==================================== #opnfv-meeting: OPNFV TSC 2019-08-27 ==================================== Meeting started by bh526r at 13:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2019/opnfv-meeting.2019-08-27-13.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (bh526r, 13:00:17) * Mark Beierl (mbeierl, 13:00:26) * Bin Hu (bh526r, 13:00:41) * Trevor Cooper (trevor_intel, 13:01:15) * Panagiotis Karalis (pkaralis, 13:01:59) * Frank Brockners (frankbrockners, 13:03:53) * Meeting kicks off with Antitrust policy review (mbeierl, 13:04:09) * Georg Kunz (georgk, 13:04:48) * Jack Morgan (jento, 13:05:28) * Al Morton (mbeierl, 13:06:27) * Fu Qiao (mbeierl, 13:07:16) * Fu Qiao (bh526r, 13:07:19) * Sridhar Rao (bh526r, 13:07:47) * Sunku Ranganath (bh526r, 13:08:16) * Dan Xu (bh526r, 13:08:47) * Approval of Previous Minutes (bh526r, 13:09:15) * AGREED: Minutes approved (bh526r, 13:09:24) * no comments on minutes (mbeierl, 13:09:27) * agenda bashing (mbeierl, 13:10:06) * Manuel Buil (mbuil, 13:10:43) * Heather Kirksey to send out email about PM updates (mbeierl, 13:11:57) * no chair report this week (mbeierl, 13:12:16) * suggested topics: FY20 budget introduction followed by Iruya release discussion (mbeierl, 13:13:37) * Marketing update will be deferred (mbeierl, 13:14:26) * Brandon Wick to send out update emails (mbeierl, 13:14:35) * Heather stated that MAC liaison from OPNFV is still required (mbeierl, 13:14:59) * Brandon confirms Bob Monkman will step into the MAC position (mbeierl, 13:16:00) * Franck asks if any TSC member missed the meeting yesterday? (mbeierl, 13:16:59) * Sunku confirms he did miss the meeting (mbeierl, 13:17:28) * frankbrockners asks for clarification on current allocation for comparison (mbeierl, 13:18:59) * 2020 Budget Process (bh526r, 13:19:16) * Arpit clarifies that the process is more about the directional guidelines vs. details (mbeierl, 13:19:48) * frankbrockners confirms that we would like to go over current allocation to see how we performed over the past year (mbeierl, 13:20:10) * Arpit requests OPNFV to identify higher priorities for community if we anticipate changes (mbeierl, 13:21:23) * Arpit asks if the everyone has reviewed spreadsheet (mbeierl, 13:21:49) * bh526r suggests we review it (mbeierl, 13:21:59) * Arpit informs that TSC input to the MAC is being taken into account (mbeierl, 13:22:48) * Kenny posted budget planning webinar recording: (bh526r, 13:23:31) * Marketing content FY20 is around messaging (mbeierl, 13:23:52) * LINK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GNzxzZBCRVI_Znp2zHYL6btVzNSSs38U/view?usp=sharing (mbeierl, 13:25:01) * Marketing is primarily LFN, whereas project release budget and messaging is joint with project (mbeierl, 13:26:21) * What does OPNFV want to highlight in the coming year? (mbeierl, 13:26:39) * Conversation moves to Developer Collaboration budget overview (mbeierl, 13:28:15) * Does OPNFV see a general hosting cost going up or down? (mbeierl, 13:28:48) * frankbrockners states hardware refresh / move to metal as a service had budget already set aside, and it is an open line item (mbeierl, 13:29:34) * frankbrockners confirms OPNFV needs to make some decisions regarding bare metal (mbeierl, 13:30:13) * Conversation oves to LF support, headcount related input (mbeierl, 13:30:57) * will there be significant changes in this area? (mbeierl, 13:31:11) * if the workload increases, why? (mbeierl, 13:31:24) * same with new hardware, will there be changes - along with why (mbeierl, 13:31:52) * frankbrockners confirms that the "TAC discretionary funding" was really project specific (ie: OPNFV) discretionary funding (mbeierl, 13:32:49) * Pause for discussion or QA (mbeierl, 13:34:51) * no questions (mbeierl, 13:35:17) * Arpit states this is a much more structured and simpler approach this year (mbeierl, 13:35:58) * Jim confirms we are not asking for numerical values (dollar figures). (mbeierl, 13:36:27) * Arpit confirms this is about asks (ie: we want a whitepaper) vs. allocation of dollars. (mbeierl, 13:36:59) * financial trade off (eg: we want 5 events, vs there is budget for only 3) is going to be managed by SPC (mbeierl, 13:38:26) * Arpit will work with Jim to provide OPNFV with actuals from FY19 (mbeierl, 13:40:30) * frankbrockners asks bh526r if thought has been given to how to run this process to reach conclusions within TSC (mbeierl, 13:41:18) * bh526r replies need fy19 numbers from Arpit so TSC can educate itself. (mbeierl, 13:41:55) * bh526r asks frankbrockners if he can take lead (mbeierl, 13:42:08) * frankbrockners suggests we need an interim meeting to cover discussions - must be done as a community, not as a single person perform the collection of ideas (mbeierl, 13:43:00) * bh526r asks if this same time slot on Wednesday is free? (mbeierl, 13:43:20) * frankbrockners asks about Thursday, but there as conflicts (mbeierl, 13:43:40) * frankbrockners and bh526r suggest Friday (mbeierl, 13:43:59) * frankbrockners proposes 6:00 am PDT on Friday (mbeierl, 13:44:24) * frankbrockners acknowledges this is late for APAC (mbeierl, 13:44:45) * frankbrockners asks all to give thought and review ahead of the Friday meeting (mbeierl, 13:44:58) * jmorgan1 asks if this is open to all or closed for TSC only (mbeierl, 13:45:10) * frankbrockners suggests the meeting be open for all (mbeierl, 13:45:22) * Arpit restates this is not about dollar figures, it is about resourcing, so it is not confidential (mbeierl, 13:46:00) * ACTION: Jim Baker to send out email for Friday meeting (mbeierl, 13:46:18) * jmorgan1 asks that Jim Baker also send the invite to tech-discuss (mbeierl, 13:46:37) * Iruya planning (mbeierl, 13:47:09) * dmcbride shares two possible proposals (mbeierl, 13:47:30) * dmcbride first shows traditional release process, compressed for remaining time in year, and showing major holidays and events (mbeierl, 13:48:04) * proposed schedule: MS0: Sept 9 -> MS9: Dec 13. (mbeierl, 13:48:42) * mbeierl asks if MS2 is relevant for other projects such as functest - does MS2 apply beyond installers (mbeierl, 13:51:07) * Cedric confirms Functest has its schedule for alignment with OpenStack already planned (mbeierl, 13:51:46) * dmcbride confirms that it is not completely installer centric, that there is cross-dependencies (mbeierl, 13:52:28) * dmcbride shares second proposal (mbeierl, 13:52:39) * reduced milestones: MS0 -> MS4 (mbeierl, 13:53:36) * Cédric we leverage on our own SUT to verify Functest (gates and daily jobs) (ollivier, 13:53:38) * Cédric no longer cross-dependencies from Functest point of view (ollivier, 13:54:19) * MS0: start; MS1: release plan, MS2: preliminary review; MS3: final review; MS4: release and tag. (mbeierl, 13:54:37) * same schedule, MS0: Sep9, MS4: Dec 13. (mbeierl, 13:55:00) * Cédric OpenStack Train will be released in October. Is Stein still selected for I-Release? (ollivier, 13:55:51) * frankbrockners suggests we decide whether or not to release in December first (mbeierl, 13:57:36) * dmcbride confirms 60%/40% in favour of performing the release (mbeierl, 13:58:45) * suggested vote text: "Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)? (-1,0,1)" (mbeierl, 13:59:55) * dmcbride proxy for acm (dmcbride, 14:01:18) * frankbrockners calls for any further votes (mbeierl, 14:01:52) * VOTE: Voted on "Should Iruya follow the regular release cadence (i.e. Iruya to be released this year)?" Results are, 1: 9, -1: 1 (mbeierl, 14:01:57) * frankbrockners asks if 'intent to participate' is the same milestone (mbeierl, 14:03:00) * dmcbride confirms that the production of a release plan is the same as the intent to participate (mbeierl, 14:03:21) Meeting ended at 14:04:13 UTC. 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