13:00:09 #startmeeting OPNFV TSC 2019-08-27 13:00:09 Meeting started Tue Aug 27 13:00:09 2019 UTC. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:09 The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_tsc_2019_08_27' 13:00:17 #topic Roll Call 13:00:26 #info Mark Beierl 13:00:41 #info Bin Hu 13:00:47 bh526r: can you make me chair as well? Had a network drop and could not start the meeting in time 13:01:02 #chair mbeierl 13:01:02 Current chairs: bh526r mbeierl 13:01:10 sorry Mark 13:01:15 #info Trevor Cooper 13:01:28 not a problem, just thought chair would be useful for notes 13:01:42 of course 13:01:59 #info Panagiotis Karalis 13:03:53 #info Frank Brockners 13:04:09 #info Meeting kicks off with Antitrust policy review 13:04:48 #info Georg Kunz 13:05:28 #info Jack Morgan 13:06:27 #info Al Morton 13:06:54 #Fu Qiao 13:07:16 #info Fu Qiao 13:07:19 #info Fu Qiao 13:07:47 #info Sridhar Rao 13:08:16 #info Sunku Ranganath 13:08:47 #info Dan Xu 13:09:15 #topic Approval of Previous Minutes 13:09:24 #agree Minutes approved 13:09:27 #info no comments on minutes 13:10:06 #topic agenda bashing 13:10:43 #info Manuel Buil 13:11:57 #info Heather Kirksey to send out email about PM updates 13:12:16 #info no chair report this week 13:13:37 #info suggested topics: FY20 budget introduction followed by Iruya release discussion 13:14:26 #info Marketing update will be deferred 13:14:35 #info Brandon Wick to send out update emails 13:14:59 #info Heather stated that MAC liaison from OPNFV is still required 13:16:00 #info Brandon confirms Bob Monkman will step into the MAC position 13:16:59 #info Franck asks if any TSC member missed the meeting yesterday? 13:17:28 #info Sunku confirms he did miss the meeting 13:18:01 * mbeierl apologies for the extra "c" in Franks name... 13:18:59 #info frankbrockners asks for clarification on current allocation for comparison 13:19:16 #topic 2020 Budget Process 13:19:48 #info Arpit clarifies that the process is more about the directional guidelines vs. details 13:20:10 #info frankbrockners confirms that we would like to go over current allocation to see how we performed over the past year 13:21:23 #info Arpit requests OPNFV to identify higher priorities for community if we anticipate changes 13:21:49 #info Arpit asks if the everyone has reviewed spreadsheet 13:21:59 #info bh526r suggests we review it 13:22:48 #info Arpit informs that TSC input to the MAC is being taken into account 13:23:31 #info Kenny posted budget planning webinar recording: 13:23:52 #info Marketing content FY20 is around messaging 13:25:01 #link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GNzxzZBCRVI_Znp2zHYL6btVzNSSs38U/view?usp=sharing 13:26:21 #info Marketing is primarily LFN, whereas project release budget and messaging is joint with project 13:26:39 #info What does OPNFV want to highlight in the coming year? 13:27:22 #info Developer Collaboration budget overview 13:27:52 #undo 13:27:52 Removing item from minutes: 13:28:15 #info Conversation moves to Developer Collaboration budget overview 13:28:48 #info Does OPNFV see a general hosting cost going up or down? 13:29:34 #info frankbrockners states hardware refresh / move to metal as a service had budget already set aside, and it is an open line item 13:30:13 #info frankbrockners confirms OPNFV needs to make some decisions regarding bare metal 13:30:57 #info Conversation oves to LF support, headcount related input 13:31:11 #info will there be significant changes in this area? 13:31:24 #info if the workload increases, why? 13:31:52 #info same with new hardware, will there be changes - along with why 13:32:49 #info frankbrockners confirms that the "TAC discretionary funding" was really project specific (ie: OPNFV) discretionary funding 13:34:51 #info Pause for discussion or QA 13:35:17 #info no questions 13:35:58 #info Arpit states this is a much more structured and simpler approach this year 13:36:27 #info Jim confirms we are not asking for numerical values (dollar figures). 13:36:59 #info Arpit confirms this is about asks (ie: we want a whitepaper) vs. allocation of dollars. 13:38:26 #info financial trade off (eg: we want 5 events, vs there is budget for only 3) is going to be managed by SPC 13:40:30 #info Arpit will work with Jim to provide OPNFV with actuals from FY19 13:41:18 #info frankbrockners asks bh526r if thought has been given to how to run this process to reach conclusions within TSC 13:41:55 #info bh526r replies need fy19 numbers from Arpit so TSC can educate itself. 13:42:08 #info bh526r asks frankbrockners if he can take lead 13:43:00 #info frankbrockners suggests we need an interim meeting to cover discussions - must be done as a community, not as a single person perform the collection of ideas 13:43:20 #info bh526r asks if this same time slot on Wednesday is free? 13:43:40 #info frankbrockners asks about Thursday, but there as conflicts 13:43:59 #info frankbrockners and bh526r suggest Friday 13:44:19 +1 13:44:24 #info frankbrockners proposes 6:00 am PDT on Friday 13:44:45 #info frankbrockners acknowledges this is late for APAC 13:44:58 #info frankbrockners asks all to give thought and review ahead of the Friday meeting 13:45:10 #info jmorgan1 asks if this is open to all or closed for TSC only 13:45:22 #info frankbrockners suggests the meeting be open for all 13:46:00 #info Arpit restates this is not about dollar figures, it is about resourcing, so it is not confidential 13:46:18 #action Jim Baker to send out email for Friday meeting 13:46:37 #info jmorgan1 asks that Jim Baker also send the invite to tech-discuss 13:47:09 #topic Iruya planning 13:47:30 #info dmcbride shares two possible proposals 13:48:04 #info dmcbride first shows traditional release process, compressed for remaining time in year, and showing major holidays and events 13:48:42 #info proposed schedule: MS0: Sept 9 -> MS9: Dec 13. 13:51:07 #info mbeierl asks if MS2 is relevant for other projects such as functest - does MS2 apply beyond installers 13:51:46 #info Cedric confirms Functest has its schedule for alignment with OpenStack already planned 13:52:28 #info dmcbride confirms that it is not completely installer centric, that there is cross-dependencies 13:52:39 #info dmcbride shares second proposal 13:53:36 #info reduced milestones: MS0 -> MS4 13:53:38 #info Cédric we leverage on our own SUT to verify Functest (gates and daily jobs) 13:54:19 #info Cédric no longer cross-dependencies from Functest point of view 13:54:37 #info MS0: start; MS1: release plan, MS2: preliminary review; MS3: final review; MS4: release and tag. 13:55:00 #info same schedule, MS0: Sep9, MS4: Dec 13. 13:55:51 #info Cédric OpenStack Train will be released in October. Is Stein still selected for I-Release? 13:56:52 (Sorry my mic seems broken) 13:57:36 #info frankbrockners suggests we decide whether or not to release in December first 13:58:45 #info dmcbride confirms 60%/40% in favour of performing the release 13:59:55 #info suggested vote text: "Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)? (-1,0,1)" 14:00:03 #vote: Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)? (-1,0,1) 14:00:23 #startvote Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)? (-1,0,1) 14:00:23 Begin voting on: Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)? Valid vote options are , -1, 0, 1, . 14:00:23 Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. 14:00:43 #vote 1 14:00:45 #vote 1 14:00:46 #vote +1 14:00:46 mbeierl: +1 is not a valid option. Valid options are , -1, 0, 1, . 14:00:51 #vote 1 14:00:53 #vote 1 14:00:55 #vote -1 14:01:03 #vote 1 14:01:05 #vote 1 14:01:08 #vote 1 14:01:09 #vote +1 14:01:09 xudan: +1 is not a valid option. Valid options are , -1, 0, 1, . 14:01:18 #info dmcbride proxy for acm 14:01:21 #vote 1 14:01:31 #vote 1 14:01:52 #info frankbrockners calls for any further votes 14:01:57 #endvote 14:01:57 Voted on "Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)?" Results are 14:01:57 1 (9): frankbrockners, xudan, pberberian, mbuil, ollivier, pkaralis, georgk, dmcbride, mbeierl 14:01:57 -1 (1): trevor_intel 14:03:00 #info frankbrockners asks if 'intent to participate' is the same milestone 14:03:21 #info dmcbride confirms that the production of a release plan is the same as the intent to participate 14:04:13 #endmeeting