14:00:02 <bh526r> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion 14:00:02 <collabot`> Meeting started Thu Dec 20 14:00:02 2018 UTC. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:02 <collabot`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:02 <collabot`> The meeting name has been set to 'weekly_technical_discussion' 14:00:30 <bh526r> #topic Roll Call 14:00:49 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu 14:00:57 <bh526r> #info Trevor Cooper 14:01:52 <bh526r> #info Mark Beierl 14:02:49 <bh526r> #info Cristina Pauna 14:04:58 <bh526r> #info Pierre Lynch 14:05:04 <bh526r> #info Al Morton 14:05:30 <bh526r> #topic Discussion of Code and Release Quality 14:06:52 <bh526r> #info Cristina introduced the process of implementation 14:07:09 <bh526r> #info There are 6 steps in the process 14:07:43 <bh526r> #info Step 1 is to create standard format for input 14:08:10 <bh526r> #info Step 2 is to gather proposals 14:08:53 <bh526r> #info Step 3 is to debate proposals, polish them and get them in a better shape. This can be done in weekly technical discussion 14:09:09 <bh526r> #info Step 4 is to get approval from TSC 14:09:30 <bh526r> #info Step 5 is to create a JIRA for each proposal 14:10:04 <bh526r> #info Step 6 is to monitor progress, e.g. get them implemented, etc. 14:11:08 <bh526r> #info Mark asked if we want to achieve a consistent format of all projects, or we allow each project flexibility 14:14:41 <bh526r> #info Cristina explained we intend to help project, if one proposal gets buy-in of all projects, they will adopt it. If one proposal only gets support of very few projects, or no resources, then it won't be adopted. 14:15:13 <bh526r> #info Mark likes the approach of project helps each other 14:15:26 <bh526r> #info Cristina further introduces the template 14:16:10 <bh526r> #info as the Step 1 14:18:57 <bh526r> #info The template includes (1) Problem description (2) Possible solution and Pros and Cons analysis (3) Resources needed such as HWs and human resources (4) Proposed Changes and (5) Owner of Implementation 14:20:39 <bh526r> #info Cristina gives an example of using template to describe (1) Use FuncTest to Verify Installer Patches (2) Reduce the time it takes for running tests 14:23:49 <bh526r> #info Georg Kunz 14:26:55 <bh526r> #info Al says it is worth trying 14:27:13 <bh526r> #info Trevor asks if there is specific area for each project 14:27:43 <bh526r> #info Cristina doesn't think there is a reason to have a limit 14:28:33 <bh526r> #info Trevor thinks TSC may make some suggestions 14:29:40 <bh526r> #info Mark thinks the idea is that anyone can make a proposal, and if enough interest, TSC may make guidance of where resources should go 14:30:40 <bh526r> #info Trevors thinks eventually we need to apply the process to direct the direction 14:31:03 <bh526r> #info Cristina thinks the area is the code and release 14:33:15 <bh526r> #info Mark thinks there is a TSC checkpoint in the process. When TSC takes the checkpoint, TSC will consider the strategic direction. 14:33:52 <bh526r> #info Mark suggests that we add a bullet point of TSC checkpoint to check alignment with strategic direction 14:34:07 <bh526r> #info Trevor likes this suggestion 14:35:04 <bh526r> #info Mark thinks TSC's role is to help proposal get more alignment with strategic direction 14:35:56 <bh526r> #info TSC needs to take into account the strategic direction to make go/no go decision 14:36:24 <bh526r> #info Cristina will add a note in the template for TSC to consider aligning with strategic direction 14:38:23 <bh526r> #info Mark is happy with it 14:41:48 <bh526r> #info Cristina will share the proposal and etherpad in the mailing list after new year. Input and comments are expected from community discussion in mailing list, and make proposal more polished and mature. 14:42:28 <bh526r> #info The target is to discuss it again on Jan 24. 14:42:37 <bh526r> #topic AOB 14:42:44 <bh526r> #info Meeting adjourned 14:43:05 <bh526r> #endmeeting