13:01:29 <bh526r> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion 13:01:29 <collabot> Meeting started Thu Sep 21 13:01:29 2017 UTC. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:29 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:01:29 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'weekly_technical_discussion' 13:01:38 <bh526r> #topic Roll Call 13:01:44 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu 13:01:46 <rpaik> #info Ray Paik 13:01:49 <fdegir> #info Fatih Degirmenci 13:01:54 <cgoncalves> #info Carlos Goncalves 13:02:20 <r-mibu> #info Ryota Mibu 13:02:24 <jmorgan1> #info Jack Morgan 13:02:56 <fdegir> https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/12390139/OPNFV_ReleaseModelProposal_20170921.pdf?api=v2 13:03:43 <bh526r> #topic Continue discussion of XCI by Fatih 13:04:05 <bh526r> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/download/attachments/12390139/OPNFV_ReleaseModelProposal_20170921.pdf?api=v2 13:04:43 <randyl> #info Randy Levensalor 13:05:01 <radez> #info radez 13:05:07 <GeraldK> #info GeraldK 13:06:23 <bh526r> #info Fatih summarized what we discussed 2 weeks ago 13:07:11 <bh526r> #info Fatih showed us the proposal of stable track v.s. latest track, and the sequence of miletsones 13:08:00 <bh526r> #info Fatih indicated that there is not much different between 2 tracks in terms of official OPNFV release 13:09:44 <bh526r> #info But latest track not only gives the benefit to projects, but also to users 13:10:01 <bh526r> #info Prakash asked what about scenarios 13:10:54 <bh526r> #info Fatih said that the scenarios will be brought to latest track in a simpler way 13:15:46 <bh526r> #info Fatih talked about why we need a new track 13:16:21 <bh526r> #info This is because (1) minimized impact to current development and release model 13:17:02 <bh526r> (2) Projects have choice and it is possible for them to try a new track 13:23:24 <bh526r> #info Fatih indicated that some initial resources are needed, including developer resources and hardware resources 13:24:29 <bh526r> #info The real benefit is not to reduce resource need, but to use the resources more properly 13:24:53 <bh526r> #info more extensive testing 13:28:48 <bh526r> #info David asked if feedback from test teams, Fatih said it is scheduled to talk with test teams on next Thursday 13:32:08 <bh526r> #info Fatih explained how to handle milestones in latest track, ie. milestones are built into this model and no longer needed explicitly 13:33:58 <bh526r> #info Fatih also explained how test projects can benefit from XCI, e.g. test can be against proven version of latest track, and/or use proven version of test framework/test cases 13:36:45 <bh526r> #info Ray asked when this will be kicked off. Does project need to declare to use stable track or latest track? 13:38:19 <bh526r> #info David clarified that Ray meant new projects. To some point, projects need to have a way to declare to participate in stable track or latest track 13:40:20 <bh526r> #info It doesn't seem an ideal way applicable to all projects. It depends on individual project itself, and upstream components 13:41:48 <bh526r> #info Randy has experimented SNAPS using latest track method 13:42:54 <bh526r> #info Randy shared his experience of benefit, and his team really liked it 13:45:16 <bh526r> #info Prakash asked Dovetail, and Fatih said open to test teams 13:45:55 <bh526r> #info Fatih also indicated to keep the bar at proper level, not too high and not too low 13:47:24 <bh526r> #info it will be discussed with test group next week 13:48:12 <bh526r> #info Fatih showed the plan, i.e. to ask TSC approval on Oct 10 and kick off experiment on Oct 10 13:53:44 <bh526r> #info Group agreed that XCI is the right way to go, and benefit to OPNFV community by bring it to TSC for approval. So group agreed to the plan that Fatih presented. 13:54:23 <bh526r> #info Fatih will have another discussion with test teams, and will come back with the revised version, which will be the version to TSC, in a couple of weeks 13:54:54 <bh526r> #topic Graduation Review of Doctor Project 13:55:34 <bh526r> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Weekly+Technical+Discussion?preview=/2925877/12391214/OPNFV%20Doctor%20graduation%20proposal.pdf 14:00:24 <bh526r> #info Ryota introduced the graduation request 14:00:44 <bh526r> #info Ray said that he would give some comments in email, but one comment is what is the future plan 14:04:31 <bh526r> #info We will continue the discussion on mailing list, and hopefully to bring it to TSC directly 14:04:37 <bh526r> #info meeting adjourned 14:04:41 <bh526r> #endmeeting