03:24:54 <dmcbride> #startmeeting OPNFV release (APAC) 03:24:54 <collabot> Meeting started Wed Feb 8 03:24:54 2017 UTC. The chair is dmcbride. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:24:54 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 03:24:54 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'opnfv_release__apac_' 03:25:10 <dmcbride> #topic 03:25:14 <dmcbride> #undo 03:25:14 <collabot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x2266c90> 03:25:19 <dmcbride> #topic roll call 03:25:27 <dmcbride> #info David McBride 03:25:27 <huzhj> #info Zhijiang 03:26:19 <dmcbride> hello Zhijiang! 03:26:34 <huzhj> Hi David 03:26:54 <huzhj> What is the time on your watch? 03:27:09 <dmcbride> 7:27 p.m. PST 03:27:23 <dmcbride> how about you? 03:27:35 <huzhj> 11:27 a.m. 03:27:49 <dmcbride> does this time work for you? 03:27:54 <joehuang> #info joehuang 03:27:58 <huzhj> Little bit late for you 03:28:01 <joehuang> it's ok for me 03:28:10 <huzhj> Yes, thanks 03:29:21 <fuqiao> #fuqiao 03:31:16 <dmcbride> ok - let's get started 03:31:51 <dmcbride> thanks for joining this first APAC OPNFV release meeting 03:32:02 <kubi001> #info kubi(yardstick) 03:32:22 <dmcbride> I wanted to start by just understanding if the time and format are useful to this group 03:32:31 <dmcbride> #topic meeting time and format 03:33:00 <dmcbride> Is this a good time to meet? 03:33:04 <dmcbride> comments? 03:33:07 <joehuang> yes 03:33:13 <fuqiao> Ok 03:33:13 <kubi001> dmcbride: yes, It 's good to me 03:33:20 <huzhj> yes 03:33:22 <fuqiao> Ok for me~ 03:33:26 <dmcbride> ok - good to hear 03:33:37 <dmcbride> it was a bit of guess work on my part 03:33:48 <dmcbride> how about the frequency? 03:33:57 <joehuang> where are you based 03:34:00 <dmcbride> current plan is to have this meeting every other week 03:34:13 <joehuang> sounds great 03:34:23 <dmcbride> @joehuang I am in Seattle 03:34:23 <collabot> dmcbride: Error: "joehuang" is not a valid command. 03:34:53 <dmcbride> joehuang: I am in Seattle 03:35:20 <joehuang> Nice place, close to Vancouver 03:35:23 <dmcbride> Northwestern part of the United States for those who are not familiar with the location of the city 03:35:26 <fuqiao> Could be half an hour earlier if this is too late for you.@dmcbride 03:35:49 <yuyang_gabriel> #info yuyang_gabriel 03:35:52 <joehuang> how long the meeting will last? half hour or one hour 03:35:57 <dmcbride> joehuang: true - Vancouver is about a 4 hour drive from Seattle 03:36:40 <dmcbride> joehuang: current plan is for 30 minutes; however, I am open to extending it to an hour, or more if the team would like 03:37:06 <dmcbride> joehuang: how do you feel about 30 minutes? Should it be an hour? 03:37:30 <joehuang> 30min may be enough, 03:37:31 <dmcbride> #info general agreement on time and frequency of APAC OPNFV release meeting 03:37:40 <joehuang> can be prolong if more topics as needed 03:37:48 <dmcbride> any other thoughts? 03:37:57 <yuyang_gabriel> agree 03:38:09 <kubi001> I prefer to 30 minutes 03:38:28 <dmcbride> fuqiao: thank you, but I pick my son up from his piano lesson at 7, so I would be perpetually late :) 03:38:41 <dmcbride> so, 7:30 works for me 03:38:56 <fuqiao> Ok. 03:39:09 <dmcbride> #info general agreement on 30 minute meeting with option to extend, if necessary 03:40:07 <dmcbride> as we proceed, if anyone thinks that we should adjust the time, duration, or frequency, please don't hesitate to let me know 03:40:16 <dmcbride> I will try to be as accommodating as possible 03:40:32 <chigang> #info Justin 03:40:44 <dmcbride> welcome chigang 03:40:58 <chigang> dmcbride: hi David 03:41:15 <dmcbride> ok - let's dive into the schedule 03:41:39 <dmcbride> #topic Milestone 5 - feature freeze and scenario integration 03:41:59 <dmcbride> how does everyone feel about MS5? 03:42:06 <dmcbride> this has been a challenge for many projects 03:42:19 <zhipengh> dmcbride could we still merge patches ? 03:42:39 <dmcbride> I know that it came at an awkward time, just before New Year celebration and vacations 03:43:43 <chigang> dmcbride: it is in the process of stabilization for us 03:44:23 <kubi001> dmcbride: does the MS5 applied to testing projects? do we need to provide the CI link? 03:45:01 <dmcbride> #info kubi001 asks whether MS5 applies to testing projects 03:45:30 <dmcbride> kubi001: MS5 applies to any project that uses one or more scenarios to deploy and/or test 03:45:31 <kubi001> dmcbride: I noticed that functest also didn't fill into the table ,but storperf and qtip did 03:45:55 <dmcbride> kubi001: yes - see my previous response 03:46:20 <dmcbride> admittedly, the evaluation and application of the criteria is not perfect 03:46:51 <dmcbride> during the release call today, the point was made that our current set of milestones apply primarily to feature projects 03:47:25 <joehuang> the CI for multisite project after refactoring is not stable yet, 03:47:31 <chigang> zhipengh: I think patches only for bugfix can be merged 03:47:31 <joehuang> #link https://build.opnfv.org/ci/view/multisite/builds 03:47:43 <dmcbride> so, I am going to try to establish another set of milestones for test projects 03:47:43 <dmcbride> for the "E" release 03:47:44 <joehuang> need time to make it stable 03:48:05 <dmcbride> by the way, has everyone had a chance to see the milestone tracking page? 03:48:10 <dmcbride> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/SWREL/Milestone+Compliance+for+Danube 03:48:15 <kubi001> dmcbride: sounds good 03:49:02 <dmcbride> kubi001: I will be looking for input and suggestions from you, Jose, and others about what makes sense for milestones for test projects 03:49:19 <dmcbride> Please feel free to email me with any thoughts or ideas that you have 03:50:14 <kubi001> dmcbride: sure, I will email you after we had a discussion with our project members 03:50:31 <dmcbride> chigang: I think that you were on the main release call earlier in my day 03:50:45 <dmcbride> chigang: there was a lot of talk about CI instability 03:51:04 <dmcbride> chigang: are you seeing that with Compass? 03:51:17 <chigang> dmcbride: yes, It is hard to make baremetal deployment stable 03:51:45 <dmcbride> chigang: is that due to issues with OpenStack integration, or something else? 03:52:29 <chigang> dmcbride: virtual deployment is stable for compass, but for baremetal there are some issues for evironment 03:53:13 <chigang> dmcbride: such as networking connection, hareware 03:53:22 <dmcbride> #info chigang says that virtual deployment is stable, but there are issues with baremetal 03:53:46 <chigang> and there are some probabilistic problem for openstack 03:53:53 <dmcbride> team - feel free to #info your comments as you think is appropriate 03:54:01 <chigang> sure 03:54:44 <dmcbride> chigang: so you think that the issue is the hardware, rather than OpenStack or other software? 03:55:21 <chigang> dmcbride: no, there are still some issues OpenStack 03:56:15 <dmcbride> chigang: in the main release meeting, there were some comments about the v3 keystone API. Has that been an issue for your team? 03:56:39 <chigang> #info there are still some issues for OpenStack and ODL, especially in networking 03:57:32 <chigang> dmcbride: it is fine for Keystone API now, functest team did great work 03:57:49 <dmcbride> chigang: is that a learning issue, or simply bugs in OpenStack? 03:58:20 <chigang> dmcbride: smoke test has been enable for Compass patch verification 03:58:55 <dmcbride> chigang: good to know, thanks 03:59:25 <dmcbride> huzhj: we have not heard from you lately 03:59:46 <dmcbride> huzhj: what is the status of Daisy? 04:00:32 <huzhj> dmcbride: We are still working on solving bm/vm deployment issues 04:00:47 <dmcbride> #info chigang comments that smoke test has been enabled for Compass patch verification 04:01:29 <dmcbride> huzhj: I think that we should consider continuing your work under the E release. What do you think? 04:01:34 <huzhj> We have sent email to helpdesk to propose a new virtual pod 04:02:29 <huzhj> dmcbride: I am considering this and sorting out tasks remained for Danube in JIRA. 04:02:37 <huzhj> dmcbride: Team will has an internal discussion and the final decision will be made before this Friday. I will send you feedback after that. 04:03:13 <dmcbride> huzhj: I noticed that Escalator has a new PTL. However, I have not had any communication with him. 04:03:51 <dmcbride> huzhj: given their dependence on Daisy, I believe that they will also need to consider deferring to the E release. 04:04:20 <dmcbride> huzhj: Thank you for your consideration. Please let me know your thoughts after you meet with your team. 04:04:59 <dmcbride> #topic Milestone 6 - test case implementation and preliminary documentation 04:05:11 <dmcbride> ok - let's talk a little about MS6 04:05:24 <huzhj> dmcbride: I can reach the new PTL of Escalator and disscuss with him. 04:05:42 <dmcbride> huzhj: thank you, I appreciate that 04:06:23 <dmcbride> #info MS6 has two requirements 04:06:52 <dmcbride> #info requirement 1: implementation of test cases identified in MS2 04:07:44 <dmcbride> #info requirement 2: (NEW for Danube) directory structure and placeholder documents 04:08:18 <kubi001> dmcbride: Did the "test cases identified in MS2" came from new feature projects? 04:09:00 <dmcbride> kubi001: yes, this applies primarily to feature projects 04:09:26 <dmcbride> kubi001: however, test frameworks should be doing self-validation of some sort 04:09:29 <yuyang_gabriel> So new test cases could be add before MS6, right? 04:09:51 <kubi001> dmcbride: In yardstick, we planed some test cases from ETSI TST001 metric. How about those test case? 04:10:18 <dmcbride> yuyang_gabriel: do you mean test cases that were not documented in MS2? 04:10:30 <yuyang_gabriel> dmcbride yes 04:10:39 <dmcbride> kubi001: I should be familiar with that spec, but I am not 04:11:28 <dmcbride> yuyang_gabriel: yes, you should get those test cases documented in the test case database, assuming that you will be able to complete implementation of them by Feb 17 04:11:55 <yuyang_gabriel> dmcbride: Thanks! Will do! 04:12:27 <dmcbride> Sofia Wallin has published a documentation guide 04:12:35 <dmcbride> #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/DOC/Documentation+Guide 04:13:07 <dmcbride> this will give you some guidance in setting up your directory structure and creating placeholder documents 04:14:01 <dmcbride> the idea is to force most of the learning process for documentation earlier in the release, in order to reduce confusion and delay toward the end of the release, as we had with Colorado 04:14:39 <dmcbride> this is a new requirement for Danube, so I want to make sure that everyone understands what I'm talking about 04:17:28 <dmcbride> #info if you have questions about documentation, please contact Sofia directly. Also, there is a documentation working group meeting at 6 a.m. PST tomorrow. I believe that's 10 p.m. in Beijing. 04:18:15 <kubi001> got it. 04:18:46 <joehuang> Got it. David, sorry to let you konw that it's launch time here. 04:18:56 <fuqiao-laptop> got it 04:18:57 <dmcbride> #info Sofia Wallin email: sofia.wallin@ericsson.com 04:19:25 <dmcbride> ok guys - I will let you know 04:19:35 <dmcbride> let you "go" 04:19:46 <joehuang> thanks 04:19:47 <dmcbride> good first meeting 04:20:00 <huzhj> Thanks 04:20:02 <yuyang_gabriel> +1 04:20:02 <kubi001> :) 04:20:08 <dmcbride> please email me with questions, agenda ideas, etc. 04:20:23 <yuyang_gabriel> tks! 04:20:29 <fuqiao-laptop> thanks! 04:20:33 <dmcbride> I'm trying to make this meeting as useful as possible for YOU, so let me know what I can do to improve it 04:20:50 <dmcbride> #endmeeting