53:24 <rpaik> #info morgan_orange notes that there were additional comments from MANO WG and the Dovetail team on the wiki page 15:53:59 <hongbo222> thank you morgan 15:54:33 <tallgren1> + 15:54:36 <tallgren1> +1 15:58:01 <tallgren1> #info /query dmbride 15:58:10 <tallgren1> #undo 15:58:10 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2187710> 15:58:22 <rpaik> #info morgan_orange notes that "community priorities" should be important for more than 2-3 projects 16:01:17 <uli-k> Agree. Part of release with a pilot 16:01:29 <uli-k> But no discussion of keystone API.... 16:01:34 <rpaik> #info discussion should continue via mailing lists 16:02:14 <tallgren1> #endmeeting