12:58:27 #startmeeting OPNFV TSC 2019-09-03 12:58:27 Meeting started Tue Sep 3 12:58:27 2019 UTC. The chair is mbeierl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:58:27 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 12:58:27 The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_tsc_2019_09_03' 12:58:38 #chair bh526r 12:58:38 Current chairs: bh526r mbeierl 12:59:08 #chair LFNjbaker 12:59:08 Current chairs: LFNjbaker bh526r mbeierl 13:00:17 #Topic Roll Call 13:00:25 #info Bin Hu 13:00:31 #info Mark Beierl 13:00:37 #info Sofia Wallin (proxy for Georg) 13:00:42 #info Jack Morgan 13:01:28 Still waiting on PM update sent to community from Aug. 6th meeting 13:01:48 #info Fu Qiao 13:02:21 #info Parker Berberian 13:02:34 #info Sridhar Rao 13:03:03 #info fuqiao 13:03:21 #info Reminder of Antitrust Policy Notice: https://r.lfnetworking.org/Antitrust%20Slide.pdf 13:03:34 #info Frank Brockners 13:04:16 #info Dan Xu 13:05:21 #Topic Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes 13:05:27 #info call for comments 13:05:34 #info bh526r proposes approval 13:05:39 #info minutes approved 13:05:59 #Topic Agenda Bashing 13:06:24 #info special TSC meeting August 30 with 5 members 13:06:51 #info time ran out, so Trevor Cooper recommended using this meeting to finish the budget review 13:07:33 #info call for changes to this recommendation? 13:07:55 #info Jack Morgan asks if there are notes for review 13:08:25 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/2020+planning+-+Community+Input 13:08:52 #agreed to proceed with budget discussion 13:09:11 #Topic Review of OPNFV FY20 Budget 13:09:42 #info Jim notes that the infra budget was under discussion and should pick up there 13:09:57 #info Jim also requests ranking be done 13:10:29 #info Trevor Bramwelt was not present Aug 30, but is familiar will all work being done 13:10:38 #undo 13:10:38 Removing item from minutes: 13:10:54 #info Sunku Ranganath 13:10:59 #info Trevor Bramwel (bramwelt) was not present Aug 30, but is familiar will all work being done 13:11:33 #info Jack asks was lab is being refreshed 13:12:05 #info frankbrockners confirms part of that is the Portland lab - to see if we need new boxes, or hosted metal as a service 13:12:26 #info conversation was started a while back, but lost steam this past spring 13:12:42 #info the budget line item is independent of FY2020 13:13:25 #info frankbrockners notes the budget from FY19 does not 'expire', but we cannot ask for the same amount again if we have not used the existing amount 13:14:09 #info bh526r details breakdown of infrastructure budget 13:14:46 #info LaaS budget has moved from OPNFV to LFN 13:15:12 #info Aug 30 call started with discussion of priorities 13:15:34 #info a) see what we can do to help and grow the community 13:15:44 #info b) to see what we can do to lower the barrier to entry 13:16:10 #info discussion of sandbox - for example K8s has minikube, so what would an OPNFV version look like 13:16:18 #info which ties into CNTT 13:16:38 #info to have dev environment where things look like a mini CNTT and deploy all OPNFV tooling 13:16:44 #info could be hosted or even on a laptop 13:17:05 #info c) evolve the tooling to have a lower barrier for developers 13:17:58 #info how to convey this sandbox and lower barrier to entry to something that finance can use 13:19:15 #info Jack asks if we need a plan to finish FY19 budget 13:19:38 #info frankbrockners states that we focus on FY20 direction, but use the FY19 money if needed 13:19:56 #info Jack suggests FY19 budget gets handed over to infra working group 13:20:17 #info have infra group report back to TSC on Portland and other labs 13:21:12 #info frankbrockners states there are no CNTT requirements yet, so it would be a guess as to what is needed 13:21:28 #info Jack suggests we use what we have now as a rough framework for now 13:21:46 #info frankbrockners suggests that we do the same as what we did when starting OPNFV 13:22:06 #info it was 6 servers, but opens the question - is that enough for CNTT? We do not know 13:22:45 #info Jonathon (?) from CNTT asks if there is a sample of sizing 13:23:01 #info Jack replies with information about Pharos specification 13:23:25 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/Pharos 13:25:14 #info bh526r asks if Developer Design Forum / Plugfest should be first priority 13:25:37 #info frankbrockners asks how many of each - we need to quantify 13:25:50 #info bh526r suggests 2 plugfests and 2 or 4 meetups? 13:26:38 #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/pharos 13:27:06 thanks, jento. Grabbed the wrong link in my attempt to multi task too much 13:29:04 #info 8 meetups - 3 in Portland 13:30:21 #info Jack will work with bramwelt and OPNFV infra group to get more information on hardware infra 13:30:41 #info jento confirms that relates to the FY19 budget 13:31:17 #info frankbrockners asks CNTT reps if there is an idea of what CNTT development environment would look like 13:31:34 #info CNTT confirms it is OpenStack based, so 3 controllers, 5-6 compute ? 13:31:43 #info spine-leaf based 13:31:53 #info frankbrockners asks if it must be bare metal 13:32:04 #info CNTT confirms performance must be bare metal based 13:32:25 #info CNTT hopes after ONS they will have the info 13:32:37 #info frankbrockners confirms that is too late for this budget process 13:32:50 #info CNTT (Mark) suggests give a rough estimate anyway 13:33:58 #info frankbrockners suggests come up with a really rough guideline - walked through OPNFV history of how we arrived at 6 nodes to do real traffic testing 13:34:46 #info CNTT suggests 2 compute is not enough 13:36:25 #info frankbrockners asks if OPNFV infra group can check to see if this hardware spec is going to be sustainable for a few years with our upcoming plan 13:39:14 #info CNTT could become an additional community lab like other projects have done 13:39:38 #info CNTT confirms that they have no community labs 13:40:02 #info CNTT suggests that as labs are acquired, they could become community labs 13:40:13 #info ^ Mark S 13:41:40 #info frankbrockners notes that tooling projects are independent enough that they can continue to operate 13:42:13 #info frankbrockners the feature projects depend on installers and that hardware is not fully understood yet 13:48:29 #info jento suggests adding 30% to last year's DDF/Plugfest budget to accommodate increased CNTT engagement 13:50:13 #info Mark S suggests that CNTT should wrap up eventually and just be part of OPNFV, so marketing should be considered in that 13:51:06 #info frankbrockners points out that we should focus on developer engagement or CNTT/etc will not flourish and become successful 13:51:30 #info frankbrockners repeats focus should be on enabling the deveoper 13:51:51 #info what additional things can we do from a community to enable thios? 13:54:20 #info jento suggests what we need to do by Monday 13:54:31 #info 1) info from infra WG 13:55:23 #info 2) increase hardware infra 13:56:16 #info 3) DDF/Plugfest increase 13:56:32 #info TSC discretionary budget stays the same 13:57:44 #info Mark S suggests that CNTT is going to drive new work in the 3rd Party Consulting area (reports, whitepapers, etc) 13:57:58 #info Marketing material will increase with CNTT 14:01:21 #info jento asks about MAC and bh526r, frankbrockners confirmed Bob Monkman is our rep 14:01:38 #Topic AoB 14:02:05 #Topic call for vote on proposal 14:02:15 #info jento asks for email vote 14:02:30 #info frankbrockners suggests #agree instead as this is just a first round 14:02:59 #info Does the TSC agree to the draft of the budget? 14:03:27 #agree The TSC agrees to the draft of the budget: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/2020+planning+-+Community+Input 14:03:37 #info TSC approves the budget 14:04:24 #info v. 11 of the page linked above, published Sep 03, 2019 10:01 EDT 14:05:19 #info Proposed email vote for Iruya 14:05:28 * frankbrockners needs to run - l8r 14:05:38 #agree TSC will vote by email. 14:05:56 #Topic AoB 14:06:00 #endmeeting