==================================== #opnfv-release: C-release milestones ==================================== Meeting started by debrascott at 15:01:55 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/opnfv-release/2016/opnfv-release.2016-01-25-15.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/977976589 (debrascott, 15:02:55) * what went well/and not well, short list of where improvements need to be made (debrascott, 15:05:30) * Fatih Degirmenci (fdegir, 15:06:14) * LINK: https://wiki.opnfv.org/releases/brahmaputra/release_plan (debrascott, 15:06:57) * need to start earlier with project definition (whose participating) (debrascott, 15:07:51) * milestones A & B were to close together (debrascott, 15:09:08) * some dependencies were unclear early on and needed to be clarified to all projects earlier (debrascott, 15:11:45) * example: projects did not understand the need to create installer plugins until quite late (debrascott, 15:12:18) * in some cases these were not a lack of planning but lack of visibility to new requirements with regard to supporting installation of new features. (debrascott, 15:13:49) * tool chain & installer & pod processes were being developed at same time that feature projects needed to understand how to work with them (debrascott, 15:15:59) * should infrastructure & tool chain be run through a separate release process from feature integration & release work? (debrascott, 15:18:01) * CI toolchain is already separate from the release (debrascott, 15:20:03) * tool chain can be used because they are tagged by release but they are not part of the release itself (debrascott, 15:21:35) * milestone C, need more detailed and better checklists (debrascott, 15:23:23) * example when do the plugins have to be done (debrascott, 15:23:50) * need to allow more time in backend for testing and integration (debrascott, 15:24:15) * need earlier understanding of integration, deploy & test so things like scenario definition needs to be earlier (debrascott, 15:25:34) * writing of code can be done in parallel or even after these definitions are completed (debrascott, 15:26:55) * need to look after C-release regarding how it is working to have pre-upstreamed code included (debrascott, 15:28:25) * need to enable more plugins, even for things that are not oss (debrascott, 15:28:53) * make sure we always use reproducable upstream code (debrascott, 15:31:53) * challenge aligning to upstream project development cycle (debrascott, 15:33:06) * need to pick baselines early (debrascott, 15:33:25) * Trevor Cooper (trevor_intel, 15:34:34) * need to define scenarios much earlier (debrascott, 15:41:05) * identify which installler you intend to operate with (debrascott, 15:42:46) * have plugin for the installer ready by D: emphasise it (debrascott, 15:43:53) * need checklists for milestones to be clearer (debrascott, 15:44:41) * pharos lab resources identified at milestone C (debrascott, 15:47:10) * need stable environments available for feature projects to use for dev, test, & integration work (debrascott, 15:48:09) * need installers supporting consistent model (debrascott, 15:48:24) * latest and stable need to be supported by projects so we know which branch that installers really work, (debrascott, 15:50:19) * use “promotion” process to move installer stable up to where other projects use it knowing it is reliable (debrascott, 15:51:37) * : separate checklists for each type of project earlier, notably intstallers are very different (debrascott, 15:53:18) * what do we need to have functioning before freezing code? (debrascott, 15:56:56) * keep this at scenario level (debrascott, 15:57:05) * project box based on scenarios (debrascott, 15:58:00) * need to keep quality on master (today’s C relase) (debrascott, 15:59:41) * get CI process defined/communicated better (debrascott, 16:01:24) * ACTION: Chris & Debra to draft proposal on C release criteria (debrascott, 16:01:55) * ACTION: Debra to set next meeting (debrascott, 16:02:17) Meeting ended at 16:02:31 UTC. People present (lines said) --------------------------- * debrascott (44) * ChrisPriceAB (15) * fdegir (10) * collabot (3) * trevor_intel (1) * edgarstp (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4