15:03:49 <trevor_intel_> #startmeeting OPNFV Infra Working Group
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15:04:18 <jmorgan1> meeting in here?
15:04:31 <jmorgan1> not #opnfv-meetings?
15:05:13 <ChrisPriceAB> goto link?
15:05:19 <DanSmithEricsson> one sec
15:05:31 <DanSmithEricsson> not GTM
15:05:34 <DanSmithEricsson> we are on skype
15:05:44 <DanSmithEricsson> i can send the meeting link CHris
15:05:59 <ChrisPriceAB> oh the original one still?  cool think I have it
15:06:11 <ChrisPriceAB> https://meet.intel.com/trevor.cooper/FJJ3N3RQ  ??
15:06:27 <DanSmithEricsson> yes
15:06:28 <jmorgan1> https://meet.intel.com/trevor.cooper/FJJ3N3RQ
15:06:28 <DanSmithEricsson> ack
15:06:30 <jmorgan1> yes
15:06:55 <aricg> link to gtm?
15:06:58 <DanSmithEricsson> +1(916)356-2663 (or your local bridge access #) Choose bridge 5.
15:07:06 <DanSmithEricsson> or https://meet.intel.com/trevor.cooper/FJJ3N3RQ
15:07:06 <ChrisPriceAB> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/Infra+Working+Group current agenda
15:07:10 <DanSmithEricsson> lync/skype
15:07:18 <ChrisPriceAB> thanks dan
15:07:38 <DanSmithEricsson> find local number: https://dial.intel.com/
15:07:48 <fdegir> Up to date agenda is on trevor_intel1 's mail
15:08:09 <fdegir> some extra stuff like milestone regarding infra stuff etc
15:08:21 * ChrisPriceAB applauds warmly
15:08:41 <ChrisPriceAB> not for the second point, for Jack...
15:09:39 <aricg> conference id?
15:10:06 <ChrisPriceAB> aricg the lync link above.  https://meet.intel.com/trevor.cooper/FJJ3N3RQ
15:10:06 <DanSmithEricsson> Conference ID: 532051
15:10:12 <ChrisPriceAB> still not on goto
15:10:14 <DanSmithEricsson> nah. dial in id is diff.
15:10:19 <ChrisPriceAB> ah ok
15:10:51 <ChrisPriceAB> I will have to drop in a minute or two, I can't stay on lync and there is no dial in from europe...
15:12:26 <fdegir> ChrisPriceAB: skype app works fine
15:15:10 <trevor_intel_> #info intern projects https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DEV/Intern-projects-page
15:15:49 <trevor_intel_> #info Dan to add project proposal for intern on dashboards / booking tools
15:18:39 <trevor_intel_> #topic 	- Pharos milestone and POD allocation
15:20:17 <trevor_intel_> #info Projects need alternative configurations for development e.g. multisite
15:24:12 <dmcbride> #info The issue that came up in the Release meeting yesterday was whether we have the functional capability and the capacity to support all test requirements for Colorado
15:25:06 <dmcbride> #info This is related to MS5 "Test infrastructure updates completed" on the schedule.
15:25:21 <dmcbride> #info we need a way to verify this milestone.
15:25:23 <jmorgan1> dmcbride: different issue
15:25:39 <fdegir> can we have these type of requests go to jira
15:25:51 <fdegir> and discussed towards to the wnd of the meeting in aobä
15:25:53 <fdegir> aob
15:25:54 <jmorgan1> fdegir: tthey are
15:26:13 <jmorgan1> fdegir: feature project needs to drive jira request to be completed
15:26:24 <fdegir> then again we can take the discussion towards the end
15:26:47 <jmorgan1> 2nd issue is change to pharos spec process for feature projects
15:26:51 <fdegir> we have the overall milestone and the other stuff to discusswhich impact whole community
15:27:24 <trevor_intel_> fdegir: ok
15:27:46 <jmorgan1> yes, having resources to meet milestones during releases dissusion is needed
15:28:18 <trevor_intel_> fdegir: It does highlight a general problem which is expectations that projects have on infra. I think there is a mismatch
15:28:40 <jmorgan1> good point
15:28:43 <fdegir> I agree to that
15:29:01 <fdegir> but my point is, this type of discussions can go into its own heading in meeting
15:29:28 <trozet> hi guys.  I'm on the call, but just wondering how we can get another 32GB stick in the LF POD1 jumphost
15:30:06 <fdegir> like "Project Infra Requests"
15:30:52 <fdegir> and we try to allocate maybe 10 minutes minimum weekly
15:31:05 <fdegir> given that all the discussions took on jira or other mediums
15:34:18 <jmorgan1> fdegir: yes, its a good point - we should be doing jira scrubbing in this meeting weekly.
15:35:00 <DanSmithEricsson> yes.. move on
15:36:17 <trevor_intel_> #info Still need a Pharos change process
15:38:02 <jmorgan1> trozet: i suggest submitting a jira request for lf pod1 to add more memory
15:38:23 <trozet> jmorgan1: aricg said it has to be approved by the board :)
15:39:29 <fdegir> jmorgan1: when money needs to be spent, it goes to the board
15:39:48 <fdegir> jmorgan1: for opnfv project hw
15:44:22 <trozet> jmorgan1: https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/PHAROS-186
15:45:17 <trozet> fdegir: cant we just get some allotment of $ per quarter for minor hardware equipement
15:45:28 <trozet> fdegir: seems kind of ridiculous to go to the board for a stick of ram...
15:45:36 <fdegir> trozet: agree with you
15:45:55 <trozet> ChrisPriceAB:^^
15:45:59 <fdegir> trozet: this could be a proposal for budget handling with an upper limit like you say
15:46:06 <DanSmithEricsson> hey tim.. for me, i think you should get your Ram right away.. i dont think you shoudl wait or the infra group
15:46:20 <fdegir> DanSmithEricsson: it is not about if he should get or not
15:46:29 <DanSmithEricsson> i think that the "update" to the requiremenst of the jumnpstat is a documentation update for C_releaes for us
15:46:55 <mbeierl> https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/Test+Lab+Reservation+Calendars
15:46:55 <DanSmithEricsson> and yes.. agree 100% that the aquisition of the RAM (buying it) shouldnt require exec approcal
15:47:01 <trozet> DanSmithEricsson: cool
15:47:10 <trozet> we just got 132GiB on intel pod 7
15:47:16 <trozet> so im just using that for now for virtual deployments
15:47:18 <DanSmithEricsson> approval - and we need to have a 'growtg forecast' allotement provided on a per year basis perhaps?
15:47:27 <trozet> i got to run guys, i filed the JIRA, thanks for discussing
15:47:36 <DanSmithEricsson> my new pod (dec) all has 128 or 256
15:47:41 <DanSmithEricsson> thanks Tim -
15:47:47 <fdegir> DanSmithEricsson: when opnfv money needs to be spent, it requires board approval
15:48:00 <fdegir> having lag in my irc
15:48:00 <fdegir> client
15:48:07 <jose_lausuch> #link http://52.11.159.93/opnfv-ci-dashboard/index.php
15:54:53 <trevor_intel_> I have lost audio
15:59:24 <fdegir> CI POD booking has lower priority for the timebeing
15:59:43 <fdegir> essentially they should not be bookable even by PTLs
16:02:01 <jose_lausuch> fdegir: ok, let's start with booking dev pods only
16:02:18 <fdegir> yep
16:03:08 <trevor_intel_> #topic Infra Priorities
16:03:30 <trevor_intel_> 1.	Lab resource booking and usage dashboard (resource management)
16:03:30 <trevor_intel_> 
16:03:30 <trevor_intel_> 2.	Pharos compliance verification/validation
16:03:30 <trevor_intel_> •	Intern project starting
16:03:30 <trevor_intel_> •	Future phase … extend to verifying/validating POD setup for automatic configuration of our PODs.
16:03:30 <trevor_intel_> 
16:03:31 <trevor_intel_> 3.	Alignment of labs/pods/installer configurations for automatic POD configuration. One way of specifying POD, network and installer configurations so we can utilize these configurations to do automatic configuration.
16:03:32 <trevor_intel_> 
16:03:32 <trevor_intel_> 4.	LaaS (or virtual environments)
16:03:32 <trevor_intel_> •	Our CI can't support the community anymore if we keep on running stuff on our limited no of bare metal CI PODs.
16:03:32 <trevor_intel_> •	Apart from this, the development work can be a lot easier if we have the development environments made homogenous.
16:03:33 <trevor_intel_> 
16:03:33 <trevor_intel_> 5.	Jenkins issues with permissions, scheduling, sandbox type of activities and so on.
16:03:34 <trevor_intel_> 
16:03:49 <jmorgan1> agend ahere: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/Infra+Working+Group
16:07:45 <trevor_intel_> #info Dan will setup a meeting with David McBride re. resource planning/allocation
16:12:59 <trevor_intel_> #info Jack to start an Etherpad to capture ideas for dynamic allocation of PODs
16:15:51 <trevor_intel_> #info Dan to update Wiki page on vision and objectives
16:16:56 <fdegir> DanSmithEricsson: jmorgan1: we have this section on infra space
16:17:25 <fdegir> DanSmithEricsson: jmorgan1: under that we have subpages focusing on different infra parts
16:17:31 <fdegir> DanSmithEricsson: jmorgan1: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/Infra+Improvement+Activities
16:17:54 <fdegir> DanSmithEricsson: jmorgan1: which gives details regarding what improvements are planned/ongoing, referring back to jira
16:18:03 <trevor_intel_> #endmeeting