==================================== #opnfv-meeting: OPNFV TSC 2019-09-03 ==================================== Meeting started by mbeierl at 12:58:27 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-meeting/2019/opnfv-meeting.2019-09-03-12.58.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (mbeierl, 13:00:17) * Bin Hu (bh526r, 13:00:25) * Mark Beierl (mbeierl, 13:00:31) * Sofia Wallin (proxy for Georg) (sofiawallin, 13:00:37) * Jack Morgan (jento, 13:00:42) * Fu Qiao (bh526r, 13:01:48) * Parker Berberian (bh526r, 13:02:21) * Sridhar Rao (SRao, 13:02:34) * fuqiao (fuqiao, 13:03:03) * Reminder of Antitrust Policy Notice: https://r.lfnetworking.org/Antitrust%20Slide.pdf (mbeierl, 13:03:21) * Frank Brockners (frankbrockners, 13:03:34) * Dan Xu (bh526r, 13:04:16) * Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes (mbeierl, 13:05:21) * call for comments (mbeierl, 13:05:27) * bh526r proposes approval (mbeierl, 13:05:34) * minutes approved (mbeierl, 13:05:39) * Agenda Bashing (mbeierl, 13:05:59) * special TSC meeting August 30 with 5 members (mbeierl, 13:06:24) * time ran out, so Trevor Cooper recommended using this meeting to finish the budget review (mbeierl, 13:06:51) * call for changes to this recommendation? (mbeierl, 13:07:33) * Jack Morgan asks if there are notes for review (mbeierl, 13:07:55) * LINK: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/2020+planning+-+Community+Input (mbeierl, 13:08:25) * AGREED: to proceed with budget discussion (mbeierl, 13:08:52) * Review of OPNFV FY20 Budget (mbeierl, 13:09:11) * Jim notes that the infra budget was under discussion and should pick up there (mbeierl, 13:09:42) * Jim also requests ranking be done (mbeierl, 13:09:57) * Sunku Ranganath (bh526r, 13:10:54) * Trevor Bramwel (bramwelt) was not present Aug 30, but is familiar will all work being done (mbeierl, 13:10:59) * Jack asks was lab is being refreshed (mbeierl, 13:11:33) * frankbrockners confirms part of that is the Portland lab - to see if we need new boxes, or hosted metal as a service (mbeierl, 13:12:05) * conversation was started a while back, but lost steam this past spring (mbeierl, 13:12:26) * the budget line item is independent of FY2020 (mbeierl, 13:12:42) * frankbrockners notes the budget from FY19 does not 'expire', but we cannot ask for the same amount again if we have not used the existing amount (mbeierl, 13:13:25) * bh526r details breakdown of infrastructure budget (mbeierl, 13:14:09) * LaaS budget has moved from OPNFV to LFN (mbeierl, 13:14:46) * Aug 30 call started with discussion of priorities (mbeierl, 13:15:12) * a) see what we can do to help and grow the community (mbeierl, 13:15:34) * b) to see what we can do to lower the barrier to entry (mbeierl, 13:15:44) * discussion of sandbox - for example K8s has minikube, so what would an OPNFV version look like (mbeierl, 13:16:10) * which ties into CNTT (mbeierl, 13:16:18) * to have dev environment where things look like a mini CNTT and deploy all OPNFV tooling (mbeierl, 13:16:38) * could be hosted or even on a laptop (mbeierl, 13:16:44) * c) evolve the tooling to have a lower barrier for developers (mbeierl, 13:17:05) * how to convey this sandbox and lower barrier to entry to something that finance can use (mbeierl, 13:17:58) * Jack asks if we need a plan to finish FY19 budget (mbeierl, 13:19:15) * frankbrockners states that we focus on FY20 direction, but use the FY19 money if needed (mbeierl, 13:19:38) * Jack suggests FY19 budget gets handed over to infra working group (mbeierl, 13:19:56) * have infra group report back to TSC on Portland and other labs (mbeierl, 13:20:17) * frankbrockners states there are no CNTT requirements yet, so it would be a guess as to what is needed (mbeierl, 13:21:12) * Jack suggests we use what we have now as a rough framework for now (mbeierl, 13:21:28) * frankbrockners suggests that we do the same as what we did when starting OPNFV (mbeierl, 13:21:46) * it was 6 servers, but opens the question - is that enough for CNTT? We do not know (mbeierl, 13:22:06) * Jonathon (?) from CNTT asks if there is a sample of sizing (mbeierl, 13:22:45) * Jack replies with information about Pharos specification (mbeierl, 13:23:01) * LINK: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/Pharos (mbeierl, 13:23:25) * bh526r asks if Developer Design Forum / Plugfest should be first priority (mbeierl, 13:25:14) * frankbrockners asks how many of each - we need to quantify (mbeierl, 13:25:37) * bh526r suggests 2 plugfests and 2 or 4 meetups? (mbeierl, 13:25:50) * LINK: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/pharos (jento, 13:26:38) * 8 meetups - 3 in Portland (mbeierl, 13:29:04) * Jack will work with bramwelt and OPNFV infra group to get more information on hardware infra (mbeierl, 13:30:21) * jento confirms that relates to the FY19 budget (mbeierl, 13:30:41) * frankbrockners asks CNTT reps if there is an idea of what CNTT development environment would look like (mbeierl, 13:31:17) * CNTT confirms it is OpenStack based, so 3 controllers, 5-6 compute ? (mbeierl, 13:31:34) * spine-leaf based (mbeierl, 13:31:43) * frankbrockners asks if it must be bare metal (mbeierl, 13:31:53) * CNTT confirms performance must be bare metal based (mbeierl, 13:32:04) * CNTT hopes after ONS they will have the info (mbeierl, 13:32:25) * frankbrockners confirms that is too late for this budget process (mbeierl, 13:32:37) * CNTT (Mark) suggests give a rough estimate anyway (mbeierl, 13:32:50) * frankbrockners suggests come up with a really rough guideline - walked through OPNFV history of how we arrived at 6 nodes to do real traffic testing (mbeierl, 13:33:58) * CNTT suggests 2 compute is not enough (mbeierl, 13:34:46) * frankbrockners asks if OPNFV infra group can check to see if this hardware spec is going to be sustainable for a few years with our upcoming plan (mbeierl, 13:36:25) * CNTT could become an additional community lab like other projects have done (mbeierl, 13:39:14) * CNTT confirms that they have no community labs (mbeierl, 13:39:38) * CNTT suggests that as labs are acquired, they could become community labs (mbeierl, 13:40:02) * ^ Mark S (mbeierl, 13:40:13) * frankbrockners notes that tooling projects are independent enough that they can continue to operate (mbeierl, 13:41:40) * frankbrockners the feature projects depend on installers and that hardware is not fully understood yet (mbeierl, 13:42:13) * jento suggests adding 30% to last year's DDF/Plugfest budget to accommodate increased CNTT engagement (mbeierl, 13:48:29) * Mark S suggests that CNTT should wrap up eventually and just be part of OPNFV, so marketing should be considered in that (mbeierl, 13:50:13) * frankbrockners points out that we should focus on developer engagement or CNTT/etc will not flourish and become successful (mbeierl, 13:51:06) * frankbrockners repeats focus should be on enabling the deveoper (mbeierl, 13:51:30) * what additional things can we do from a community to enable thios? (mbeierl, 13:51:51) * jento suggests what we need to do by Monday (mbeierl, 13:54:20) * 1) info from infra WG (mbeierl, 13:54:31) * 2) increase hardware infra (mbeierl, 13:55:23) * 3) DDF/Plugfest increase (mbeierl, 13:56:16) * TSC discretionary budget stays the same (mbeierl, 13:56:32) * Mark S suggests that CNTT is going to drive new work in the 3rd Party Consulting area (reports, whitepapers, etc) (mbeierl, 13:57:44) * Marketing material will increase with CNTT (mbeierl, 13:57:58) * jento asks about MAC and bh526r, frankbrockners confirmed Bob Monkman is our rep (mbeierl, 14:01:21) * AoB (mbeierl, 14:01:38) * call for vote on proposal (mbeierl, 14:02:05) * jento asks for email vote (mbeierl, 14:02:15) * frankbrockners suggests #agree instead as this is just a first round (mbeierl, 14:02:30) * Does the TSC agree to the draft of the budget? (mbeierl, 14:02:59) * AGREED: The TSC agrees to the draft of the budget: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/meetings/2020+planning+-+Community+Input (mbeierl, 14:03:27) * TSC approves the budget (mbeierl, 14:03:37) * v. 11 of the page linked above, published Sep 03, 2019 10:01 EDT (mbeierl, 14:04:24) * Proposed email vote for Iruya (mbeierl, 14:05:19) * AGREED: TSC will vote by email. (mbeierl, 14:05:38) * AoB (mbeierl, 14:05:56) Meeting ended at 14:06:00 UTC. People present (lines said) --------------------------- * mbeierl (99) * collabot` (6) * bh526r (5) * jento (3) * frankbrockners (2) * fuqiao (1) * SRao (1) * sofiawallin (1) * LFNjbaker (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4