12:59:52 <bh526r> #startmeeting Weekly Technical Discussion 150 12:59:52 <collabot`> Meeting started Mon Aug 26 12:59:52 2019 UTC. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:59:52 <collabot`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 12:59:52 <collabot`> The meeting name has been set to 'weekly_technical_discussion_150' 13:00:18 <bh526r> #topic Roll Call 13:00:26 <bh526r> #info Qiao Fu 13:00:41 <bh526r> #info Daniel Balsiger 13:00:46 <bh526r> #info Bin Hu 13:01:04 <bh526r> #info Pierre Lynch 13:01:11 <bh526r> #info Qihui Zhao 13:01:42 <bh526r> #info Georg Kunz 13:02:05 <bh526r> #info Frank Brockners 13:02:41 <bh526r> #info Li Ying 13:02:52 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix 13:04:03 <bh526r> #info Dan Xu 13:04:19 <mj_rex> #info Rex Lee 13:04:28 <bh526r> #info Al Morton 13:04:46 <bh526r> #info Murtuza Khan 13:04:53 <bh526r> #info Mark Shostak 13:05:30 <acmacm> #info Al Morton 13:08:25 <bh526r> #info Trevor 13:08:30 <bh526r> #info Trevor Cooper 13:08:51 <bh526r> #info Manuel Buil 13:09:41 <bh526r> #info Sunku Ranganath 13:09:54 <bh526r> #topic Continue Discussion on How to Support CNTT in OPNFV (Qiao Fu) 13:10:48 <bh526r> #info Qiao Fu indicated that although she originally planned to present a new project proposal CNTT-RI, CNTT itself needs some more discussion internally. So this will be postponed until it is ready by CNTT 13:11:42 <bh526r> #info Qiao shared a slides deck of OPNFV Strategy for CNTT 13:13:49 <bh526r> #info Qiao first introduced ongoing work in CNTT - Reference Model (RM), Reference Architecture (RA), and Reference Implementation (RI) & Verification 13:15:16 <bh526r> #info Now CNTT is evaluating test projects and test cases in OPNFV, and doing gap analysis 13:16:07 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix indicates that he is the liaison in terms of Chapter 8 RI & Verification. We communicated with test leads through email. 13:17:04 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix encourages everyone to contribute to Chapter 8 13:17:47 <bh526r> #info Georg Kunz asked if the emails could include mailing list to ensure the open and transparency. 13:19:41 <bh526r> #info Bin indicated that CNTT business is primarily conducted in its own mailing lists. Everyone is encouraged to subscribe to those mailing lists. 13:19:59 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix did send to those CNTT mailing lists 13:21:18 <bh526r> #info Qiao Fu shared an overall structure about how CNTT and OPNFV will interact, and how OPNFV projects (feature projects, installer projects and test projects) can be organized in a high level 13:22:42 <bh526r> #info Qiao thinks that we should have this new CNTT-RI feature project as a starting point 13:23:07 <bh526r> #info Qiao also worried about installer projects, not so active 13:23:33 <bh526r> #info And another question is the gap of testing 13:24:28 <bh526r> #info Frank asked if Qiao has worked with any installers and got any confirmation 13:24:50 <bh526r> #info Qiao said the only confirmation was from Airship Installer. 13:25:41 <bh526r> #info Another active installer is Fuel, and Qiao never received confirmation from Fuel regarding support of CNTT 13:26:06 <bh526r> #info Georg asked test case analysis and test harness 13:26:39 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix said that CNTT is doing gap analysis. 13:27:28 <bh526r> #info Qiao said that she already created a wiki page for CNTT-RI project proposal, so she is looking for feedback from community 13:28:13 <bh526r> #info Qiao shared her idea about how we should promote progress in OPNFV 13:29:03 <bh526r> #info (1) Bring new project and resources 13:29:23 <bh526r> #info (2) finalize details of RA 13:29:46 <bh526r> #info and how RI should be done 13:30:00 <bh526r> #info (3) installer resources 13:30:07 <bh526r> #info (4) testing resources 13:31:36 <bh526r> #info (5) what to do with those projects that are not directly related to CNTT 13:32:09 <bh526r> #info (6) a new WG for CNTT, which coordinates with those projects for CNTT 13:33:12 <bh526r> #info Guangzhi Yang 13:35:03 <bh526r> #info Qiao asked what is eventual vision of OPNFV? We should discuss it in OPNFV 13:36:02 <bh526r> #info Georg also concurred. Some kind of structure - CNTT WG, test WG, etc. 13:36:32 <bh526r> #info also how the new project can trigger the testing 13:37:01 <bh526r> #info Frank mentions that it is contribution driven, so we need to bring new resources 13:37:33 <bh526r> #info Frank thinks what Fu Qiao suggested very aligned with current OPNFV projects and process 13:38:13 <bh526r> #info And it just naturally flows it, brings new resources, and makes it happen 13:39:09 <bh526r> #info Qiao thinks we are lacking vision, and perhaps community needs a clear vision 13:39:43 <bh526r> #info Frank thinks that once we have new projects, and we will have new resources 13:47:26 <bh526r> #info Bin suggested that we reserve 20 minutes of every TSC meeting starting from next week (9/3) to discuss those questions regarding vision. 13:47:45 <bh526r> #info All agreed 13:48:09 <bh526r> #topic Report the Discussion Result in CNTT Meeting on Wednesday 8/21 (Trevor Cooper) 13:49:52 <bh526r> #info Trevor described examples of different flavors of compute etc. 13:50:41 <bh526r> #info e.g. large CPU small memory, is it correct? or vice versa small CPU, large RAM? 13:51:04 <bh526r> #info we need to work out those controversial configurations 13:54:29 <bh526r> #info Mark Shostak asked if Trevor thought about the comments CNTT gave in the discussion? 13:55:38 <bh526r> #info Mark asked Trevor to reply to Mark's email regarding those details 13:55:59 <bh526r> #info e.g. capacity, performance, standard unit, etc. 13:58:39 <bh526r> #info Trevor thinks we need more input from community, e.g. test projects etc. 13:59:00 <bh526r> #info Mike Fix indicated that he already incorporated some of Trevor's contribution to Chapter 8 13:59:25 <bh526r> #info Trevor thinks it could be topic in Test WG 14:00:40 <bh526r> #info Al indicated that someone can propose an agenda, and Test WG can discuss it 14:01:08 <bh526r> #info We can find a time, because schedule changes 14:01:18 <bh526r> #info Trevor suggested to start this Thursday 14:04:59 <bh526r> #info Trevor and Al will work together to schedule the discussion at 8am Thursday this week 8/29 14:05:04 <bh526r> #topic AOB 14:07:52 <bh526r> #info CNTT Reference Architecture Discussion Mailing List 14:07:56 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-tech-refa 14:08:09 <bh526r> #info CNTT Reference Model Discussion Mailing List 14:08:25 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-tech-refm 14:10:00 <bh526r> #info CNTT Governance 14:10:05 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-gov 14:10:40 <bh526r> #info CNTT Technical Steering Committee 14:10:45 <bh526r> #link https://lists.opnfv.org/g/cntt-tech-steering 14:11:14 <bh526r> #info Meeting adjourned 14:11:19 <bh526r> #endmeeting