12:59:52 <bh526r> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion 150
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13:00:18 <bh526r> #topic Roll Call
13:00:26 <bh526r> #info Qiao Fu
13:00:41 <bh526r> #info Daniel Balsiger
13:00:46 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu
13:01:04 <bh526r> #info Pierre Lynch
13:01:11 <bh526r> #info Qihui Zhao
13:01:42 <bh526r> #info Georg Kunz
13:02:05 <bh526r> #info Frank Brockners
13:02:41 <bh526r> #info Li Ying
13:02:52 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix
13:04:03 <bh526r> #info Dan Xu
13:04:19 <mj_rex> #info Rex Lee
13:04:28 <bh526r> #info Al Morton
13:04:46 <bh526r> #info Murtuza Khan
13:04:53 <bh526r> #info Mark Shostak
13:05:30 <acmacm> #info Al Morton
13:08:25 <bh526r> #info Trevor
13:08:30 <bh526r> #info Trevor Cooper
13:08:51 <bh526r> #info Manuel Buil
13:09:41 <bh526r> #info Sunku Ranganath
13:09:54 <bh526r> #topic Continue Discussion on How to Support CNTT in OPNFV (Qiao Fu)
13:10:48 <bh526r> #info Qiao Fu indicated that although she originally planned to present a new project proposal CNTT-RI, CNTT itself needs some more discussion internally. So this will be postponed until it is ready by CNTT
13:11:42 <bh526r> #info Qiao shared a slides deck of OPNFV Strategy for CNTT
13:13:49 <bh526r> #info Qiao first introduced ongoing work in CNTT - Reference Model (RM), Reference Architecture (RA), and Reference Implementation (RI) & Verification
13:15:16 <bh526r> #info Now CNTT is evaluating test projects and test cases in OPNFV, and doing gap analysis
13:16:07 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix indicates that he is the liaison in terms of Chapter 8 RI & Verification. We communicated with test leads through email.
13:17:04 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix encourages everyone to contribute to Chapter 8
13:17:47 <bh526r> #info Georg Kunz asked if the emails could include mailing list to ensure the open and transparency.
13:19:41 <bh526r> #info Bin indicated that CNTT business is primarily conducted in its own mailing lists. Everyone is encouraged to subscribe to those mailing lists.
13:19:59 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix did send to those CNTT mailing lists
13:21:18 <bh526r> #info Qiao Fu shared an overall structure about how CNTT and OPNFV will interact, and how OPNFV projects (feature projects, installer projects and test projects) can be organized in a high level
13:22:42 <bh526r> #info Qiao thinks that we should have this new CNTT-RI feature project as a starting point
13:23:07 <bh526r> #info Qiao also worried about installer projects, not so active
13:23:33 <bh526r> #info And another question is the gap of testing
13:24:28 <bh526r> #info Frank asked if Qiao has worked with any installers and got any confirmation
13:24:50 <bh526r> #info Qiao said the only confirmation was from Airship Installer.
13:25:41 <bh526r> #info Another active installer is Fuel, and Qiao never received confirmation from Fuel regarding support of CNTT
13:26:06 <bh526r> #info Georg asked test case analysis and test harness
13:26:39 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix said that CNTT is doing gap analysis.
13:27:28 <bh526r> #info Qiao said that she already created a wiki page for CNTT-RI project proposal, so she is looking for feedback from community
13:28:13 <bh526r> #info Qiao shared her idea about how we should promote progress in OPNFV
13:29:03 <bh526r> #info (1) Bring new project and resources
13:29:23 <bh526r> #info (2) finalize details of RA
13:29:46 <bh526r> #info and how RI should be done
13:30:00 <bh526r> #info (3) installer resources
13:30:07 <bh526r> #info (4) testing resources
13:31:36 <bh526r> #info (5) what to do with those projects that are not directly related to CNTT
13:32:09 <bh526r> #info (6) a new WG for CNTT, which coordinates with those projects for CNTT
13:33:12 <bh526r> #info Guangzhi Yang
13:35:03 <bh526r> #info Qiao asked what is eventual vision of OPNFV? We should discuss it in OPNFV
13:36:02 <bh526r> #info Georg also concurred. Some kind of structure - CNTT WG, test WG, etc.
13:36:32 <bh526r> #info also how the new project can trigger the testing
13:37:01 <bh526r> #info Frank mentions that it is contribution driven, so we need to bring new resources
13:37:33 <bh526r> #info Frank thinks what Fu Qiao suggested very aligned with current OPNFV projects and process
13:38:13 <bh526r> #info And it just naturally flows it, brings new resources, and makes it happen
13:39:09 <bh526r> #info Qiao thinks we are lacking vision, and perhaps community needs a clear vision
13:39:43 <bh526r> #info Frank thinks that once we have new projects, and we will have new resources
13:47:26 <bh526r> #info Bin suggested that we reserve 20 minutes of every TSC meeting starting from next week (9/3) to discuss those questions regarding vision.
13:47:45 <bh526r> #info All agreed
13:48:09 <bh526r> #topic Report the Discussion Result in CNTT Meeting on Wednesday 8/21 (Trevor Cooper)
13:49:52 <bh526r> #info Trevor described examples of different flavors of compute etc.
13:50:41 <bh526r> #info e.g. large CPU small memory, is it correct? or vice versa small CPU, large RAM?
13:51:04 <bh526r> #info we need to work out those controversial configurations
13:54:29 <bh526r> #info Mark Shostak asked if Trevor thought about the comments CNTT gave in the discussion?
13:55:38 <bh526r> #info Mark asked Trevor to reply to Mark's email regarding those details
13:55:59 <bh526r> #info e.g. capacity, performance, standard unit, etc.
13:58:39 <bh526r> #info Trevor thinks we need more input from community, e.g. test projects etc.
13:59:00 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix indicated that he already incorporated some of Trevor's contribution to Chapter 8
13:59:25 <bh526r> #info Trevor thinks it could be topic in Test WG
14:00:40 <bh526r> #info Al indicated that someone can propose an agenda, and Test WG can discuss it
14:01:08 <bh526r> #info We can find a time, because schedule changes
14:01:18 <bh526r> #info Trevor suggested to start this Thursday
14:04:59 <bh526r> #info Trevor and Al will work together to schedule the discussion at 8am Thursday this week 8/29
14:05:04 <bh526r> #topic AOB
14:07:52 <bh526r> #info CNTT Reference Architecture Discussion Mailing List
14:07:56 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-tech-refa
14:08:09 <bh526r> #info CNTT Reference Model Discussion Mailing List
14:08:25 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-tech-refm
14:10:00 <bh526r> #info CNTT Governance
14:10:05 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-gov
14:10:40 <bh526r> #info CNTT Technical Steering Committee
14:10:45 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-tech-steering
14:11:14 <bh526r> #info Meeting adjourned
14:11:19 <bh526r> #endmeeting