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#opnfv-meeting: Weekly Technical Discussion
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Meeting started by bh526r at 13:00:14 UTC.  The full logs are available
at
http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2019/opnfv-meeting.2019-06-03-13.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Roll Call  (bh526r, 13:00:41)
  * Bin Hu  (bh526r, 13:00:47)
  * David McBride  (dmcbride_, 13:00:59)
  * Fatih Degirmenci  (fdegir, 13:01:33)
  * Manuel Buil  (mbuil, 13:01:51)
  * Daniel Balsiger  (bh526r, 13:02:18)
  * Mark Shostak  (bh526r, 13:02:58)
  * Lincoln Lavoie  (bh526r, 13:03:32)
  * Trevor Cooper  (bh526r, 13:03:45)
  * Georg Kunz  (bh526r, 13:03:57)
  * Parker Berberian  (bh526r, 13:04:16)
  * Rabi A (Vodafone)  (bh526r, 13:04:36)
  * Lincoln Lavoie (UNH-IOL)  (lylavoie, 13:04:55)

* Continue to Discuss New Release Process  (bh526r, 13:05:44)
  * David McBride started to introduce his proposal  (bh526r, 13:06:44)
  * Pierre Lynch  (bh526r, 13:15:25)
  * Mark S asked if MS2 is t-2, and MS1 is t-5, does it make sense to
    move MS2 a few weeks?  (bh526r, 13:17:06)
  * David M said, yes, this is tentative proposal, and we can move it up
    a few weeks  (bh526r, 13:17:38)
  * Rabi indicated that specs from CNTT should be able to indicate those
    details  (bh526r, 13:29:20)
  * Manuel asked what will be specified in common references, i.e.
    version of ODL, or VM needs to start in 20 seconds?  (bh526r,
    13:30:24)
  * Manuel asked if those performance criteria will be defined in
    release criteria.  (bh526r, 13:31:07)
  * David agreed  (bh526r, 13:31:18)
  * Mark S asked detailed explanation of project types  (bh526r,
    13:35:30)
  * When discussing slide #11 the diagram, Bin asked 2 questions
    (bh526r, 13:39:53)
  * (1) Installers are scenario-based projects, how will installers
    decouple from scenario-based projects?  (bh526r, 13:44:18)
  * (2) details of how CNTT implemented in CI?  (bh526r, 13:44:54)
  * Mark commented that speaking from CNTT, if CI is prescribed, and the
    concern is that if CNTT includes CI specs, how will it satisfy
    different system?  (bh526r, 13:50:29)
  * Bin indicated 3 different logical defects of slide #11  (bh526r,
    13:51:15)
  * (1) From multiple installer perspective, what is the root cause of
    the issue that David has observed? PS the issue David described
    (multiple CIs because of installers in upstream) is unclear whether
    or not those are issues  (bh526r, 13:55:02)
  * (2) Without knowing the root cause, we set the goal of moving
    installers from upstream to downstream, it is quite prescriptive.
    (bh526r, 13:55:54)
  * "diagram"  (bh526r, 13:57:26)
  * Bin suggested that CI part needs to be consolidated with long-term
    evolution to CircleCI  (bh526r, 14:06:59)
  * And decouple implementation part from CI, because of those unknown
    details  (bh526r, 14:10:03)
  * Trevor asked how those Release WG meetings were going, and whether
    or not projects/PTLs were engaged.  (bh526r, 14:10:42)
  * The attendance of release WG meetings were low  (bh526r, 14:10:56)
  * Trevor suggested to engage PTLs  (bh526r, 14:11:05)
  * Bin suggested that if we need to engage those PTLs one by one,
    that's the work we should do.  (bh526r, 14:11:33)
  * add (3) Without knowing the answers from Bin's prior questions of
    (1) and (2), David agreed all those details are unknown. So without
    knowing the details, it is immature to propose slide #11 diagram
    because prior was not info'ed  (bh526r, 14:12:54)
  * Bin suggested to have table to compare prior release MSs and new MSs
    for easy understanding. David agreed  (bh526r, 14:14:10)
  * Bin suggested that we can move forward with Iruya release planning
    with those improved steps (MSs). But CI related are premature as
    indicated above, and we should consolidated with long term CI
    evolution to CircleCI.  (bh526r, 14:15:54)

* AOB  (bh526r, 14:16:12)
  * Next week, by default, the same agenda as today. Continue discussion
    of new release process will be 1st agenda item, followed by new
    project proposals.  (bh526r, 14:17:01)



Meeting ended at 14:17:05 UTC.



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